Was the Sega CD an 8 bit system?

RZetlin · August 10th, 2002

Is the Sega CD an 8 bit system?

The graphics look so interior to the SNES.

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Mad · August 10th, 2002

was the Genesis 8 bit??
i just has a better processor than genesis i think, it kinda used both of them, and could do long cutscenes, they look great in lunar

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August 10th, 2002

it was 16-bit. the snes was simply able to produce more colours, but the genesis was faster;
a good example of this is Lethal Enforcers, a shooting game by konami. The snes version has much more colors but it misses a lot of animation, were the genesis had lack of colors, but was much smoother.

**fivefeet8** · August 10th, 2002

Both the SEga genesis and sega cd addon were 16bit.. The sega genesis and sega cd both had 68000 processors, but the 68000 in the sega cd ran at 12 mhz while the genesis 68000 cpu ran at 7 mhz.. The sega cd also had hardware sprite and plane rotation and scaling.. The genesis did rotation and scaling through software.. Sega cd could also display more colors onscreen than the genesis alone..

In comparison, the SNES cpu ran at 3.25 mhz..

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Xelcor · August 10th, 2002

Ah, I loved the SegaCD, it had some great games out for it, wished some of them had a remake, like Vay and all the other great rpgs that were on there that never had a chance to get a remake, glad the Lunar games did though.

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Einheri · August 10th, 2002

Inferior graphics??! You haven't played Phantasy Star 4 and Sonic series, have you?

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RZetlin · August 10th, 2002

I did my own research to find out why the Sega CD graphics looks so cr@ppy to the SNES:

Sega CD

CPU Speed: 12.7 MHz

COLOR
Maximum colors on one screen: 64
Total colors available: 512

RESOLUTION
Maximum screen resolution: 320 x 224

SPRITES
Maximum Sprites: 80
Maximum Sprite size: 32 x 32

SNES

CPU Speed: 1.79, 2.68 and 3.58 Mhz

COLOR
Maximum colors on one screen: 256
Total colors available: 32,678

RESOLUTION
Maximum screen resolution: 512x448

SPRITES
Maximum Sprites: 128
Maximum Sprite size: 64x64

As you can see the Sega CD had a better CPU speed, but the graphic capabilities are inferior to the SNES.

BTW, I got the info here and here.

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**fivefeet8** · August 11th, 2002

Specs don't matter much.. It's always been the games.. The snes can produce better graphics, but it was plagued with slowdowns when it's games got too graphic intensive.. More so than the faster genesis or sega cd.. Plus, I've seen games on the genesis and sega cd that rivals anything on the snes..

I had both systems when I was younger and I like my genesis and sega cd more..

Treasure games were just too fun..

And the Sega 6 button pad was the best console gamepad of the time..

Oh and one more thing.. Streets of Rage 2 blew away all other beat em ups in the 16 bit era..

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Mad · August 11th, 2002

only if they made the Snes faster....i would be still be playing that

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**Raziel** · August 11th, 2002

I always hated the megadrive/genesis pad, and most of the games looks much better on SNES than on Genesis.(ok,I'm a intendo fan, so what ?

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**Exophase** · August 17th, 2002

The SNES specs listed are misleading, they offer the maximum possible out of any modes. Most modes don't offer 256 colors, and very few games used 512x224/240 (and only a couple used 512x448/480 because it was interlaced and thus flickered)... instead 256x224/240 was common while on Genesis 320x224/240 was common, so Genesis usually had more resolution. The SNES's main graphical advantages were a more expansive range of colors to use in the palette and color addition/subtraction modes. And hardware scaling/rotation.

When compared side to side the real area SNES shined in over Genesis was in sound. Of course on Sega CD most games used CD-DA tracks so that's not much of an issue there.

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**Kane** · August 19th, 2002

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Originally posted by fivefeet8
Oh and one more thing.. Streets of Rage 2 blew away all other beat em ups in the 16 bit era..

Agreed. It's still my fave side scrolling beat em up.
Interestingly, apparently the SNES CPU was 8-bit.

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**Exophase** · August 19th, 2002

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Originally posted by Lord Kane
Agreed. It's still my fave side scrolling beat em up.
Interestingly, apparently the SNES CPU was 8-bit.

No, it was 16bit.

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**Kane** · August 20th, 2002

I was jsut going from what I heard.

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DoubleD_99 · August 22nd, 2002

I think they are all 16 bit. So there

And if they where not 16-bit then they are now cuz I said so.

Muhahahahaha

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Alias · August 22nd, 2002

was there a purpose to leaving that much space in your post? it was kinda annoying... haha sorry, im just anal.

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Drachenfels · August 24th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by RZetlin
Is the Sega CD an 16 bit system?

The graphics look so superior to the SNES.

Yep.

RZetlin · August 27th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Drachenfels

Quote:

quote: Originally posted by RZetlin
Is the Sega CD an 16 bit system?

The graphics look so superior to the SNES.

Yep.

Sure, change my wording.

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are we trying to make this thread useless? if so, I might just lock it
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RZetlin General of Tangerines Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Defending the Sea Posts: 3,913	Is the Sega CD an 8 bit system? Is the Sega CD an 8 bit system? The graphics look so interior to the SNES. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3700+ \| 2 GB RAM \| XFX Nvidia 6800 GS 256 MB XXX Edition \| Win XP Pro SP3 "Asu no Egao no Tame ni!" - So We Can Smile Tomorrow! Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/RZetlin Last edited by RZetlin; August 10th, 2002 at 03:30..

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RZetlin General of Tangerines Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Defending the Sea Posts: 3,913	The Numbers... I did my own research to find out why the Sega CD graphics looks so cr@ppy to the SNES: Sega CD CPU Speed: 12.7 MHz COLOR Maximum colors on one screen: 64 Total colors available: 512 RESOLUTION Maximum screen resolution: 320 x 224 SPRITES Maximum Sprites: 80 Maximum Sprite size: 32 x 32 SNES CPU Speed: 1.79, 2.68 and 3.58 Mhz COLOR Maximum colors on one screen: 256 Total colors available: 32,678 RESOLUTION Maximum screen resolution: 512x448 SPRITES Maximum Sprites: 128 Maximum Sprite size: 64x64 As you can see the Sega CD had a better CPU speed, but the graphic capabilities are inferior to the SNES. BTW, I got the info here and here. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3700+ \| 2 GB RAM \| XFX Nvidia 6800 GS 256 MB XXX Edition \| Win XP Pro SP3 "Asu no Egao no Tame ni!" - So We Can Smile Tomorrow! Youtube: http://www.youtube.com/RZetlin Last edited by RZetlin; August 11th, 2002 at 02:55..

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Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 3,301	was the Genesis 8 bit?? i just has a better processor than genesis i think, it kinda used both of them, and could do long cutscenes, they look great in lunar __________________ [Windows 7 RTM PRO X64] [Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L] [Intel E5200@2.5Ghz] [Corsair XMS2 DHX 4GB DDR2 800MHz] [HIS HD4670 1GB GDDR3] [19" LCD SyncMaster T190] [Samsung SATA II HD322HJ 320GB] [LG HL-DT-ST DVD-RAM GH22NS30] (@gigaherz) S.N.K.M.A.D.: Synthetic Networked Killing and Masterful Assassination Device

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Samor Guest Posts: n/a	it was 16-bit. the snes was simply able to produce more colours, but the genesis was faster; a good example of this is Lethal Enforcers, a shooting game by konami. The snes version has much more colors but it misses a lot of animation, were the genesis had lack of colors, but was much smoother.

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fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 7,700	Both the SEga genesis and sega cd addon were 16bit.. The sega genesis and sega cd both had 68000 processors, but the 68000 in the sega cd ran at 12 mhz while the genesis 68000 cpu ran at 7 mhz.. The sega cd also had hardware sprite and plane rotation and scaling.. The genesis did rotation and scaling through software.. Sega cd could also display more colors onscreen than the genesis alone.. In comparison, the SNES cpu ran at 3.25 mhz.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel Q6600@3.2 ghertz\|4x1gb DDR2 1066\|Asrock 1600sli 110db LGA 775\|EVGA 8800gtx@620/1450/975\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\|Seagate 7000.10 500gb HD\|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Antec TP 650 watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|20.1" 5ms LCD 1680x1050 Native\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/15" Sub\|Dual Boot Ubuntu 64bit/Vista 32bit\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition

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fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 7,700	Specs don't matter much.. It's always been the games.. The snes can produce better graphics, but it was plagued with slowdowns when it's games got too graphic intensive.. More so than the faster genesis or sega cd.. Plus, I've seen games on the genesis and sega cd that rivals anything on the snes.. I had both systems when I was younger and I like my genesis and sega cd more.. Treasure games were just too fun.. And the Sega 6 button pad was the best console gamepad of the time.. Oh and one more thing.. Streets of Rage 2 blew away all other beat em ups in the 16 bit era.. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel Q6600@3.2 ghertz\|4x1gb DDR2 1066\|Asrock 1600sli 110db LGA 775\|EVGA 8800gtx@620/1450/975\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\|Seagate 7000.10 500gb HD\|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Antec TP 650 watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|20.1" 5ms LCD 1680x1050 Native\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/15" Sub\|Dual Boot Ubuntu 64bit/Vista 32bit\|\| SimplyBuyIt - Health&Nutrition Last edited by fivefeet8; August 11th, 2002 at 01:29..

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Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,246	I always hated the megadrive/genesis pad, and most of the games looks much better on SNES than on Genesis.(ok,I'm a intendo fan, so what ? ) __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @4GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400

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Exophase Emu author Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Cleveland OH, USA Posts: 1,184	The SNES specs listed are misleading, they offer the maximum possible out of any modes. Most modes don't offer 256 colors, and very few games used 512x224/240 (and only a couple used 512x448/480 because it was interlaced and thus flickered)... instead 256x224/240 was common while on Genesis 320x224/240 was common, so Genesis usually had more resolution. The SNES's main graphical advantages were a more expansive range of colors to use in the palette and color addition/subtraction modes. And hardware scaling/rotation. When compared side to side the real area SNES shined in over Genesis was in sound. Of course on Sega CD most games used CD-DA tracks so that's not much of an issue there. - Exo

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Samor Guest Posts: n/a	are we trying to make this thread useless? if so, I might just lock it =P