AMD(ATI) vs Nvidia 2007 - Page 7

afiif · October 11th, 2007

Nvidia all the way. Ati was only good with its 9800 card and that's all.

Cid Highwind · October 11th, 2007

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Originally Posted by afiif

Nvidia all the way. Ati was only good with its 9800 card and that's all.

I'd rather think someone has been living blinded by fanboyism ever since... Not that you can't have a personal preference of course, but don't let brand preference cloud you when the other camp offers you more bang for the buck

guest.r · October 23rd, 2007

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Originally Posted by afiif

Nvidia all the way. Ati was only good with its 9800 card and that's all.

I had to quote someone. No offence plz.

The new radeon 2x00 design shows some extra muscles with newer catalyst releases, placing the cheaper 2600xt gddr3 next to 8600GT.
This matters if you don't decide to buy a gf8800 or a 2900XT card.

And some balancing is required, for example using shaders at max with the radeon and "more demanding texturing" with gf - to get a fair ammount of fps while looking at a nice image with both picks (8600GT(s), 2600xt).

They also produced decent drivers before christmas time when most of the games come out every year. So...the 2x00 series is sort of good if you want to spend 90EUR.

And...

There might be an early hope for DX10 now that 8800GT is out.

ian209 · November 3rd, 2007

wow, nvidia admited defeat to ATI :/
in the G92 VS RV670
Nvidia admits defeat in G92 vs. RV670 battle - The INQUIRER

and in other news, ATI has planned for an HD 2950XT2X (r680) which is like the ati version of the Geforce 7950GX2. I've heard that the R680 can score over 20,000 3dmark 06 points *Drools*

afiif · December 29th, 2007

radeon HD 3850 is the best bang for the bucks

PCXL-Fan · December 29th, 2007

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Originally Posted by ian209

wow, nvidia admited defeat to ATI :/
in the G92 VS RV670
Nvidia admits defeat in G92 vs. RV670 battle - The INQUIRER

and in other news, ATI has planned for an HD 2950XT2X (r680) which is like the ati version of the Geforce 7950GX2. I've heard that the R680 can score over 20,000 3dmark 06 points *Drools*

More like ATI admits defeat and immidiately made plans to quickly roll out their 3xxx sereis cards.

Darkplayer · January 2nd, 2008

I had like 3 Ati Cards and they all just stoped working. Finally after getting a Geforce it´s all workng again!

Squall-Leonhart · January 2nd, 2008

anyone who is into Emulation WOULD BE A STUPID GIT to get an ATI card knowing full well the limitations of thier drivers.

MeTaLnEcRo · February 2nd, 2008

I have used both ATI and nVidia in the past and I would have to lean more in nVidia's favor at the moment.

It will be interesting to see how the Geforce 9800GX2 and the HD3870 X2 dual gpu cards compete with each other. The HD3870 X2 is available now and the 9800GX2 should be arriving within a few weeks.

MoRZiLLo · February 5th, 2008

Wowwwwwwwwww the 3870GX2 is pretty cool!!!!
I have a little question about performance and the drivers, but... i like this card!!! This is My next/future card

blueshogun96 · February 6th, 2008

NVIDIA recently acquired AGEIA. Click here for the full story.

PCXL-Fan · February 6th, 2008

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Originally Posted by blueshogun96

NVIDIA recently acquired AGEIA. Click here for the full story.

I'm not really too excited or impressed. I would prefer if they dedicate all the silicon on the cards to graphics and leave the physics for the emerging multi-cored cpus. Neither do I want to pay even more for my videocards or pay the same but have potentially inferior graphic performance.

**mudlord** · February 6th, 2008

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Wowwwwwwwwww the 3870GX2 is pretty cool!!!!
I have a little question about performance and the drivers, but... i like this card!!! This is My next/future card

Since your using Linux, I recommend sticking with NVIDIA cards. ATI OpenGL drivers under Linux are absolutely terrible....

blueshogun96 · February 7th, 2008

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Originally Posted by mudlord

Since your using Linux, I recommend sticking with NVIDIA cards. ATI OpenGL drivers under Linux are absolutely terrible....

They aren't too good on windows either. I remember the time I brought an emulation project to my university (which used OpenGL), and the program kept crashing. Fortunately, the computers had Visual Studio so I was able to debug it. Turns out it was ATI's OpenGL drivers crashing for no good reason. All of the PC's there for the students had Radeon X300. I was quite disappointed.

**mudlord** · February 8th, 2008

I also had some very bad experiences under Windows with ATI cards and OpenGL apps, due to bad drivers...

Case in point: The Glide3x wrapper including in Glide64. We had to make hacks to workaround slowdown issues, thanks to ATI's GLSL shader compiler being dodgy (not supporting moduli), and not supporting texture formats that it should. And yet ATI cards still have issues. I seriously wonder if the AMD driver devs even read the OpenGL specs proper when implementing the driver support.

**fivefeet8** · February 8th, 2008

That's interesting considering they've been touting their horns about their much improved OpenGL drivers for over a year now. I wonder what ever became of their OpenGL rewrite that they've been working on for the past 2 years. It's probably an issue with priorities at this point.

**mudlord** · February 8th, 2008

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I wonder what ever became of their OpenGL rewrite that they've been working on for the past 2 years. It's probably an issue with priorities at this point.

Obviously its all hype and no show. ATI keeps developing nice cards, but thier drivers keep holding them back. A flawed combination. At least NVIDIA have rock solid drivers for Windows/Linux/whatever, and solid hardware to match.

Hard core Rikki · February 9th, 2008

last time I poked ATI, it didnt move... :P
the AMD deal pretty much klIIed the brand

blueshogun96 · February 12th, 2008

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Originally Posted by mudlord

Obviously its all hype and no show. ATI keeps developing nice cards, but thier drivers keep holding them back. A flawed combination. At least NVIDIA have rock solid drivers for Windows/Linux/whatever, and solid hardware to match.

NVIDIA's drivers are starting to get bad too. Lately almost all games using the QIII engine (i.e. Doom3) are completely broken. It's Direct3D support isn't doing to well either. DirectX 3.0 games are mostly broken (i.e. MDK, AvP Gold, and more) as well as some newer Direct3D series games (such as the entire Theif series). But NVIDIA's drivers are still the best.

bobrocks95 · February 13th, 2008

I used ATI before, then switched to NVidia. The difference was enormous. NVidia had so many more customizable options.

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October 11th, 2007	#121 (permalink)
afiif Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mauritius Posts: 9	Nvidia all the way. Ati was only good with its 9800 card and that's all. __________________ PC specs: Pentium D915 2.8Ghz @ 3.2Ghz Corsair HyperX 1024MB(2X512MB) Geforce 7600GS 512 DDR2 My blog: videomachina.wordpress.com

November 3rd, 2007	#124 (permalink)
ian209 DJ-Roadkill Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 497	wow, nvidia admited defeat to ATI :/ in the G92 VS RV670 Nvidia admits defeat in G92 vs. RV670 battle - The INQUIRER and in other news, ATI has planned for an HD 2950XT2X (r680) which is like the ati version of the Geforce 7950GX2. I've heard that the R680 can score over 20,000 3dmark 06 points Drools __________________ Asus Maximus Formula Intel Q6600 @ 3.8Ghz (Air Cooled w/T.R.U.E) ATI Radeon HD3870 (OCed 994/1200) OCZ 4GB Platinum PC2-6400 (5-4-4-15) Mushkin XP650w PSU 3X 320GB HDDs 1X 500GB HDD 36.7GB WD Raptor TT VA8000BWS black Others: Logitech G7 Mouse and G25 Wheel, Smartjoy PS2USB, Yamaha HTR-5370 A/V Reciever, Samsung SyncMaster 931c, Dual MTX MXS1204 12' 800w Subs w/ RFF 1000w Amp http://www.ilike.com/artist/djroadkill - Check out my music.

December 29th, 2007	#125 (permalink)
afiif Registered User Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mauritius Posts: 9	radeon HD 3850 is the best bang for the bucks __________________ PC specs: Pentium D915 2.8Ghz @ 3.2Ghz Corsair HyperX 1024MB(2X512MB) Geforce 7600GS 512 DDR2 My blog: videomachina.wordpress.com

January 2nd, 2008	#127 (permalink)
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January 2nd, 2008	#128 (permalink)
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February 2nd, 2008	#129 (permalink)
MeTaLnEcRo Old half-mute lurker... Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: I'm in hell saving a seat for all who oppose me.... Posts: 38	I have used both ATI and nVidia in the past and I would have to lean more in nVidia's favor at the moment. It will be interesting to see how the Geforce 9800GX2 and the HD3870 X2 dual gpu cards compete with each other. The HD3870 X2 is available now and the 9800GX2 should be arriving within a few weeks. __________________ ASUS P5E X38 \| Intel E8400 3.0 @ 4.0ghz \|Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro\| 4gb G.Skill DDR2 1000 @ 1066 \| 8800GT 512mb @ 700/2000/1750 \| Onboard Sound \| 2 Seagate Cuda's 80gig Sata in Raid0 \|Antec 900 Case\| Vista Home Premium 64bit

February 5th, 2008	#130 (permalink)
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February 6th, 2008	#131 (permalink)
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February 8th, 2008	#135 (permalink)
mudlord Emu author Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Wuzzleberg Posts: 1,357	I also had some very bad experiences under Windows with ATI cards and OpenGL apps, due to bad drivers... Case in point: The Glide3x wrapper including in Glide64. We had to make hacks to workaround slowdown issues, thanks to ATI's GLSL shader compiler being dodgy (not supporting moduli), and not supporting texture formats that it should. And yet ATI cards still have issues. I seriously wonder if the AMD driver devs even read the OpenGL specs proper when implementing the driver support. __________________ "Software is getting slower more rapidly than hardware becomes faster......" -Niklaus Wirth

February 8th, 2008	#136 (permalink)
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 7,555	That's interesting considering they've been touting their horns about their much improved OpenGL drivers for over a year now. I wonder what ever became of their OpenGL rewrite that they've been working on for the past 2 years. It's probably an issue with priorities at this point. __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel Q6600@3.2 ghertz\|4x1gb DDR2 1066\|Asrock 1600sli 110db LGA 775\|EVGA 8800gtx@620/1450/975\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\|Seagate 7000.10 500gb HD\|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Antec TP 650 watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|20.1" 5ms LCD 1680x1050 Native\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/15" Sub\|Dual Boot Winows XP Pro/Vista 64bit\|\| 2nd Rig\|\|Athlon64 x2 3800+\|2x1 gig PC3200\|BFG Geforce 6800 Ultra OC @450/1250 agp\|60 gig Maxtor IDE HD 7200 RPM\|40 gig Maxtor IDE HD\|Asrock Dual SATA2\|Silver Aluminum ATX\|17" LCD\|\| 3rd Rig\|\|Athlon Xp 2800+\|1.5 gig PC2700\|BFG GeforceFx 5900 Ultra OC agp\|100 gig Maxtor SATA HD\|NF7-s rev2.0\|Nvidia Soundstorm MCP\|19" CRT\|\|

February 9th, 2008	#138 (permalink)
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