What to do with this Pentium 233 MMX Rig...(Need suggestions) - Page 2

Esturk · May 25th, 2004

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Originally Posted by SzL

Anyway, I'm scared of Windows NT for some reason, probably because my older brother used it so much and had it on all his computers. I couldn't play my emulators under it, and that's what pissed me off.

Meh... I wouldn't use a 233Mhz rig for an emulator machine. That's what your main rig is for am I right SzL? Heh, my secondary rig is now a Pentium III 500Mhz with 128Mb ram. My mom is using it right now instead of the P233, until I get another desk to put the PIII into my room. She only uses it for internet and Winamp so NT4 does the job and does it really well too.

No need to be scared of Windows NT, it's an awesome OS. Sure it lacks Directx 6+ but who cares, that's not what it was designed for. The only reason I suggested NT4 was because it appeared it was just for music and internet. I didn't know you were gonna attempt to play any emulators on it.

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[Thoughtless] · May 26th, 2004

o_O

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Intel Pentium With MMX Technology @233MHz
160MB of PC100 SDRAM @ PC66

I would say buy a new motherboard, memory and cpu. Replace your current one. Then install XP.

**liquid** · May 26th, 2004

you should eat it... j/k

a 233mmx is good for running a small file server, or just as a b1tch box for just testing stuff. If you are going to use it for networking I recommending using either Fedora or mandrake Linux, if you want to stick with windows then I recommend going with win98. At 233Mhz I'm not sure what you could run on it except for some snes and genesis emus.

**n_w95482** · May 26th, 2004

You could do what I did to my P233 box: use it for DOS gaming. Just slap Win98 on it and it should work quite well. Mine does DOS gaming decently even with the tiny amount of RAM that it has (I desperately need to get more). I don't think Gens would run full speed on it though, my mom's P200 (non MMX) ran Sonic and Knuckles at 35 FPS in a 320x240 window with no sound.

Thoughtless: That would probably defeat the purpose of the computer. He's trying to see what he can do with it for little to no cost. Buying new components would cost too much money.

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Clements · May 26th, 2004

When I was in your situation and had an older computer, I sold it and bought myself a new graphics card and RAM for my current comp since there wasn't a lot of space in my room for the two of them.

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**Katsuya** · May 26th, 2004

WinXP can give better with performance then 98se. you just have to know how to modify the OS.

Me and the guys at the computer lab benchmarked a system with a 233mhz (MMX) Pentium 1 with 64mb of RAM (EDO)

Then we used a 400mhz AMD K6-3+ (MMX and 3Dnow) in the same system.

(The Video Card we used was a Geforce 2 MX200 PCI)

This is how we set it

Win98se, with a 233mhz Pentium 1 (Average)

Vs.

Win98se, with a 400mhz AMD K6-3+ (Average but crushed the Pentium 1)

WinXP Stock, with a 233mhz Pentium 1 (Total Loser compared to everything else)

Vs.

WinXP Modified, with a 233mhz Pentium 1 (better then average of win98 and it match the Stock AMD in Most things except 3D games)

WinXP Stock, with a 400mhz AMD K6-3+ (beat out the 233+98se. match 233+XP-Mod (except in 3D) and it lost to the 400+98se)

Vs.

WinXP Modified, with a 400mhz AMD K6-3+ (crushed everything in the test)

Last edited by Katsuya; May 26th, 2004 at 09:17.

KillerShots · May 26th, 2004

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Originally Posted by liquid

If you are going to use it for networking I recommending using either Fedora or mandrake Linux,...

I tried both those options on a similar box once... took about 1 1/2 days to get through the text-based install with both OS's... however, Mandrake seemed to run just fine after it was (finally) installed. I gave up on Fedora when it seemed to be suffering the same symptoms Mandrake had when I had installed it. If you go linux, get something that installs quick and has little to no bloat (slackware/debian). I was able to install a working copy of debian and only take up 32M on my hard drive on that same machine (install was only 5 minutes compared to 1 1/2 days). Just something to think about

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Esturk · May 26th, 2004

If you want a firewall, try Smoothwall. It installed on my other 233MMX in seconds. Setup was quick and easy too.

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aolforbroadband · May 30th, 2004

Well, I got my P3 450 in the mail the other day. So I don't know which mobo to get for that...

I'd perfer getting that P3 a decent mobo, then using this rigs parts for it. I went back to 98SE and I still can't get any of my *****ing sound cards to work. I've tried 2 different Creative Labs cards and a C-Media card.

I'm thinking of just turning this into a Slot 1 machine with an overclocked P3.

Anyone know of a good Slot 1 mobo that lets me overclock a bit?

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Esturk · May 30th, 2004

I'd reccomend an ASUS P3B-F, which is what I'm using for my Pentium III 500 Slot 1.

Ah... the PIII 500... with 512Kb L2 Cache. King processor back in the day...

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May 26th, 2004	#23 (permalink)
liquid Ebichu! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Posts: 2,091	you should eat it... j/k a 233mmx is good for running a small file server, or just as a b1tch box for just testing stuff. If you are going to use it for networking I recommending using either Fedora or mandrake Linux, if you want to stick with windows then I recommend going with win98. At 233Mhz I'm not sure what you could run on it except for some snes and genesis emus.

May 26th, 2004	#24 (permalink)
n_w95482 Totally crazy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,770	You could do what I did to my P233 box: use it for DOS gaming. Just slap Win98 on it and it should work quite well. Mine does DOS gaming decently even with the tiny amount of RAM that it has (I desperately need to get more). I don't think Gens would run full speed on it though, my mom's P200 (non MMX) ran Sonic and Knuckles at 35 FPS in a 320x240 window with no sound. Thoughtless: That would probably defeat the purpose of the computer. He's trying to see what he can do with it for little to no cost. Buying new components would cost too much money. __________________ Main PC: Asus P6T Deluxe, Intel Core i7 920 C0 @ 3.7 GHz (195x19, 1.3v core, 1.84v PLL, 1.3625v uncore) w/Thermalright Ultra 120 Extreme, 3x2 GB G Skill PC3-12800 @ 780 MHz, 7-7-7-21-1T, 1.66v; ATi Radeon HD 4870 1 GB @ 790/1000 w/Zalman VF-1000, 300 GB WD VelociRaptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), 3ware 9650SE-4LPML RAID controller, SB X-Fi Titanium, Seasonic M12D 750w, CM Stacker 810, Windows 7 Pro 64-bit, Dell 2007WFP XBL/PSN/WoW: Thordrune

May 26th, 2004	#25 (permalink)
Clements MMP-2 Dude Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 1,637	When I was in your situation and had an older computer, I sold it and bought myself a new graphics card and RAM for my current comp since there wasn't a lot of space in my room for the two of them. __________________ PJ64 Homepage \| ZSNES Documentation Project \| bsnes Supporter

May 26th, 2004	#26 (permalink)
Katsuya - Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: - Posts: 1,934	WinXP can give better with performance then 98se. you just have to know how to modify the OS. Me and the guys at the computer lab benchmarked a system with a 233mhz (MMX) Pentium 1 with 64mb of RAM (EDO) Then we used a 400mhz AMD K6-3+ (MMX and 3Dnow) in the same system. (The Video Card we used was a Geforce 2 MX200 PCI) This is how we set it Win98se, with a 233mhz Pentium 1 (Average) Vs. Win98se, with a 400mhz AMD K6-3+ (Average but crushed the Pentium 1) WinXP Stock, with a 233mhz Pentium 1 (Total Loser compared to everything else) Vs. WinXP Modified, with a 233mhz Pentium 1 (better then average of win98 and it match the Stock AMD in Most things except 3D games) WinXP Stock, with a 400mhz AMD K6-3+ (beat out the 233+98se. match 233+XP-Mod (except in 3D) and it lost to the 400+98se) Vs. WinXP Modified, with a 400mhz AMD K6-3+ (crushed everything in the test) Last edited by Katsuya; May 26th, 2004 at 09:17.

May 26th, 2004	#28 (permalink)
Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,958	If you want a firewall, try Smoothwall. It installed on my other 233MMX in seconds. Setup was quick and easy too. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5Q Deluxe, Intel P45 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

May 30th, 2004	#29 (permalink)
aolforbroadband I am pro, lawl. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Washington D.C. Area Posts: 1,836	Well, I got my P3 450 in the mail the other day. So I don't know which mobo to get for that... I'd perfer getting that P3 a decent mobo, then using this rigs parts for it. I went back to 98SE and I still can't get any of my *****ing sound cards to work. I've tried 2 different Creative Labs cards and a C-Media card. I'm thinking of just turning this into a Slot 1 machine with an overclocked P3. Anyone know of a good Slot 1 mobo that lets me overclock a bit? __________________ Core 2 Duo E6600 \| 2GB Corsair XMS2 \| eVGA 7900GS 320GB SATAII \| Antec Sonata II \| Antec 450W Sony XBRITE 17" LCD \| Logitech G5 Mouse

May 30th, 2004	#30 (permalink)
Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,958	I'd reccomend an ASUS P3B-F, which is what I'm using for my Pentium III 500 Slot 1. Ah... the PIII 500... with 512Kb L2 Cache. King processor back in the day... __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.00GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 6MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5Q Deluxe, Intel P45 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.