Do we really need a PS2 emu?

**Raziel** · November 24th, 2001

I don't think we need one.
Think about this: why do we love PS1 emus?
Because it enhances the graphics of games,I don't see any other reason(except from the fact that everyone doesn't have a PS2).
Now,about the PS2,does the graphics really need to be enhanced?
I don't think so.
But why does everyone wants a PS2 emu then? Maybe because they just want it to be emulated,but the only point in emulating the PS2 is for people who don't own one.
I have a PS2 and games on it looks much better than any of my PC games,OK,maybe it would look a bit better in high resolutions,but not something that is worth the hardwork of an emu team,I personnaly think that emu authors shouldn't even waste their time with PS2 emulation(and even GameCube).

P.S.:If someone could emulate Xbox really soon,it would be cool,that would make M$ fail

**Ryos** · November 24th, 2001

We don't "need" any emulators. Most people want a PS2 emulator because they decided to get one of the other systems or something. I personally want one because I just like being able to play any system on one unit. Not having to move ten consoles to play one system has its advantages. From what I've seen, PS2 games could be improved slightly on the PC, although I'm not as sure about the GC and Xbox. Besides, when has it been about enhancing the game? Many people use VGS despite the fact it's an inferior copy of the PSX.

While I'm at it, I'll move this to misc console discussion because that's closer to where it should be (at least for now).

**PsYcHoJaK** · November 24th, 2001

This is not true Raziel. Saying that we don't need a ps2 emulator is the same as denying the progress on the technological area.

**Prafull** · November 24th, 2001

In my opinion we surely do need a ps2 emulator as well as dc emulator (I want to play shenmue and mgs -2 on my pc after all).

FireGL · November 24th, 2001

its a must coz i'm a lousy gamer that really needs save state

**Shiori** · November 24th, 2001

It'll be cheaper to buy a DC now rather than waiting for an emu.

FireGL · November 24th, 2001

Quote:

It'll be cheaper to buy a DC now rather than waiting for an emu.

how much is a dc in our country
i seen some dc same price as psx bundled w/ 10 cd's
for only 6,000 php but i dont know if thats brand new

**Betamax** · November 24th, 2001

Well in my case I never actually bought a console (the only one I ever got was a broken psx that a mate threw out that I managed to fix) . Hence I like the fact that emus enable me to experience these games. I don't NEED it as such, but if there is one in existance I'll definately USE it. Besides when the psx came out the (95?) the best pc games graphically were much worse than psx ones. Basically wait and see what happens.

Nightmare · November 24th, 2001

I vote yes.

alencious · November 24th, 2001

Raziel,
I agree that we dont need a ps2 emulator part, but in the view of a MS basher, I dont agree on the xbox emulator part. I dont own a PS so I never buy any PS game before I found epsxe and now I have more PS games than PC games. Microsoft actually sell xbox at lost so if there is any xbox emulator, I bet that Bill Gate will be very happy with that, atleast he dont have to lost so much money on the hardware part and yet receiving income from the software part. Sony hate emulation because that will kind of encourage people to ask for port from PS to PC. Xbox at it current stage is not a market leader so anything that will help MS to get more market share will be welcome there.

**Betamax** · November 24th, 2001

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Originally posted by alencious

Microsoft actually sell xbox at lost so if there is any xbox emulator, I bet that Bill Gate will be very happy with that, atleast he dont have to lost so much money on the hardware part and yet receiving income from the software part.

I disagree. If old Bill is going to be so happy that windows based pcs can run x-box games he certainly wouldn't have encrypted the disks... making sure that they couldn't be read on pcs.

What he would have done is released a cheap cut down console that ran windows games. That way you wouldn't even need an emulator.

Zell · November 24th, 2001

Well as far as The PS2 emu , yes , the time will come !

ebola · November 24th, 2001

A PS2 emulator would be cool but people should wait until PS3 comes out before they release a PS2 emulator. Also I want all of the good emu minds working on ps1 right now since I have a ton of ps1 games and my ps1 console is on the brink of death.

alencious · November 25th, 2001

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Originally posted by Betamax

I disagree. If old Bill is going to be so happy that windows based pcs can run x-box games he certainly wouldn't have encrypted the disks... making sure that they couldn't be read on pcs.

What he would have done is released a cheap cut down console that ran windows games. That way you wouldn't even need an emulator.

He wouldnt be too happy with the emulator once he got 90% market share and everyone have to make game for xbox, but at this time, a little bit help.

**Shadow Lady** · November 25th, 2001

why not we better concentrate in perfection of the PSX emus?

BaD_BURN · November 26th, 2001

Here's an idea: if only Sony would cooperate with would-be PS2 emu authors, throw in a little funding on software development and sh1t like that. Think about it: if there was a Sony-licensed PS2 emu for the PC, then the game developers wouldn't have to bother with porting their PS2 games to the PC.

**Ryos** · November 26th, 2001

Sony funding an emulator when it spent so much killing two? That'd make a lot of sense...

JuniorCRB · November 26th, 2001

i think first gen ps2 games could benefit from some anti-stentlizing (sorry i have no clue how to spell it)

BaD_BURN · November 26th, 2001

Do you think some ppl at Sony use VGS/ePSXe/other PSX emus?

**Ryos** · November 26th, 2001

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Originally posted by BaD_BURN
Do you think some ppl at Sony use VGS/ePSXe/other PSX emus?

I'd assume so, but that doesn't mean they publically admit such behavior.

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November 24th, 2001	#1 (permalink)
Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,145	Do we really need a PS2 emu? I don't think we need one. Think about this: why do we love PS1 emus? Because it enhances the graphics of games,I don't see any other reason(except from the fact that everyone doesn't have a PS2). Now,about the PS2,does the graphics really need to be enhanced? I don't think so. But why does everyone wants a PS2 emu then? Maybe because they just want it to be emulated,but the only point in emulating the PS2 is for people who don't own one. I have a PS2 and games on it looks much better than any of my PC games,OK,maybe it would look a bit better in high resolutions,but not something that is worth the hardwork of an emu team,I personnaly think that emu authors shouldn't even waste their time with PS2 emulation(and even GameCube). P.S.:If someone could emulate Xbox really soon,it would be cool,that would make M$ fail __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 @3.5GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400 Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS

November 24th, 2001	#2 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	We don't "need" any emulators. Most people want a PS2 emulator because they decided to get one of the other systems or something. I personally want one because I just like being able to play any system on one unit. Not having to move ten consoles to play one system has its advantages. From what I've seen, PS2 games could be improved slightly on the PC, although I'm not as sure about the GC and Xbox. Besides, when has it been about enhancing the game? Many people use VGS despite the fact it's an inferior copy of the PSX. While I'm at it, I'll move this to misc console discussion because that's closer to where it should be (at least for now). __________________ Sanity is overrated. Last edited by Ryos; November 24th, 2001 at 12:48.

November 24th, 2001	#4 (permalink)
Prafull Administrator, PCSX2 tester Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: India Posts: 637	In my opinion we surely do need a ps2 emulator as well as dc emulator (I want to play shenmue and mgs -2 on my pc after all). __________________ E6750, Abit ip35E, XFX 8600GT 256 MB DDR3, Transcend 2GB DDR2 800 RAM

November 24th, 2001	#5 (permalink)
FireGL I'm? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: ======> Posts: 1,842	its a must coz i'm a lousy gamer that really needs save state __________________ Open your eyes and look within... Are you satisfied with the life your livin'?

November 24th, 2001	#3 (permalink)
PsYcHoJaK Emu author Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Greece - Athens Posts: 132	This is not true Raziel. Saying that we don't need a ps2 emulator is the same as denying the progress on the technological area.

November 24th, 2001	#6 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	It'll be cheaper to buy a DC now rather than waiting for an emu. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

November 24th, 2001	#8 (permalink)
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,480	Well in my case I never actually bought a console (the only one I ever got was a broken psx that a mate threw out that I managed to fix) . Hence I like the fact that emus enable me to experience these games. I don't NEED it as such, but if there is one in existance I'll definately USE it. Besides when the psx came out the (95?) the best pc games graphically were much worse than psx ones. Basically wait and see what happens. __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product.

November 24th, 2001	#9 (permalink)
Nightmare ... Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 1,234	I vote yes.

November 24th, 2001	#10 (permalink)
alencious Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 52	Raziel, I agree that we dont need a ps2 emulator part, but in the view of a MS basher, I dont agree on the xbox emulator part. I dont own a PS so I never buy any PS game before I found epsxe and now I have more PS games than PC games. Microsoft actually sell xbox at lost so if there is any xbox emulator, I bet that Bill Gate will be very happy with that, atleast he dont have to lost so much money on the hardware part and yet receiving income from the software part. Sony hate emulation because that will kind of encourage people to ask for port from PS to PC. Xbox at it current stage is not a market leader so anything that will help MS to get more market share will be welcome there.

November 24th, 2001	#12 (permalink)
Zell The Sword Saint Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Death Zone Posts: 1,750	Well as far as The PS2 emu , yes , the time will come ! __________________ Kuzuryusen ! God-like speed to attack all nine vital points in one stroke. Impossible to dodge and defend ! How want's to stop me E-Mail

November 24th, 2001	#13 (permalink)
ebola Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chanhassen, MN Posts: 900	A PS2 emulator would be cool but people should wait until PS3 comes out before they release a PS2 emulator. Also I want all of the good emu minds working on ps1 right now since I have a ton of ps1 games and my ps1 console is on the brink of death.

November 25th, 2001	#15 (permalink)
Shadow Lady Advanced Newbie Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Bogotá... not that it matters... Posts: 4,727	why not we better concentrate in perfection of the PSX emus? __________________ Main Rig: Pentium Dual-Core E2160 @ 2.3GHz -- 7600GT @ 650/800MHz -- 1GB DDR2-667 4-4-4-12 -- Windows XP Pro SP2 Collecting dust: AMD Athlon XP 2600+ -- ATI Radeon 9500 Pro -- SB Live 5.1 Digital -- 2.5GB DDR 2-2-2-5 Ram -- Windows 2003 server r2 SP1

November 26th, 2001	#16 (permalink)
BaD_BURN In limbo Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Cave dweller Posts: 914	Here's an idea: if only Sony would cooperate with would-be PS2 emu authors, throw in a little funding on software development and sh1t like that. Think about it: if there was a Sony-licensed PS2 emu for the PC, then the game developers wouldn't have to bother with porting their PS2 games to the PC.

November 26th, 2001	#17 (permalink)
Ryos Revenger of Vengeance Join Date: May 2001 Location: Nowhere Posts: 11,250	Sony funding an emulator when it spent so much killing two? That'd make a lot of sense... __________________ Sanity is overrated.

November 26th, 2001	#18 (permalink)
JuniorCRB Sega Fanboy Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: I don't know Posts: 757	i think first gen ps2 games could benefit from some anti-stentlizing (sorry i have no clue how to spell it)

November 26th, 2001	#19 (permalink)
BaD_BURN In limbo Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Cave dweller Posts: 914	Do you think some ppl at Sony use VGS/ePSXe/other PSX emus?

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