Doom III on Xbox?

DoubleD_99 · August 18th, 2002

Game spot says that doom III will be on the Xbox. Does that mean that Doom III will not be 128bpp after all?

Rumors, rumors, rumors. I am betting Doom III will not have graphics desined for NV30 after all. If it is being made for the Xbox then Doom III will be made for GeForce 2 graphics.

F:shout:ck you xbox! I like shootem up games. :rockets:

But at the same time i have a GeForce two

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Syed Fawad · August 18th, 2002

If it is being made for the Xbox then Doom III will be made for GeForce 2 graphics.

GF2? or GF3?

IIRC I heard that there'll be some kind of backward compatibilty with GF2 cards as well but with removing some detail and special fx for the game.

I believe that DOOM3 is optimized for a GF3 and XBOX has a similar GPU. So it wasn't much of a surprise that this game will be on XBOX. But I think that the XBOX version won't look as good as the PC version. (PC with the recommended requirements)

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**Demigod** · August 18th, 2002

Nvidia has claimed the NV30 does 128 bpp capabilities (the Radeon 9700 does 96 bpp) but it'll still only output a max of 32 bit colors. We still haven't even reached 64 bit colors, nevermind 128 bit and even if the cards were able to output that much color current monitors cannot support more than 32 bit anyways.

The XBOX uses a modified GeForce 3 and uses pixel shaders.

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I believe that DOOM3 is optimized for a GF3 and XBOX has a similar GPU. So it wasn't much of a surprise that this game will be on XBOX. But I think that the XBOX version won't look as good as the PC version. (PC with the recommended requirements)

John Carmack has stated at Quakecon 2002 that the XBOX version will look just as good as the PC version.

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Cless · August 18th, 2002

well they used radeons at e3 and it will be on the xbox, won't work on the gc or ps2 so don't bother prayer for a port.

Syed Fawad · August 18th, 2002

I won't, 'cos I could care less about Doom3. I just don't like these games. FPS aren't my type. However, Deus Ex and HalfLif are exceptions.

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DoubleD_99 · August 18th, 2002

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Originally posted by Demigod79
We still haven't even reached 64 bit colors, nevermind 128 bit and even if the cards were able to output that much color current monitors cannot support more than 32 bit anyways.

Never thought about that. You are a god

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Syed Fawad · August 19th, 2002

He's Demigod BTW.

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Alias · August 21st, 2002

the xbox gpu has a nvidia chip that is actually more advanced than computer variant of a geforce 3 as it has two vertex shaders instead of one (like the geforce 4 Ti's do) so the xbox gpu is more than enough to run doom 3's visual flair. The problem may lie in the memory bandwidth and the processor, but remember that console systems run at 640*480 resolution max (not counting HDTV) so they won't have to work as hard as computers do to create the same visual experience. So to sum it up, the xbox version should look just as good as a pc version (with TV scanlines anyway). but wutever, i hate xbox... haha

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Ninjaa · August 21st, 2002

I just have to ask the question.

WHY?

Why would anyone want Doom III on Xbox?

**Demigod** · August 21st, 2002

Why wouldn't they? It's a relatively simple porting job and owners of the Xbox who don't have a powerful enough computer for Doom 3 can enjoy it in its full graphical glory on their consoles.

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Ninjaa · August 21st, 2002

bah. It's a PC game I tell ya! Then again, the Xbox is a PC without decent controls. Nevertheless, the Xbox is Directx based, and Doom III is OpenGL based, right? How's that going to work?

I HATE the Xbox.

Syed Fawad · August 21st, 2002

That's why they'll have to PORT DOOM3 on XBOX, not play on it

But I think that playing an FPS with a gamepad sucks and sux real hard. And playing with an XBOX controller ..............AHHH

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Alias · August 22nd, 2002

well, since xbox is basically a computer, aren't they making a mouse and keyboard for it?

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**OK-OK** · August 22nd, 2002

damn.. so if i want to play it then I'll have to buy a gefroce 3? stupid geforce 2...

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DoubleD_99 · August 22nd, 2002

NV30

i WANT NV30 badly!!! It is making me go crazy.

NV30 better be good and Doom III or I fukx them all to hell

:rockets:

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Syed Fawad · August 22nd, 2002

Still I don't get it. Just what is it SO good about Doom?

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**Demigod** · August 22nd, 2002

What's so special about Doom? To put it simply, Doom revolutionalized the PC gaming industry. When the first Doom came out there was nothing else like it and it blew everyone away. Everyone was playing 2D side-scrollers like Commander Keen, Duke Nukem and Halloween Harry at the time. The level of graphical sophistication, along with the fast, frantic gameplay, superb soundtrack, and multiplayer feature made it one of the best games of all time (I think the only Doom clone to ever top it was Duke Nukem 3D). Id Software's subsequent games (Quake 1, 2, 3) all featured cutting-edge engines and set the standards for all other games in terms of technology and graphics. As the leading developer of the game engines John Carmack has gained a huge following within the PC community. With Doom III Id Software's prepared yet again to set a new level of PC gaming. We've all seen the kind of games produced from the Q3A engine (Alice, RTCW, Jedi Knight II), just imagine what the next generation engine will bring. Id Software was the founding father of PC-based 3D gaming (kinda like 3dfx was the founding fathers of 3D acceleration) and they still continue to lead the industry in the field.

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TalkingANUS · August 22nd, 2002

Check out the screenshots if u still doubt Doom III

http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...highlight=doom

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Carnage · August 22nd, 2002

i still remember playing doom2 on my old pc

those days where the good days,anyway,i hope doom3 wont be a "only for ****box"release

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Hanamichi · August 22nd, 2002

It'll never be a XBox only game... Id software wouldnt do that I believe. Id has been creating breakthroughs for the gaming world on the pc and if they make Doom3 an XBox only game I'd lose all my respect for them. So will many others, I guess.

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August 18th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,260	If it is being made for the Xbox then Doom III will be made for GeForce 2 graphics. GF2? or GF3? IIRC I heard that there'll be some kind of backward compatibilty with GF2 cards as well but with removing some detail and special fx for the game. I believe that DOOM3 is optimized for a GF3 and XBOX has a similar GPU. So it wasn't much of a surprise that this game will be on XBOX. But I think that the XBOX version won't look as good as the PC version. (PC with the recommended requirements) __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

August 18th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
Cless Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,809	well they used radeons at e3 and it will be on the xbox, won't work on the gc or ps2 so don't bother prayer for a port.

August 18th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,260	I won't, 'cos I could care less about Doom3. I just don't like these games. FPS aren't my type. However, Deus Ex and HalfLif are exceptions. __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

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Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,260	He's Demigod BTW. __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

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Alias >_< Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: East Coast, USA Posts: 924	the xbox gpu has a nvidia chip that is actually more advanced than computer variant of a geforce 3 as it has two vertex shaders instead of one (like the geforce 4 Ti's do) so the xbox gpu is more than enough to run doom 3's visual flair. The problem may lie in the memory bandwidth and the processor, but remember that console systems run at 640*480 resolution max (not counting HDTV) so they won't have to work as hard as computers do to create the same visual experience. So to sum it up, the xbox version should look just as good as a pc version (with TV scanlines anyway). but wutever, i hate xbox... haha __________________ >_<

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Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	I just have to ask the question. WHY? Why would anyone want Doom III on Xbox?

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Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,871	Why wouldn't they? It's a relatively simple porting job and owners of the Xbox who don't have a powerful enough computer for Doom 3 can enjoy it in its full graphical glory on their consoles. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 8192 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 1 TB Seagate & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)

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Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 7,778	bah. It's a PC game I tell ya! Then again, the Xbox is a PC without decent controls. Nevertheless, the Xbox is Directx based, and Doom III is OpenGL based, right? How's that going to work? I HATE the Xbox.

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Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,260	That's why they'll have to PORT DOOM3 on XBOX, not play on it But I think that playing an FPS with a gamepad sucks and sux real hard. And playing with an XBOX controller ..............AHHH __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

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Alias >_< Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: East Coast, USA Posts: 924	well, since xbox is basically a computer, aren't they making a mouse and keyboard for it? __________________ >_<

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OK-OK I'm back... Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,507	damn.. so if i want to play it then I'll have to buy a gefroce 3? stupid geforce 2... __________________ Don't let the beautiful eyes trick you before they eat you alive.

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DoubleD_99 Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Sacromento, CA, USA Posts: 96	NV30 i WANT NV30 badly!!! It is making me go crazy. NV30 better be good and Doom III or I fukx them all to hell :rockets: __________________ :wtf: My best friends

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Syed Fawad -PM to advertise here- Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: In an average country of an average planet of the solar system of an average star of an average galaxy of an average cluster. Still not average... Posts: 8,260	Still I don't get it. Just what is it SO good about Doom? __________________ Asus K8N (nForce3) AMD64 3000+ (754) 768MB DDR 400MHz (PC 3200) nVidia Geforce 6600GT 128MB (AGP) Aquamark3 - 53,000 "Good friends mustn't always be together. It is the feeling of oneness when distant that proves a lasting friendship"

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Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,871	What's so special about Doom? To put it simply, Doom revolutionalized the PC gaming industry. When the first Doom came out there was nothing else like it and it blew everyone away. Everyone was playing 2D side-scrollers like Commander Keen, Duke Nukem and Halloween Harry at the time. The level of graphical sophistication, along with the fast, frantic gameplay, superb soundtrack, and multiplayer feature made it one of the best games of all time (I think the only Doom clone to ever top it was Duke Nukem 3D). Id Software's subsequent games (Quake 1, 2, 3) all featured cutting-edge engines and set the standards for all other games in terms of technology and graphics. As the leading developer of the game engines John Carmack has gained a huge following within the PC community. With Doom III Id Software's prepared yet again to set a new level of PC gaming. We've all seen the kind of games produced from the Q3A engine (Alice, RTCW, Jedi Knight II), just imagine what the next generation engine will bring. Id Software was the founding father of PC-based 3D gaming (kinda like 3dfx was the founding fathers of 3D acceleration) and they still continue to lead the industry in the field. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 8192 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 1 TB Seagate & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) PSU: Nexus 1000 Watt OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Ultimate (64-bit)

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TalkingANUS talks a lot of $hit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NZ Posts: 741	Check out the screenshots if u still doubt Doom III http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...highlight=doom __________________ .:System Specs:. ::Core 2 Duo E6400 \| 1GB RAM \| Radeon X1950 Pro:: Why am I dying to live if I'm just living to die

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Carnage Illusion's play Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: In a world of lies Posts: 3,705	i still remember playing doom2 on my old pc those days where the good days,anyway,i hope doom3 wont be a "only for **box"release __________________ Member of the " Pessimists Club "** Visit my personal Doom project (music,not the game) at Lament Of Suffering

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Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,578	It'll never be a XBox only game... Id software wouldnt do that I believe. Id has been creating breakthroughs for the gaming world on the pc and if they make Doom3 an XBox only game I'd lose all my respect for them. So will many others, I guess.