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Old October 28th, 2001   #1 (permalink)
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sum help plz?

i'm getting a new computer, custom, but i dun't kno wuts gd...
all i kno is 256mb ram is ok....(mite add sum more) and the processor....p4 1.5ghz, are there ne other processors thats gd? (winXP)

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Old October 29th, 2001   #2 (permalink)
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Do not, I repeat, do NOT get a Pentium IV.... it's a POS.
Get an AMD Athlon/AthlonXP instead.
While you're at that, get a GeForce3, and SBLive Audigy Platinum (if budget is not an issue, that is).
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Old October 29th, 2001   #3 (permalink)
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how is it a pos? isn't it fast?
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Old October 29th, 2001   #4 (permalink)
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sure a P4 is fast but power over price wise Athlon XP is better and is even faster even an Athlon XP 1.5 GHz can out bench a P4 2GHz now if you want a good dream setup i'll give you one (budget mustn't be an issue):
Athlon XP processor any speed the higher the better
Shuttle AK31 KT266A Mobo or try any nForce Mobo that is yet to come out
512MB DDRAM
GeForce 3 Ti500
SB Audigy Platinum/Player w/ any nice 5.1 speakers
a fast HD
and a huge Monitor!!!
now that is a system!!!
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Quote:
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how is it a pos? isn't it fast?
It's as fast as a strolling turtle with broken legs.... just kidding....

Sure, it's 1.5Ghz... but numbers are just that, marketing ploy... like what aoshi said, an Athlon 1.5Ghz kills a P4 2Ghz.. why? Architectural differences. Intel rushed the P4 out the door so as to be able to remain competitive with AMD... but in the process, they cut a lot of corners and as a result, the P4 is s**tty in so many ways it's not even funny.
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They're right. AMD and Intel followed different paths: Intel wants higher frequencies(more clocks per second), but they have less instructions per clock. AMD's cpus has more instructions per clock, less clocks per second. However, Pentium IV has others bad points, like the weak ALU. AMD's Athlon is better than PIV, and Athlon XP is even better. Not to mention that it's much cheaper too.
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hahaha.....
nvr new p4 is so sucky...
alrite.....is there nething wrong with p3....lol
um....also wuts Shuttle AK31 KT266A Mobo and ta nForce?
also while surfin ta forum....i came by a post bout sum guy havin spd problems.....neways in his specs it said winXP (no comments i had enough alrdy) or sumthing like tat.....
is there nething rong wit XP? and um......wen u guys post yur stuff for a gd comp could ya give a estimate for ta price? tat way it'll b ez'ier for me 2 find out how much i nd 2 get

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Old October 30th, 2001   #8 (permalink)
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yo man u still lernen engrish? :fingers: :bash:

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I think he's just been holding a mobile phone for too long.
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no man....
i'm just to lazy to write like this...
haha......
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Dude.. check here for benchmark stats of athlon xp's vs P4's..

http://www.anandtech.com/cpu/showdoc.html?i=1543

An athlon xp 1.53 gig 1800 can be had for $200 or less.. A P4 2 gig is about $500.. Save that extra $300 for a geforce 3..
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Just making sure you knew how.
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Old October 30th, 2001   #13 (permalink)
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yeah wutever...
neways this is wut i got so far....

WinXP Home Version......
AthlonXP duno wut spd yet.....
256mb ram....
nVidia Geforce3.......
Creat SB audigy platinum...
TDK VeloCD rewriter 24x/10x/40x...
LG cdrom drive 52x EIDE 75MS CRD-8522BI......
my friend gave me an estimate of $1180.00 (cdn)
[just added]
logitech internet navigator keyboard n optical wheel mouse
cyber acoustics CA-3000 (sorry forgot about picture)
new total is $1210.00
also how much is a 40gb hd?

so....rite now i'm pretty shocked.....n kinda angry....i paid almost 3g's for this peice of junk...(bought this in 1999 i think..)
things tat came with my cpu....17" monitor, bjc2000 printer, GNT subwoofer sys (GNT-5000), regular keyboard n mouse(nothing fancy) also b4 i had only 64mb ram.....dam sales person took out my 64mb n put in 256 instead of adding....gota beat him black n blue.....wutever...he's 2 far...

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ok...
i'm guessing u guys don't know what i'm saying in my 3rd post so....let me repeat (kinda)
whats Shuttle AK31 KT266A mobo and nForce...
and also...is there anything wrong with winXP.....because some guy wrote this winXP (no comment please, i've had enough already)
or something like that...
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>whats Shuttle AK31 KT266A mobo and nForce...

well Shuttle AK31 KT266A mobo or MOther BOard or where you are gonna put all those things that you ar going to buy! it is a top rated board for the Athlon XP based on the VIA KT266A chipset the nForce is a motherboard chipset by nvidia that is yet to be released to the market but test conducted on some sites yielded great results but I guess you are in a hurry for a new PC so I won't suggest it anymore

and about WinXP: sure it is nice but is not very compatible witth old games if you know an expert why don't you ask him to dual boot your system to Win98 and WinXP for better compatibility
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http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.html?i=1547

Check there for a review of the shuttle mobo as well as some benchmark comparisons..

There is also a price listing on www.anandtech.com showing that the shuttle mobo is about 85 dollars..

http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...?threadid=6678

Check there for info about nforce..
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heh..
looks like i'm in a hurry eh?
i'm just finding out the prices 1st...
yea....so....how much would a 40gig hd and a 17" lcd monitor(anyones r gd)

also...is it worth gettin a high speed burner like the one i posted....my friend says an 8x burner is alright......
so....yea....do u guys kno any good burners ?

is the pricing i got anywhere near what its suppose to be?

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>yea....so....how much would a 40gig hd and a 17" lcd monitor(anyones r gd)

about as much money as you would spend on a mid-range PC lcd monitors are EXPENSIVE (personally i dont like the way most LCD monitors show graphics)

>so....yea....do u guys kno any good burners ?

Plextor is nice, i heard they are recommended by warez pirates(or piraters? what's the correct way of saying it?)
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my p3 1000E@1240 outbenches a p4 1.6. I know people with my same chip running in excess of 1.4ghz aircooled.

If I had to buy a new pc right now I would get a tualatin 1.26 (512k cache) and clock it to 1.5+ ghz. otherwise I would wait for p4 northwood.
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uh....
what???
are u saying u made your p3 chip work faster??
what n who makes tualatin???
n also my friend says if i'm gettin a AthlonXP 1.8ghz(think thats what it is....so bad in numbers..) i'll b needing more ram...is this true??

as u can see.....i'm dumb as something.....i don't know much about computers on inside....but i know how 2 work em....

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