What's a good video card out there? - Page 3

Phuzzi · January 15th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by sonicfoot
umm.......i dont know how much i can get a radeon 64 for since some of you say its faster than a geforce 2mx, but is a geforce 2mx 400 64mb for £60( i live in england) worth it?

Yeah, that isn't too bad.
But then, you could get a full GeForce2 card for ~£90..

January 15th, 2002

Why pay $100+ for a decent GeForce2 MX card ... it's a budget card at a budget price ... why not just get a GeForce2 Ti ... A Premium GeForce2 card at a budget price. I got mine for $140 and performs between a GeForce2 Pro and Ultra. It works great and the one I have comes with 64 MB of DDR ram and TV-Out. From everything that I have read it comes very recommended.

SgtGhost · January 16th, 2002

Phuzzi:

It doesn’t matter if its enable or not. The GF3 is tad faster then the ATI. Maybe you should try to get your hands on the both cards and test them before babbling to me what’s FSAA is all about!

And also, you should always try to read message forums in a neutral state. If you think i was angry or whatever you were thinking, use the PV message options and asked me if I was.

Thank you
Sarge

Phuzzi · January 16th, 2002

SgtGhost: The point here isn't what FSAA is all about, else i might start mentioning just how much the GF3 blurs images when it's doing FSAA. Yes, at the moment the GF3 is faster, but that isn't what I, or demigod, was pointing out.

Keith: Yes, everyone on the planet knows you got a new videocard now, no need to keep mentioning it like you work for their PR department.

January 16th, 2002

Excuse me? I just mentioned it so people wouldn't waste their money on a budget card when they could get more performance for their money. I also mentioned it becuase nobody else did, was just giving another option to choose from.

**Shiori** · January 16th, 2002

hehehe....haven't you guys gotten used to him yet?

Iran · January 16th, 2002

you can get a radeon 8500 oem for under usd 200 at pricewatch.com w/c is a very good value for ur money i am also getting one soon

Phuzzi · January 16th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Keith
Excuse me?

Nope.

Ma'anagal · January 17th, 2002

If you want a Geforce 2 card you should buy a GTS or PRO version since they're cheap now. What ever you do the Geforce 2MX 200 and 400 are a waste of money, they have about the same performance as the original, but cost more.

The Kyro 2 is cheap and fast, but has some bugs (most of them will be fixed with some driver updates)

The Kyro 3 should arive soon and it's expected to be as fast as a Geforce 3, but much cheaper and 100% DirectX 8.1 support.
Tile Based Rendering is the future.

BaD_BURN · January 18th, 2002

...an S3 Trio3D 2X.

cairey · January 20th, 2002

Well, the GeForces technique of FSAA isn't that blury, but it does it **** job at eliminating the jagged edges. It does get blury however with the sample filter. 3dfx's FSAA (the best) does a good job, but can get blury because the pixels are rotated in a diamond shape. However, at high resolutions this may not be so noticeable.

The card you get really depends on your CPU. GeForce2 MX is suited to low CPU's with people who will play games at low resolutions without bandwidth taxing features on. FSAA will also be a no-goer for the MX, as it doesn't have the fill rate nor memory bandwidth.

Kyro2 is suited to high CPU's to get the most out of it, as it is really dependent on CPU power.

TBR is good for now, but what happenes when we get to the point where that's not so much the bottleneck? We already have back-face culling done auto by the API. It won't be that effective, however, it really at this point and for a while will be a huge bottleneck. If nVidia do the _right_ thing, then we should see Giga Pixel tech in the NV30

Nvidia have currently got some HSR tech now.

January 16th, 2002	#46 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	hehehe....haven't you guys gotten used to him yet? __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..." Last edited by Shiori; January 16th, 2002 at 16:10.

January 17th, 2002	#49 (permalink)
Ma'anagal Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Norway Posts: 20	If you want a Geforce 2 card you should buy a GTS or PRO version since they're cheap now. What ever you do the Geforce 2MX 200 and 400 are a waste of money, they have about the same performance as the original, but cost more. The Kyro 2 is cheap and fast, but has some bugs (most of them will be fixed with some driver updates) The Kyro 3 should arive soon and it's expected to be as fast as a Geforce 3, but much cheaper and 100% DirectX 8.1 support. Tile Based Rendering is the future. __________________ "The secret of success is to know something nobody else knows." - Aristotle Onassis Duron 750@:eek: VapoChill:eek: 256MB ram PC-166 cas2:eek: Kyro 2

January 18th, 2002	#50 (permalink)
BaD_BURN In limbo Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Cave dweller Posts: 914	Here's a card that'll smoke all... ...an S3 Trio3D 2X.

January 20th, 2002	#51 (permalink)
cairey Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: England Posts: 215	Well, the GeForces technique of FSAA isn't that blury, but it does it **** job at eliminating the jagged edges. It does get blury however with the sample filter. 3dfx's FSAA (the best) does a good job, but can get blury because the pixels are rotated in a diamond shape. However, at high resolutions this may not be so noticeable. The card you get really depends on your CPU. GeForce2 MX is suited to low CPU's with people who will play games at low resolutions without bandwidth taxing features on. FSAA will also be a no-goer for the MX, as it doesn't have the fill rate nor memory bandwidth. Kyro2 is suited to high CPU's to get the most out of it, as it is really dependent on CPU power. TBR is good for now, but what happenes when we get to the point where that's not so much the bottleneck? We already have back-face culling done auto by the API. It won't be that effective, however, it really at this point and for a while will be a huge bottleneck. If nVidia do the _right_ thing, then we should see Giga Pixel tech in the NV30 Nvidia have currently got some HSR tech now. __________________ http://go.to/cairey - My Home Page

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January 15th, 2002	#42 (permalink)
Keith Guest Posts: n/a	Why pay $100+ for a decent GeForce2 MX card ... it's a budget card at a budget price ... why not just get a GeForce2 Ti ... A Premium GeForce2 card at a budget price. I got mine for $140 and performs between a GeForce2 Pro and Ultra. It works great and the one I have comes with 64 MB of DDR ram and TV-Out. From everything that I have read it comes very recommended.

January 16th, 2002	#43 (permalink)
SgtGhost Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: CA - QC - MTL Posts: 69	Phuzzi: It doesn’t matter if its enable or not. The GF3 is tad faster then the ATI. Maybe you should try to get your hands on the both cards and test them before babbling to me what’s FSAA is all about! And also, you should always try to read message forums in a neutral state. If you think i was angry or whatever you were thinking, use the PV message options and asked me if I was. Thank you Sarge

January 16th, 2002	#44 (permalink)
Phuzzi Offending nations since '83 Join Date: May 2001 Location: England Posts: 265	SgtGhost: The point here isn't what FSAA is all about, else i might start mentioning just how much the GF3 blurs images when it's doing FSAA. Yes, at the moment the GF3 is faster, but that isn't what I, or demigod, was pointing out. Keith: Yes, everyone on the planet knows you got a new videocard now, no need to keep mentioning it like you work for their PR department.

January 16th, 2002	#45 (permalink)
Keith Guest Posts: n/a	Excuse me? I just mentioned it so people wouldn't waste their money on a budget card when they could get more performance for their money. I also mentioned it becuase nobody else did, was just giving another option to choose from.

January 16th, 2002	#47 (permalink)
Iran Iran Pogi Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Stanmore Posts: 632	you can get a radeon 8500 oem for under usd 200 at pricewatch.com w/c is a very good value for ur money i am also getting one soon