Finally A New Computer

April 1st, 2004

Well I have been gone for a while because I was aching to get a new computer, its not that great but it is a huge upgrade from my old one. See my dad got a new laptop so he gave me his computer, It runs on an athlon at 600 mhz, it's got an ATI ALL IN WONDER 9200, which i think is pretty good since it supports DirectX 9. It has a CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER 24 bit pci sound card. It has 5 usb's, It has 6 expansion agp and pci slots. but the best part is that I get my dads games two which include max payne, call of duty, Battlefield 1942 and secret weapons of world war II and About 35+ other games!!! So what do you guys think It it a good okay or bad deal. and remember Im sort of a noob wen it comes to computers.

**Chrono Archangel** · April 1st, 2004

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Originally Posted by Scione

Well I have been gone for a while because I was aching to get a new computer, its not that great but it is a huge upgrade from my old one. See my dad got a new laptop so he gave me his computer, It runs on an athlon at 600 mhz, it's got an ATI ALL IN WONDER 9200, which i think is pretty good since it supports DirectX 9. It has a CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER 24 bit pci sound card. It has 5 usb's, It has 6 expansion agp and pci slots. but the best part is that I get my dads games two which include max payne, call of duty, Battlefield 1942 and secret weapons of world war II and About 35+ other games!!! So what do you guys think It it a good okay or bad deal. and remember Im sort of a noob wen it comes to computers.

well it aint top of the line but if he's giving it to you then TAKE IT

the 9200 is a DX8.1 card IIRCnot a 9.0. and i doubt you have 6 AGP's :P

you got some awesome games

April 1st, 2004

No it says on the back of the box that it supports DX9

**cooliscool** · April 1st, 2004

It supports it but it isn't "compliant", meaning it doesn't support the extra features of DX9. Hell, I've yet to find any videocard which doesn't "support" DX9. The 9200 is comlpliant with DX8.1 features (I.E. Pixel Shader 1.1 as opposed to DX9 Pixel Shader 2.0).

BTW, Hey Saman. That Athlon 600 is kinda crap.. err, really really crap.. but if it works, hey, more power to ya.

chillypacman · April 1st, 2004

I have a cpu 33 mhz faster and a card that is like well lets just say saying its only 1/1000th of your is a little kind.

April 1st, 2004

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Originally Posted by cooliscool

It supports it but it isn't "compliant", meaning it doesn't support the extra features of DX9. Hell, I've yet to find any videocard which doesn't "support" DX9. The 9200 is comlpliant with DX8.1 features (I.E. Pixel Shader 1.1 as opposed to DX9 Pixel Shader 2.0).

BTW, Hey Saman. That Athlon 600 is kinda crap.. err, really really crap.. but if it works, hey, more power to ya.

Dude seriously, Dont be that way, and shadup, A free Athlon 600 is pretty damn good.

**cooliscool** · April 1st, 2004

Free is good. I know that. I'm just trying to tell him it isn't as good as he thinks.

We go to school together cwissy. I talk to him every day anyway.

**cooliscool** · April 1st, 2004

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Originally Posted by chillypacman

I have a cpu 33 mhz faster and a card that is like well lets just say saying its only 1/1000th of your is a little kind.

Your celeron 633 is nowhere near as powerful as that athlon 600.

**hushypushy** · April 1st, 2004

i think i can do calculations in my head faster than a celeron 633

Gamer1 · April 1st, 2004

Don't diss the 633Mhz celeron, sure it has the power of around a 400Mhz p2, but we can't hold that against it now can we

.

*looking at my 633Mhz emachine... sure it was a piece of crap when it comes to performance... but as an internet machine... it was okay... lol

hey, as long as it can play the games fine, more power to you, i myself am thinking of upgrading the video card of my 1ghz athlon to a 9200 instead of my current gf4mx pci on that machine, as the 9200 is only $55, and performs 2x faster than my gf4mx pci version... as benchmarks show (if i had the gf4 mx with the 128-bit bus and agp, i wouldn't need an upgrade as it would be just as fast as the 9200)

good pc, but how well does it play ut2k4? my 1ghz athlon plays ut2k3 fine... but chokes in ut2k4

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chillypacman · April 2nd, 2004

>Your celeron 633 is nowhere near as powerful as that athlon 600.

In terms of raw clock speed it is...

BTW don't exaggerate its not nowhere near as powerful but it is exceptionally more powerful in terms of cache and the like.

**hushypushy** · April 2nd, 2004

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Originally Posted by chillypacman

In terms of raw clock speed it is...

man, if that was true, than SzL's celeron at 3.4 could've CRUSHED n_w95482/Reichfuher's Athlon XP's at 2200 mhz right? mhz are everything, of course!

chillypacman · April 2nd, 2004

>man, if that was true, than SzL's celeron at 3.4 could've CRUSHED n_w95482/Reichfuher's Athlon XP's at 2200 mhz right? mhz are everything, of course!

THen why is it that the bloody pentium cpu's are in competition with athlon cpu's considering that lets say a pentium four running at 3.2 ghz and an athlon running at 3200xp+ have different clock speeds? in mhz?

Andrew Hruska · April 2nd, 2004

/me whispers on the sidelines

I just love watching the mess's people get into

Aneeways, i'd say thats one nice computer, for free. It's not too shabby for the price, and even though the CPU isn't the most powerful silicon around, for free you really shouldn't complain.

**n_w95482** · April 2nd, 2004

Because Athlon processors get more instructions processed per clock cycle than Pentium 4's (something like 9 instructions per cycle with the AXP vs 6 with the P4). P4's make up for this discrepancy by higher clock speeds. BTW, I believe an AXP 3200+ is about on par with a 2.8 GHz P4, not a 3.2.

chillypacman · April 2nd, 2004

>Aneeways, i'd say thats one nice computer, for free. It's not too shabby for the price, and even though the CPU isn't the most powerful silicon around, for free you really shouldn't complain.

Its free whadaya mean its not too shabby for the price? there is no price.

**hushypushy** · April 2nd, 2004

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Originally Posted by chillypacman

Its free whadaya mean its not too shabby for the price? there is no price.

EXACTLY. you proved yourself wrong! it's worth the price---> IE nothing. it's worth the zero dollars.

chillypacman · April 2nd, 2004

>EXACTLY. you proved yourself wrong! it's worth the price---> IE nothing. it's worth the zero dollars.

What are you going on about?

**cooliscool** · April 2nd, 2004

Chillypacman - you're a fcking retard. Do us all a favor and die.. leave, something. Raw clockspeed? LMAO. 33MHz. It performs like a 350MHz P2. Cache performance? Give me a break. Go bench your POS and report back.

Take my P3 Tualatin for example. At 1.75GHz, it could no doubt crush a 2GHz Willy.. it comes near an AthlonXP 2000+ in synthetic benches too.

Just because your **** sucks don't try and act like you know something. Fcking fool.

ka0s · April 2nd, 2004

For the record, I think they have 600mhz athlons on newegg for $19 er somethin, which would make hushy wrong

Nice PC though, wish I had graphics like that. And the Athlon ain't that great, but you take what you can get(or afford), and you can't argue with free stuff.
Awesome games too.

April 1st, 2004	#1 (permalink)
Scione Guest Posts: n/a	Finally A New Computer Well I have been gone for a while because I was aching to get a new computer, its not that great but it is a huge upgrade from my old one. See my dad got a new laptop so he gave me his computer, It runs on an athlon at 600 mhz, it's got an ATI ALL IN WONDER 9200, which i think is pretty good since it supports DirectX 9. It has a CREATIVE SOUND BLASTER 24 bit pci sound card. It has 5 usb's, It has 6 expansion agp and pci slots. but the best part is that I get my dads games two which include max payne, call of duty, Battlefield 1942 and secret weapons of world war II and About 35+ other games!!! So what do you guys think It it a good okay or bad deal. and remember Im sort of a noob wen it comes to computers.

April 1st, 2004	#4 (permalink)
cooliscool Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hyda IV Posts: 6,057	It supports it but it isn't "compliant", meaning it doesn't support the extra features of DX9. Hell, I've yet to find any videocard which doesn't "support" DX9. The 9200 is comlpliant with DX8.1 features (I.E. Pixel Shader 1.1 as opposed to DX9 Pixel Shader 2.0). BTW, Hey Saman. That Athlon 600 is kinda crap.. err, really really crap.. but if it works, hey, more power to ya. __________________ Fayt: Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8GHz @ 3.0GHz [Allendale] (1333MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel kit @ 800MHz 4-3-3-10, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC (650/1600), Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi nVidia 650i mobo, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2 (NCQ), 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2 (NCQ), Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16X DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 GG Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Watter Wetter), T.I.M - Arctic Silver Ceramique Last edited by cooliscool; April 1st, 2004 at 02:55.

April 1st, 2004	#7 (permalink)
cooliscool Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hyda IV Posts: 6,057	Free is good. I know that. I'm just trying to tell him it isn't as good as he thinks. We go to school together cwissy. I talk to him every day anyway. __________________ Fayt: Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8GHz @ 3.0GHz [Allendale] (1333MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel kit @ 800MHz 4-3-3-10, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC (650/1600), Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi nVidia 650i mobo, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2 (NCQ), 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2 (NCQ), Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16X DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 GG Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Watter Wetter), T.I.M - Arctic Silver Ceramique

April 1st, 2004	#9 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	i think i can do calculations in my head faster than a celeron 633 __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

April 1st, 2004	#10 (permalink)
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,237	Don't diss the 633Mhz celeron, sure it has the power of around a 400Mhz p2, but we can't hold that against it now can we . looking at my 633Mhz emachine... sure it was a piece of crap when it comes to performance... but as an internet machine... it was okay... lol hey, as long as it can play the games fine, more power to you, i myself am thinking of upgrading the video card of my 1ghz athlon to a 9200 instead of my current gf4mx pci on that machine, as the 9200 is only $55, and performs 2x faster than my gf4mx pci version... as benchmarks show (if i had the gf4 mx with the 128-bit bus and agp, i wouldn't need an upgrade as it would be just as fast as the 9200) good pc, but how well does it play ut2k4? my 1ghz athlon plays ut2k3 fine... but chokes in ut2k4 . __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED* @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

April 1st, 2004	#3 (permalink)
Scione Guest Posts: n/a	No it says on the back of the box that it supports DX9

April 1st, 2004	#5 (permalink)
chillypacman Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia - Perth Posts: 1,057	I have a cpu 33 mhz faster and a card that is like well lets just say saying its only 1/1000th of your is a little kind.

April 2nd, 2004	#11 (permalink)
chillypacman Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia - Perth Posts: 1,057	>Your celeron 633 is nowhere near as powerful as that athlon 600. In terms of raw clock speed it is... BTW don't exaggerate its not nowhere near as powerful but it is exceptionally more powerful in terms of cache and the like.

April 2nd, 2004	#13 (permalink)
chillypacman Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia - Perth Posts: 1,057	>man, if that was true, than SzL's celeron at 3.4 could've CRUSHED n_w95482/Reichfuher's Athlon XP's at 2200 mhz right? mhz are everything, of course! THen why is it that the bloody pentium cpu's are in competition with athlon cpu's considering that lets say a pentium four running at 3.2 ghz and an athlon running at 3200xp+ have different clock speeds? in mhz?

April 2nd, 2004	#14 (permalink)
Andrew Hruska Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: somewhere Posts: 1,121	/me whispers on the sidelines I just love watching the mess's people get into Aneeways, i'd say thats one nice computer, for free. It's not too shabby for the price, and even though the CPU isn't the most powerful silicon around, for free you really shouldn't complain.

April 2nd, 2004	#15 (permalink)
n_w95482 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,684	Because Athlon processors get more instructions processed per clock cycle than Pentium 4's (something like 9 instructions per cycle with the AXP vs 6 with the P4). P4's make up for this discrepancy by higher clock speeds. BTW, I believe an AXP 3200+ is about on par with a 2.8 GHz P4, not a 3.2. __________________ Main PC: DFI LAN Party nF4 SLI-DR Expert w/406-bta BIOS, AMD Opteron 165 (CCBBE 0615 EPMW) @ 3 GHz (334x9), 1.55v w/D-Tek Fuzion WB; 2x1 GB OCZ PC4000 EB Plats @ 250 MHz, 3-3-2-8, 3:4, 2.7v; ATi Radeon X1900XT 512 MB @ 668/855 w/DD Tyee WB, 150 GB WD Raptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), SB Audigy 2 ZS, 700w OCZ GameXStream, CM Stacker 810, Windows XP Pro

April 2nd, 2004	#16 (permalink)
chillypacman Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia - Perth Posts: 1,057	>Aneeways, i'd say thats one nice computer, for free. It's not too shabby for the price, and even though the CPU isn't the most powerful silicon around, for free you really shouldn't complain. Its free whadaya mean its not too shabby for the price? there is no price.

April 2nd, 2004	#18 (permalink)
chillypacman Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia - Perth Posts: 1,057	>EXACTLY. you proved yourself wrong! it's worth the price---> IE nothing. it's worth the zero dollars. What are you going on about?

April 2nd, 2004	#19 (permalink)
cooliscool Moderator Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Hyda IV Posts: 6,057	Chillypacman - you're a fcking retard. Do us all a favor and die.. leave, something. Raw clockspeed? LMAO. 33MHz. It performs like a 350MHz P2. Cache performance? Give me a break. Go bench your POS and report back. Take my P3 Tualatin for example. At 1.75GHz, it could no doubt crush a 2GHz Willy.. it comes near an AthlonXP 2000+ in synthetic benches too. Just because your ** sucks don't try and act like you know something. Fcking fool. __________________ Fayt:** Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 1.8GHz @ 3.0GHz [Allendale] (1333MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel kit @ 800MHz 4-3-3-10, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC (650/1600), Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi nVidia 650i mobo, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2 (NCQ), 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2 (NCQ), Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16X DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 GG Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Watter Wetter), T.I.M - Arctic Silver Ceramique

April 2nd, 2004	#20 (permalink)
ka0s Kancho Assassin Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 1,035	For the record, I think they have 600mhz athlons on newegg for $19 er somethin, which would make hushy wrong Nice PC though, wish I had graphics like that. And the Athlon ain't that great, but you take what you can get(or afford), and you can't argue with free stuff. Awesome games too. __________________ Shuttle SN41G2 XPC 1.6 AMD Duron -=- 512MB PC 2700 OCZ Memory 80GB WE Caviar SE -=- Liteon 48x24x48 CD-RW Optical Drive Abit 9600XT VIVO

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