More about PHANTOM

REi_FoX · January 10th, 2004

The announcement of the development of the Phantom games console was one of the most debated stories of 2003, with industry experts describing it in a variety of ways. Some suggested the console was vaporware, or an elaborate hoax, while others praised the proposed economic model but doubted that the company could last long enough to see profitability.

The debate is about to reach its climax, as Infinium Labs, the console's creators, are about to demonstrate the Phantom Gaming Service and silence the voices of those who doubt its existence.

Infinium Labs announced today that its Phantom Gaming Service will be unveiled to the public January 8-11 at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Nevada.

We’re very excited to be showing the Phantom Gaming Service for the first time at North America's largest tradeshow, said Timothy M. Roberts, CEO of Infinium Labs. This show gives us the unique opportunity to present the Phantom firsthand to both consumers and industry insiders.

The Phantom Gaming Service will be a featured product at the Microsoft Windows Embedded Device Showcase exhibit in the Las Vegas Convention Center. Infinium Labs is licensed by Microsoft Licensing, GP to use Windows XP Embedded for operating system components of the Phantom Gaming Service.

The Phantom Gaming Service also will be featured in a hospitality suite on the 7th floor of an office building at 101 Convention Center Drive, just half a block from the Las Vegas Convention Center, and at a penthouse suite at the Palms Casino Hotel.

CES attendees can catch a glimpse of the Phantom at a special gaming session, SS2 Next–Generation Gaming Console, from 11:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. on Thursday, Jan. 8, at the LVCC North Hall N254. Robert Shambro, Executive Vice President of Strategy and Co-founder of Infinium Labs, will be a panel participant.

The Phantom Game Service is a next-generation gaming system that supports games on-demand, game rentals, game demos, seamless upgrades and patch management. At launch, the Phantom will be the fastest, most powerful gaming system on the market and will include a broad selection of pre-loaded games, on-demand games and game rentals.

The Phantom Gaming Service is an always-on broadband device, which will allow gamers a wealth of options, from wireless connectivity to massive multiplayer capabilities, allowing gamers to demo games before purchasing or subscribing. For a better look at the rear panel of the Phantom and its connectors follow the screens tab above.

From www.megagames.com

This is really gonna be expensive... cause your going to buy the game online!!! i wonder how big is the HDD of this console... and where would you store your ols games after playing it...

Xinu0 · January 10th, 2004

The HD better be like 200gig at least. Imagine, buying games tnd then the connsole telling you to delete some to buy more. Sheesh. I wonder though if they have the game support and the money to push the console onto a "big 5" type of console market. I mean microsoft could afford to advertise it enough to mak people want to buy, and they got lucky on a few games which brought in major thirdparty support. Can Infinium really do this?

Valcrist · January 10th, 2004

When you purchas a game you can re-download it, I read about this console a few months ago. I think it will be a flop, like the jaguar, too advanced for its time, but I think this is the future of consoles. And I don't think the HDD is that big, just enough to install the game. You can install a few games, but ultimatley you will have to delelte some. When you buy the game your account documents it so if you decide you want to play the game you just have to re install it.

Takmadeus · January 10th, 2004

I agree with Valcrist...... you have to notice as well that this is a broadband device, so they'll miss a very big market on thse countries where broadband or better is impossible to attain (like Latin America).... yeah, it is too advanced for our time...

REi_FoX · January 10th, 2004

yeah here too... but this would really stop piracy...

Rosemon · January 11th, 2004

Hahaha! Stop piracy? Oh, that's a good one. I'll have to show that to they guys in #edgeemu.

Takmadeus · January 11th, 2004

of course it would he pirateable via hacking in the phantom servers (to make them think I've already paid for the games and that i can download them)

see?..... it is not that advanced... I already suggested a way in which piracy would be possible

Quatro · January 11th, 2004

> yeah here too... but this would really stop piracy...

I totally disagree rei... anything can be pirated, you know that because where we life is already a proof of it

but it is still possible for some hackers and pirateer to do this, when Microsoft said that WinXP is totally hackproof, they ate their own words...

Takmadeus · January 11th, 2004

Just read my previous post and you'll see the Phantom is not pirateable...... actually it is even more pirateable than any other console

... it will be easy for it to turn into another Diablo II closed server (before the rust storm, that is

)

RF · January 11th, 2004

Well, if you have to delete a game, then re-download it some time later; that would be a huge download for a broadband connection. They better have some damn good servers that can push 200kb/s at least, all the time.

REi_FoX · January 11th, 2004

yeah downloading the game all ove again if you want to play the previous game you have finished... and how about fighting games (if ever...) of course you just cant delete that... then re download it again... this console is gonna be really EXPENSIVE

Rosemon · January 11th, 2004

Another way I can think to pirate on the Phantom would be to get a game using one Phantom, find a way to dump the info (shouldn't be too hard, the Phantom is supposed to be as similar to a PC as the Xbox is) and get that from the PC onto another Phantom.

Infinium Labs can use whatever protection they want, but this will be possible pretty quickly.

REi_FoX · January 11th, 2004

copying the game from a phantom console to the PC then to another phantom console

since its functioning like a PC maybe making a simple software that skips the protection and piracy wins again...

Valcrist · January 11th, 2004

I think I remember reading somewhere that it can run PC games...I'll have to see if I can find that again, I may be wrong.

Xinu0 · January 11th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Valcrist

I think I remember reading somewhere that it can run PC games...I'll have to see if I can find that again, I may be wrong.

I think that was a different "new" console...

harsher · January 11th, 2004

i saw some posting says that the HDD is 320GB.

**Chrono Archangel** · January 11th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reichfuher

Well, if you have to delete a game, then re-download it some time later; that would be a huge download for a broadband connection. They better have some damn good servers that can push 200kb/s at least, all the time.

what happens too good fellows like me who has a download limit of 15gb per month. I cant be spending my time downloading 2-5 gb of data all the time...

Xinu0 · January 11th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrono Archange

what happens too good fellows like me who has a download limit of 15gb per month. I cant be spending my time downloading 2-5 gb of data all the time...

So, you see that Infinium has really thought this console thing out...

madmonkeyboy · January 12th, 2004

if this thing is going to be unveiled any day now, why are they still using a 3D image?
unless they are looking for a few more "investors"!!
an actual photo of the thing would have me and a few others a bit more convinced.
but you never know i could be proved wrong, right after sony drop the price of a PS2 to 10p!

REi_FoX · January 12th, 2004

but one thing more even you store the game on your PCs HDD the phantom console is required to be connected all the time when your playing... they can easily attach an individual serial key in their games so that it COULD stall piracy for abit... (like in the Gamecube... smaller CD)

January 10th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,648	More about PHANTOM The announcement of the development of the Phantom games console was one of the most debated stories of 2003, with industry experts describing it in a variety of ways. Some suggested the console was vaporware, or an elaborate hoax, while others praised the proposed economic model but doubted that the company could last long enough to see profitability. The debate is about to reach its climax, as Infinium Labs, the console's creators, are about to demonstrate the Phantom Gaming Service and silence the voices of those who doubt its existence. Infinium Labs announced today that its Phantom Gaming Service will be unveiled to the public January 8-11 at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Nevada. We’re very excited to be showing the Phantom Gaming Service for the first time at North America's largest tradeshow, said Timothy M. Roberts, CEO of Infinium Labs. This show gives us the unique opportunity to present the Phantom firsthand to both consumers and industry insiders. The Phantom Gaming Service will be a featured product at the Microsoft Windows Embedded Device Showcase exhibit in the Las Vegas Convention Center. Infinium Labs is licensed by Microsoft Licensing, GP to use Windows XP Embedded for operating system components of the Phantom Gaming Service. The Phantom Gaming Service also will be featured in a hospitality suite on the 7th floor of an office building at 101 Convention Center Drive, just half a block from the Las Vegas Convention Center, and at a penthouse suite at the Palms Casino Hotel. CES attendees can catch a glimpse of the Phantom at a special gaming session, SS2 Next–Generation Gaming Console, from 11:30 a.m. to 12:30 p.m. on Thursday, Jan. 8, at the LVCC North Hall N254. Robert Shambro, Executive Vice President of Strategy and Co-founder of Infinium Labs, will be a panel participant. The Phantom Game Service is a next-generation gaming system that supports games on-demand, game rentals, game demos, seamless upgrades and patch management. At launch, the Phantom will be the fastest, most powerful gaming system on the market and will include a broad selection of pre-loaded games, on-demand games and game rentals. The Phantom Gaming Service is an always-on broadband device, which will allow gamers a wealth of options, from wireless connectivity to massive multiplayer capabilities, allowing gamers to demo games before purchasing or subscribing. For a better look at the rear panel of the Phantom and its connectors follow the screens tab above. From www.megagames.com This is really gonna be expensive... cause your going to buy the game online!!! i wonder how big is the HDD of this console... and where would you store your ols games after playing it... __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

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Xinu0 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Folsom, California Posts: 948	The HD better be like 200gig at least. Imagine, buying games tnd then the connsole telling you to delete some to buy more. Sheesh. I wonder though if they have the game support and the money to push the console onto a "big 5" type of console market. I mean microsoft could afford to advertise it enough to mak people want to buy, and they got lucky on a few games which brought in major thirdparty support. Can Infinium really do this? __________________ blog AMD AtholonXP 2600+ 512mb DDR333 Kingston Soyo Dragon Lite mobo(KT400) ATI 9600XT @ 571.5/357.5 80GB WD 7200rpm 8mbcache 19-inch ViewSonic PS790 CRT DVD-ROM

January 10th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
Valcrist Resident Mac User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: (Hicksville Florida) Posts: 1,447	When you purchas a game you can re-download it, I read about this console a few months ago. I think it will be a flop, like the jaguar, too advanced for its time, but I think this is the future of consoles. And I don't think the HDD is that big, just enough to install the game. You can install a few games, but ultimatley you will have to delelte some. When you buy the game your account documents it so if you decide you want to play the game you just have to re install it. __________________ \| Athlon 64 3200+ \| ASUS 6600GT \| 1 GB Dual Channel \| 20 GB Windows XP \| 100 GB Ubuntu \| 120 GB Storage \| \|14" iBook G4 1.33Ghz\|512 MB\|Radeon 9200\|60GB OSX Tiger\| >--Visit my blog--< http://blog.efx2.com/user/Tim

January 10th, 2004	#4 (permalink)
Takmadeus The Legendary Journey Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In real life Posts: 4,040	I agree with Valcrist...... you have to notice as well that this is a broadband device, so they'll miss a very big market on thse countries where broadband or better is impossible to attain (like Latin America).... yeah, it is too advanced for our time... __________________ Made with the GIMP

January 10th, 2004	#5 (permalink)
REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,648	yeah here too... but this would really stop piracy... __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

January 11th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
Rosemon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 35	Hahaha! Stop piracy? Oh, that's a good one. I'll have to show that to they guys in #edgeemu.

January 11th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
Takmadeus The Legendary Journey Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In real life Posts: 4,040	of course it would he pirateable via hacking in the phantom servers (to make them think I've already paid for the games and that i can download them) see?..... it is not that advanced... I already suggested a way in which piracy would be possible __________________ Made with the GIMP

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Quatro c3rTifiEd V@mpIr3 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,295	> yeah here too... but this would really stop piracy... I totally disagree rei... anything can be pirated, you know that because where we life is already a proof of it but it is still possible for some hackers and pirateer to do this, when Microsoft said that WinXP is totally hackproof, they ate their own words... __________________ BE ONE OF US I JOIN THE WOLF CLAN - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

January 11th, 2004	#9 (permalink)
Takmadeus The Legendary Journey Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: In real life Posts: 4,040	Just read my previous post and you'll see the Phantom is not pirateable...... actually it is even more pirateable than any other console ... it will be easy for it to turn into another Diablo II closed server (before the rust storm, that is ) __________________ Made with the GIMP

January 11th, 2004	#10 (permalink)
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,583	Well, if you have to delete a game, then re-download it some time later; that would be a huge download for a broadband connection. They better have some damn good servers that can push 200kb/s at least, all the time. __________________

January 11th, 2004	#11 (permalink)
REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,648	yeah downloading the game all ove again if you want to play the previous game you have finished... and how about fighting games (if ever...) of course you just cant delete that... then re download it again... this console is gonna be really EXPENSIVE __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

January 11th, 2004	#12 (permalink)
Rosemon Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 35	Another way I can think to pirate on the Phantom would be to get a game using one Phantom, find a way to dump the info (shouldn't be too hard, the Phantom is supposed to be as similar to a PC as the Xbox is) and get that from the PC onto another Phantom. Infinium Labs can use whatever protection they want, but this will be possible pretty quickly.

January 11th, 2004	#13 (permalink)
REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,648	copying the game from a phantom console to the PC then to another phantom console since its functioning like a PC maybe making a simple software that skips the protection and piracy wins again... __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

January 11th, 2004	#14 (permalink)
Valcrist Resident Mac User Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: (Hicksville Florida) Posts: 1,447	I think I remember reading somewhere that it can run PC games...I'll have to see if I can find that again, I may be wrong. __________________ \| Athlon 64 3200+ \| ASUS 6600GT \| 1 GB Dual Channel \| 20 GB Windows XP \| 100 GB Ubuntu \| 120 GB Storage \| \|14" iBook G4 1.33Ghz\|512 MB\|Radeon 9200\|60GB OSX Tiger\| >--Visit my blog--< http://blog.efx2.com/user/Tim

January 11th, 2004	#16 (permalink)
harsher Registered User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 19	i saw some posting says that the HDD is 320GB. __________________ AMD AthlonXP 2000+ APACER 512MB PC2700 MSI Geforce 4 MX440SE, bios flashed to MX440 specs

January 12th, 2004	#19 (permalink)
madmonkeyboy Old Gitt!! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Ipswich, England Posts: 336	if this thing is going to be unveiled any day now, why are they still using a 3D image? unless they are looking for a few more "investors"!! an actual photo of the thing would have me and a few others a bit more convinced. but you never know i could be proved wrong, right after sony drop the price of a PS2 to 10p! __________________ sig removed, please refer to the new sig regulations next time

January 12th, 2004	#20 (permalink)
REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,648	but one thing more even you store the game on your PCs HDD the phantom console is required to be connected all the time when your playing... they can easily attach an individual serial key in their games so that it COULD stall piracy for abit... (like in the Gamecube... smaller CD) __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

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