Laptop graphic chips?

tonyyeb · October 26th, 2004

Hi all

Im looking to buy a budget to mid range laptop and I'm looking at some of the gfx chips that some offer and don't have a clue as to how they compare with the desktops available. Can someone help. Im looking at ATI 7000, 9000 and 9700 on offer. I have a ATI Radeon 9600 XT 256mb in my desktop. Can you give me some idea of how they would compare or if they are similar to a 9200SE or something?

Cheers

Tonyyeb

**Razor Blade** · October 26th, 2004

well generally, you'll get basically the same performance. Like this ... Desktop 9600pro and a laptop version of a 9600pro. In most cases the desktop counterparts will always be a little faster in fps, but nothing you would really notice. A 9200SE wouldn't really be worth your time. It lacks everything you would want probably

If you're used to the speed of a 9600XT, than I would highly suggest to get the same level of performance, to try to find a laptop with a 9700 card in it. I knows nVidia makes cards too, about equal to the speeds of ATi's (if not better in some cases).

The problem is, is that a budget laptop or even mid-range won't usually include a graphics card better than geforce 4 or Radeon 9000. So ig you want a gaming laptop expect to pay a fair amount more, just for that feature.

INCA · October 26th, 2004

Just don't get stuck with intel graphics card like my friend did

. If you ever wanna get midrange laptop with 9600 look at Emachine laptop like this one:$1499.99
http://www.e4me.com/products/product...Machines_M6810
It has alot of power since its powered by Amd64 with Radeon 9600 64mb.
Anything else better your likely to pay more than $2000.

**Bgnome** · October 26th, 2004

remember that whatever you end up getting, you will most likely be stuck with. so get the absolute best that you can possibly afford so it will last you at least a few years. i have a laptop that was top-of-the-line 6 years ago and it is absolutely worthless now. the only exceptions to this rule that i can think of are some of the alienware and dell xps gaming laptops that offer a upgradeable video card.

**Bgnome** · October 26th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by INCA

Just don't get stuck with intel graphics card like my friend did

. If you ever wanna get midrange laptop with 9600 look at Emachine laptop like this one:$1499.99
http://www.e4me.com/products/product...Machines_M6810
It has alot of power since its powered by Amd64 with Radeon 9600 64mb.
Anything else better your likely to pay more than $2000.

thats the one my wife got and it's a pretty sweet laptop

**Razor Blade** · October 26th, 2004

Yea. I would love to get an alienware, but damn they are pricy

I was looking at how much my top of the line laptop cost when I got it in 1999 and it was $2600.00! Now it is basically worthless. Only really good for e mail

The Captain · October 26th, 2004

If you have the $, go for a laptop with an ati mobility radeon 9800 or x600.

tonyyeb · October 26th, 2004

What about the ones with ATi M!0 and M11? Im looking at one with M11 128mb.

Badaro · October 26th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Razor Blade

well generally, you'll get basically the same performance. Like this ... Desktop 9600pro and a laptop version of a 9600pro. In most cases the desktop counterparts will always be a little faster in fps, but nothing you would really notice.

There are some exceptions for this rule. The Mobility 9700 is actually closer a 9600, since it has 4 pipelines instead of 8 of the desktop 9700.

However, the Mobility 9800 has all 8 pipes, so it's significantly faster than previous chips. Anyway, try to get at least a 128MB Mobility 9600 if you are interested in playing games on that notebook.

FYI, I have the 4080, which is almost identical to this one but with a M10 instead of a M11:
http://www.sagernotebook.com/pages/n...oductType=4380

I've had it for about 10 months now and I'm extremely happy with it.

[]s Badaro

Edit: Here's an interesting link
http://www.rojakpot.com/default.aspx...var1=98&var2=0

Unicron · October 26th, 2004

radeon mobility 9800 is based off of the x800 chip. While the radeon 9700 iirc is based off of the 9600.

I think toms hardware and anandtech did excellent reports on this subject as well.

**Typhoon 01** · October 26th, 2004

Well if you are not in a real hurry to get a laptop i would suggest waiting for the nvidia MXM cards, yo can get a laptop with an entry level card and upgrade it later.
Else i suggest someting based of ati MR 9600 or nvidia gffx 5700.

tonyyeb · October 27th, 2004

Well thanks for all the advice guys, I have just placed my order for http://www.meshcomputers.com/updated...iew3ghzpro.htm which has a 128mb M11 (which is a 9700?). Cheers

**Razor Blade** · October 27th, 2004

Wicked computer!

Badaro · October 27th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyyeb

Well thanks for all the advice guys, I have just placed my order for http://www.meshcomputers.com/updated...iew3ghzpro.htm which has a 128mb M11 (which is a 9700?). Cheers

Very nice. Me <3 SXGA+ displays.

[]s Badaro

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tonyyeb C:\ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: (It's never dull in....) Hull, UK Posts: 364	Laptop graphic chips? Hi all Im looking to buy a budget to mid range laptop and I'm looking at some of the gfx chips that some offer and don't have a clue as to how they compare with the desktops available. Can someone help. Im looking at ATI 7000, 9000 and 9700 on offer. I have a ATI Radeon 9600 XT 256mb in my desktop. Can you give me some idea of how they would compare or if they are similar to a 9200SE or something? Cheers Tonyyeb __________________ Got a Windows Server Problem? Check out ServerSupport.co.uk

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Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,030	well generally, you'll get basically the same performance. Like this ... Desktop 9600pro and a laptop version of a 9600pro. In most cases the desktop counterparts will always be a little faster in fps, but nothing you would really notice. A 9200SE wouldn't really be worth your time. It lacks everything you would want probably If you're used to the speed of a 9600XT, than I would highly suggest to get the same level of performance, to try to find a laptop with a 9700 card in it. I knows nVidia makes cards too, about equal to the speeds of ATi's (if not better in some cases). The problem is, is that a budget laptop or even mid-range won't usually include a graphics card better than geforce 4 or Radeon 9000. So ig you want a gaming laptop expect to pay a fair amount more, just for that feature. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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INCA Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 711	Just don't get stuck with intel graphics card like my friend did . If you ever wanna get midrange laptop with 9600 look at Emachine laptop like this one:$1499.99 http://www.e4me.com/products/product...Machines_M6810 It has alot of power since its powered by Amd64 with Radeon 9600 64mb. Anything else better your likely to pay more than $2000. __________________ My Laptop: Dell 700m 1.8ghz Centrino, 80gigs, Win XP Pro sp2, 1gig PC2700 Intel Graphics Card. R.I.P. My Dreamcast 2000-2004

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Unicron Git er done Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC USA GO us! Posts: 2,828	radeon mobility 9800 is based off of the x800 chip. While the radeon 9700 iirc is based off of the 9600. I think toms hardware and anandtech did excellent reports on this subject as well. __________________ It is the soldier, not the court, that has given us freedom of speech. It is the soldier, not the agitator, who has given us the freedom to protest. It is the soldier who salutes the flag, serves beneath the flag, whose coffin is draped by the flag, who gives that protestor the freedom he abuses to burn that flag. -Senator Zell Miller

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tonyyeb C:\ Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: (It's never dull in....) Hull, UK Posts: 364	Well thanks for all the advice guys, I have just placed my order for http://www.meshcomputers.com/updated...iew3ghzpro.htm which has a 128mb M11 (which is a 9700?). Cheers __________________ Got a Windows Server Problem? Check out ServerSupport.co.uk

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