which console is worth buying? - Page 3

takwu · April 3rd, 2002

I don't know for sure, but from my experience an emulator that only runs demos is around... 2% done, maybe.

edit:
ohhh... :rofl:
that batard must've thought the PS2 demos are like the computer game demos. Very different things indeed.

Syed Fawad · April 3rd, 2002

There should be some sorta test for those who sign up.PS2 emu 75% now! he must be from future then.

Ninjaa · April 3rd, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by sonicfoot
which console is worth buying?:confused:
i really love arcade games like marvel vs capcom 2, street fighter alpha 3 etc. but the dreamcast is now discontinued, and i dont want a console that wont last a long time.

If you loved the Dreamcast, I would reccomend the GameCube. It is the spiritual successor to the Dreamcast. Sega is putting a lot of their best titles into it. You also mentioned a love for Capcom arcade games. Since Nintendo and Capcom are VERY close right now, I would say that it would be stupid to get any other console right now. Nintendo has most of the games that you would like to play I'm sure.

I know that a lot of people here are saying to get the PS2, but you also said that you wanted a console that would last a long time. I don't think that a PS2 would be a good choice for that reason. Now is a good time to get a GameCube. The first killer games will be released this year. I think that the PS2 has been wholly dissapointing so far. It has been out for nearly 2 years, and only has a handful of good games. Not to mention that it is already being overshadowed by the PS3. Sony is indeed shortening the lifecycle of the PS2 in order to get the PS3 out the door. The reason? Nintendo and Microsoft's consoles are too far advanced in comparison to the PS2, and Sony needs to stay competitive.

You might think that the Xbox would be good too, but I really don't think that it wold be a good buy. It is on very unfirm ground right now. It is only selling reasonably in North America, since it essentially died in Japan. There is a strong possibility that it will be the next 3DO.

**Kane** · April 3rd, 2002

My brother, Tank, has picked up an Gamecube. I'll tell y'all what it's like when I go back to uni. If it is really good, and I see games that I like on the horizon, I might consider getting one to sit next to/ on top of my PS2.

ghettochild69 · April 3rd, 2002

yeah

ghettochild69 · April 3rd, 2002

I think PS2 is best and the emulation should be coming around the way in less than a year. How is GameCube. i heard its pretty good

Ninjaa · April 5th, 2002

It is far from even that close. A PC that will run it won't be out for a few more years at least. Expect a PS2 emulator capable of playing a few commercial games in about 2 years. Expect a GOOD PS2 emulator in about 3 or 4 years.

If you want to know how the GameCube is, then read my post, which was posted two posts before the first of yours.

Also, the edit button is here so you can click on it, not just for show.

Syed Fawad · April 6th, 2002

Gamecube is good (but you are also gonna get a cheap DVD player)

zerocopy · April 6th, 2002

Commercial gamecube's dont have a dvd player, although you can buy the customized edition made by panasonic which has a dvd player but bear in mind, it's more expensive ..

Syed Fawad · April 7th, 2002

I made a mistake there. I meant that if you buy a PS2 you'll get a DVD player for free. Same goes for XBOX but XBOX has other issues so I won't advise you to buy XBOX. Gamecube is a moderate console, well balanced b/w XBOX and PS2 (when we talk games it goes HTH with PS2 and when it comes to hardware it goes HTH with XBOX) but you are not going to get a DVD player though.
I would have bought a gamecube but I bought PS2 cos of its present games (MGS2, GT3, GTA3, SD JBI) and the availability of its games in my country. Gamecube has no future in my country.

Ninjaa · April 7th, 2002

I am constantly astounded by how many CARE about a DVD player on your console. I have absolutely NO desire to play a DVD in my console. It's not like you are getting a high end DVD player when you buy an XBox or a PS2. In fact, the DVD playback is subpar. I buy a console to play games, and that's why I bought a GameCube. The PS2 does have some good games at the moment, I will give it that. However, I see no future in the PS2, which is why I bought a GameCube. I can easily name off 10 games coming for GameCube in the near future which I am very enthused about. I can name about 3 games for PS2 that I want at the moment, and about 2 in the future. There's just no competition there.

RhombusYSS · April 7th, 2002

Hell yeah I care... I wish I could afford to buy a console AND a dvd drive... haha, unfortunately I can't afford either - hence I have no new consoles (most recent console I own is a PSX) and only a CD Rom drive... not even a burner.

BUT! in the hypothetical and completely unfathomable case where I DID have money, I might as well buy one thing that can do both... and even if it's a crappy DVD player, in the event that I had a ps2, it would be hooked to the TV in the living room for me and my roommates to share and bask in the DVD goodness... But let's get back to reality, um... shall we...

**Kane** · April 7th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Syed Fawad
I made a mistake there. I meant that if you buy a PS2 you'll get a DVD player for free. Same goes for XBOX but XBOX has other issues so I won't advise you to buy XBOX. Gamecube is a moderate console, well balanced b/w XBOX and PS2 (when we talk games it goes HTH with PS2 and when it comes to hardware it goes HTH with XBOX) but you are not going to get a DVD player though.
I would have bought a gamecube but I bought PS2 cos of its present games (MGS2, GT3, GTA3, SD JBI) and the availability of its games in my country. Gamecube has no future in my country.

X-Box users have to pay a further £30 or so you a remote (what a joke)
I'm not fussed about consoles playing DVDs: My PC plays them much better in Dolby 5.1 Thank you very much. I'd have liked it if I had the option to purchase a version of the PS2 without DVD playback taht would cost $50 less.

Syed Fawad · April 7th, 2002

What if you don't have a DVD rom? Are you gonna buy it just for movies? Watch it on a 17" monitor?
How about a PS2?

**Kane** · April 7th, 2002

The PS2 DVD quality is laughable. The dialog doesn't seem to stay in sync with the picture, the picture quality is poorer than the cinemaster soft player was on my old K6-2 350 w/ Voodoo 3, and the most annoying is that it can't change from anything but 16:9 ratio: It has no letterbox or Pan/Scan options.
Some of us also have bigger monitors than TVs (Myself being an example. 19" TV, 22" monitor).
I would rather have had the option of buying a PS2 without DVD playback than have that.

zerocopy · April 7th, 2002

I'd rather opt for having the the built-in dvd if im gonna pay the same price for a ps2..

Ninjaa · April 7th, 2002

But that's the thing. You ARE paying for the DVD capabilities on the PS2. A PS2 costs $100 more than a GameCube. You can EASILY get a DVD-Rom for that much. If you have a decent TV, you can get a cheap DVD player for $100 that can FAR outperform a PS2's DVD playback. I just see no reason for playing DVDs on a console.

**Ryos** · April 7th, 2002

If the DVD playback was good (and the PS2's is not by any means), it would be fine to make it a mandatory charge. Thinking that a PS2 is an adequate replacement for a REAL DVD player (whether it's a standalone unit or a DVD-ROM drive) is not a good idea. Superior DVD drives are cheaper every day, and that isn't a good reason to go for a PS2 (heck, if you're going to use reasoning like that, the Xbox would likely be a better choice).

zerocopy · April 7th, 2002

But still, if you want a better investment go for the ps2 . I dont think ppl will shell out their money for a ps2 solely for the purpose of playing dvd movies. Game wise the ps2 has a better future than the gamecube and x-box combined

Ninjaa · April 7th, 2002

Now that is something that I will disagree with. Most games coming for the PS2 will be ported to other systems, such as the GameCube. However, Nintendo has AWESOME 1st and 2nd party support for their system. Only on GameCube can you find a lot of the most popular games. Keep in mind that Nintendo and Rare almost singlehandedly kept the N64 alive. It is a very different story with the GameCube. GameCube has MASSIVE 3rd party support. I am predicting that most games made for PS2 will still be ported to GameCube on general principles. The trend is definately starting to show itself, now that GameCube is starting to make itself known.

I just hope that everyone agrees that the Xbox has no future. Hell, even Age of Empires is being ported to PS2. (That just blows my mind. Who would want to play it on a console in the first place?)

April 3rd, 2002	#41 (permalink)
takwu previous extinction Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 1,855	I don't know for sure, but from my experience an emulator that only runs demos is around... 2% done, maybe. edit: ohhh... :rofl: that batard must've thought the PS2 demos are like the computer game demos. Very different things indeed. __________________ Latest toy: Sharp LCD TV Monitor LL-M17W1U

April 3rd, 2002	#42 (permalink)
Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,261	There should be some sorta test for those who sign up.PS2 emu 75% now! he must be from future then. __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

April 3rd, 2002	#44 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	My brother, Tank, has picked up an Gamecube. I'll tell y'all what it's like when I go back to uni. If it is really good, and I see games that I like on the horizon, I might consider getting one to sit next to/ on top of my PS2. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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ghettochild69 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dell computer with leather chair Posts: 11	yeah __________________ *PC CONFIG IS ON PROFILE*

April 3rd, 2002	#46 (permalink)
ghettochild69 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Dell computer with leather chair Posts: 11	I think PS2 is best and the emulation should be coming around the way in less than a year. How is GameCube. i heard its pretty good __________________ *PC CONFIG IS ON PROFILE*

April 5th, 2002	#47 (permalink)
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 0	It is far from even that close. A PC that will run it won't be out for a few more years at least. Expect a PS2 emulator capable of playing a few commercial games in about 2 years. Expect a GOOD PS2 emulator in about 3 or 4 years. If you want to know how the GameCube is, then read my post, which was posted two posts before the first of yours. Also, the edit button is here so you can click on it, not just for show.

April 6th, 2002	#48 (permalink)
Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,261	Gamecube is good (but you are also gonna get a cheap DVD player) __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

April 6th, 2002	#49 (permalink)
zerocopy Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,953	Commercial gamecube's dont have a dvd player, although you can buy the customized edition made by panasonic which has a dvd player but bear in mind, it's more expensive ..

April 7th, 2002	#50 (permalink)
Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,261	I made a mistake there. I meant that if you buy a PS2 you'll get a DVD player for free. Same goes for XBOX but XBOX has other issues so I won't advise you to buy XBOX. Gamecube is a moderate console, well balanced b/w XBOX and PS2 (when we talk games it goes HTH with PS2 and when it comes to hardware it goes HTH with XBOX) but you are not going to get a DVD player though. I would have bought a gamecube but I bought PS2 cos of its present games (MGS2, GT3, GTA3, SD JBI) and the availability of its games in my country. Gamecube has no future in my country. __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

April 7th, 2002	#51 (permalink)
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 0	I am constantly astounded by how many CARE about a DVD player on your console. I have absolutely NO desire to play a DVD in my console. It's not like you are getting a high end DVD player when you buy an XBox or a PS2. In fact, the DVD playback is subpar. I buy a console to play games, and that's why I bought a GameCube. The PS2 does have some good games at the moment, I will give it that. However, I see no future in the PS2, which is why I bought a GameCube. I can easily name off 10 games coming for GameCube in the near future which I am very enthused about. I can name about 3 games for PS2 that I want at the moment, and about 2 in the future. There's just no competition there.

April 7th, 2002	#52 (permalink)
RhombusYSS -=NJ Nets NBA Champs 2k2= Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 384	Hell yeah I care... I wish I could afford to buy a console AND a dvd drive... haha, unfortunately I can't afford either - hence I have no new consoles (most recent console I own is a PSX) and only a CD Rom drive... not even a burner. BUT! in the hypothetical and completely unfathomable case where I DID have money, I might as well buy one thing that can do both... and even if it's a crappy DVD player, in the event that I had a ps2, it would be hooked to the TV in the living room for me and my roommates to share and bask in the DVD goodness... But let's get back to reality, um... shall we... __________________ "Nuh hee ga hip-hop eul ah neu nyah?" Long live the NJ Nets!! Next target: Baron Davis and the Hornets Tsuyokereba ikiru, yowakereba shinu. Sorya kono jinsei no ichiban taisetsu na shinjitsu...jaa, so****e, ikura jinrui no inochi ga kouka ka misete kure! Windows XP Pro, Athlon 1.5 Ghz, 512 MB DDR RAM, ASUS 6800 Deluxe GeForce 32MB DDR, SB Audigy Gamer

April 7th, 2002	#54 (permalink)
Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,261	What if you don't have a DVD rom? Are you gonna buy it just for movies? Watch it on a 17" monitor? How about a PS2? __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

April 7th, 2002	#55 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	The PS2 DVD quality is laughable. The dialog doesn't seem to stay in sync with the picture, the picture quality is poorer than the cinemaster soft player was on my old K6-2 350 w/ Voodoo 3, and the most annoying is that it can't change from anything but 16:9 ratio: It has no letterbox or Pan/Scan options. Some of us also have bigger monitors than TVs (Myself being an example. 19" TV, 22" monitor). I would rather have had the option of buying a PS2 without DVD playback than have that. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

April 7th, 2002	#56 (permalink)
zerocopy Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,953	I'd rather opt for having the the built-in dvd if im gonna pay the same price for a ps2..

April 7th, 2002	#57 (permalink)
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 0	But that's the thing. You ARE paying for the DVD capabilities on the PS2. A PS2 costs $100 more than a GameCube. You can EASILY get a DVD-Rom for that much. If you have a decent TV, you can get a cheap DVD player for $100 that can FAR outperform a PS2's DVD playback. I just see no reason for playing DVDs on a console.

April 7th, 2002	#58 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	If the DVD playback was good (and the PS2's is not by any means), it would be fine to make it a mandatory charge. Thinking that a PS2 is an adequate replacement for a REAL DVD player (whether it's a standalone unit or a DVD-ROM drive) is not a good idea. Superior DVD drives are cheaper every day, and that isn't a good reason to go for a PS2 (heck, if you're going to use reasoning like that, the Xbox would likely be a better choice). __________________ Sanity is overrated.

April 7th, 2002	#59 (permalink)
zerocopy Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,953	But still, if you want a better investment go for the ps2 . I dont think ppl will shell out their money for a ps2 solely for the purpose of playing dvd movies. Game wise the ps2 has a better future than the gamecube and x-box combined

April 7th, 2002	#60 (permalink)
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 0	Now that is something that I will disagree with. Most games coming for the PS2 will be ported to other systems, such as the GameCube. However, Nintendo has AWESOME 1st and 2nd party support for their system. Only on GameCube can you find a lot of the most popular games. Keep in mind that Nintendo and Rare almost singlehandedly kept the N64 alive. It is a very different story with the GameCube. GameCube has MASSIVE 3rd party support. I am predicting that most games made for PS2 will still be ported to GameCube on general principles. The trend is definately starting to show itself, now that GameCube is starting to make itself known. I just hope that everyone agrees that the Xbox has no future. Hell, even Age of Empires is being ported to PS2. (That just blows my mind. Who would want to play it on a console in the first place?)

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