Computer of the futur: Superconducting at the speed of light

[chillypacman]

Ever heard of a super conductor? At first it ran at -400 deg celcius now it runs t -160 deg celcius. This is when none of the atoms within vibrate thus info is transferred with no resistance. Ever wondered why your pc runs better cooler? because the atoms its composed of are vibrating less thus the electrons (that take the stuff around) can move with less resistsance. THis is just you hardware but what about wiring? Well it will be replcaed from copper to light speed of light that is unless they figure out a way to create a superconducting wire. Pretty cool huh? I remember once someone managed to reak out 800mhz more speed from a intel p4 running at 1.2 GHZ by pouring liquid nitrogen on it. If it where superconducting material we would be getting it running at atleast twice the stock speed with no heat sink.

Cool or not? How long do you think it will take to happen?

[andré]

not exactly on topic, but this reminds me of a topic we briefly covered in my organic chem class involving the future of conductors, using delocalized pi systems (conjugated double bonds down a carbon chain) as the next big thing. conductor on the atomic scale...now thats badass.

[chillypacman]

yeah its pretty cool huh? I got a jist of it in my chem class (we where doing the properties of metals) with a side of quantam physics not too much just a quick picture the teacher drew on the board. (curses thats hard)

[Neo-Zacar]

overclocking is easier because liquid nitrogen prevents overheating.... it isn't related to superconductors also.. -400c? you mean -273c?

but otherwise, yeah, really cool computer would be really cool.

[wise_evian]

lol -400c thats like -movement of atoms lol.. anyway I was wondering how much data can be transfered wirelessly from point a to point b. at a distance of no more than 6 inches...think about that for a second... lets say the come up with a way to push out 50mb/sec.. they could do away with I/O cables etc.. and if my theory is correct the additional space would create a better air flow thus cooling a system down. Of course like i said i dont know any wireless equipment that can dish out that kind of bandwidth but 6 inches isnt far so.. maybe btw according to my info.. nobody has actually hit the absolute zero mark in labs... they have come extremly close though. peace.

[chillypacman]

>nobody has actually hit the absolute zero mark in labs... they have come extremly close though. peace.

My sources (chem book) says otherwise...

I'm pretty sure cooling and overclocking are related because when oh just read my bloody thread or read this <copy,paste>

>Ever wondered why your pc runs better cooler? because the atoms its composed of are vibrating less thus the electrons (that take the stuff around) can move with less resistsance.

and by teh way absoloute zero is when the atoms don't barely viabrate...

[hushypushy]

chillypacman i am afraid you are incorrect. absolute Zero (meaning, atoms completely stop) has never been actually hit. no one has ever made the atoms completely stop...though IIRC they've gotten within like 1/100th of a degree kelvin, that aint too bad.

[chillypacman]

>chillypacman i am afraid you are incorrect. absolute Zero (meaning, atoms completely stop) has never been actually hit. no one has ever made the atoms completely stop...though IIRC they've gotten within like 1/100th of a degree kelvin, that aint too bad.

You saying my chem book has misinformation? Can you direct me with some weblinks that say otherwise?

Regardless cooling and vibration in computers and the like is probably true.

[cooliscool]

LMFAO. You're trying to say every word in a chemistry book is going to be correct?

God. I've never seen someone so oblivious in my life.

[chillypacman]

>LMFAO. You're trying to say every word in a chemistry book is going to be correct?

God. I've never seen someone so oblivious in my life.

It probably is as it was one of those special quotes. I doubt a chemist is going to right of how super conductors work and how well they work and how there being improved to work at higher temps if it doesnt?

I'm still waiting for the links if there is one from a reliable source sure thats cool maybe I just didnt understand it till then I believe my information.

[hushypushy]

alright. is Wikipedia reliable enough for you? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_zero

It can be shown from the laws of thermodynamics that the temperature can never be exactly absolute zero, this is the same principe that ensures no system may be 100% efficient, although it is possible to achieve temperatures arbitrarily close to it.

As of 2003, the lowest temperature ever achieved was 450 pK, or 4.5 ×10-10 K. This was performed by Wolfgang Ketterle and colleagues at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (A Leanhardt et al. 2003 Science 301 1513). [1]

OWNED.

[chillypacman]

Ok I'll live with that

BTW why are you making this like a way? quote:OWNED. WHere not playing cs here. REgardless I'll hvae to have a double check on that.

As a gesture of you saying I was erhem owned and cooliscools for ensulting me,

We are closer to getting super conductors running at 30 degrees celcius than sending a bunch of crazy probes to some crazy asteriod to bring it here then the probes loose there grip on the asteroid teh asteroid breaks off coems to earth at a million miles an hour then nasa decides to send a bunch of cowboy americans to go round the moon and drill a whole in it then put a nuke in that whole thne blow it up then get back to earth in time for dinner.

[hushypushy]

Originally Posted by chillypacman

We are closer to getting super conductors running at 30 degrees celcius than sending a bunch of crazy probes to some crazy asteriod to bring it here then the probes loose there grip on the asteroid teh asteroid breaks off coems to earth at a million miles an hour then nasa decides to send a bunch of cowboy americans to go round the moon and drill a whole in it then put a nuke in that whole thne blow it up then get back to earth in time for dinner.

and im closer to being the next American Idol than you are to making any sense whatsoever.

edit: the OWNED was a triumph over you, you arrogant little man, who always thinks you are right, making uninformed posts left and right. if you dont know what the crap you are talking about, dont post about it. hell, if you are going to post about it, at least make it known that you are just speculating. you make everything you post known as a FACT and when you get proven wrong you go and cry about it. give it up man.

[_hyde_]

Originally Posted by hushypushy

and im closer to being the next American Idol than you are to making any sense whatsoever.

Word...

[_hyde_]

chillypacman: if you manage to figure a way out for accelerating particles at (or beyond) the speed of light let me know... I'll be waitin'...

[chillypacman]

>edit: the OWNED was a triumph over you, you arrogant little man, who always thinks you are right,

No I don't. BTW apparently the lowest possible tem (-273 deg celcius) known as absoloute zero has been acheived but atoms have still vibrated) thus I was partially right. Curses they won't take that on a test so I fail

>chillypacman: if you manage to figure a way out for accelerating particles at (or beyond) the speed of light let me know... I'll be waitin'...

some crazy scientist (not sure could be huygen) came up with a theory that nothing can travel faster than the speed of sound (2.99 something something *10^8) and so far no one has.

I can't go i depth (my physics book was moire focussed on huygens principle of light travelling in waves)

Edit: this might interest you people: http://phycomp.technion.ac.il/~ira/superconductors.html

[Chrono Archangel]

Originally Posted by _hyde_

chillypacman: if you manage to figure a way out for accelerating particles at (or beyond) the speed of light let me know... I'll be waitin'...

last time i read, somedudes acheived that....but i dont know if it was a particle of something. I'll try to find the science magazine that talked about it (my brother gets those magazines each month. i read them when im bored and find them very interesting)

[chillypacman]

>last time i read, somedudes acheived that....but i dont know if it was a particle of something. I'll try to find the science magazine that talked about it (my brother gets those magazines each month. i read them when im bored and find them very interesting)

Not sppeding of light. I seriously doubt it. But if its true it would be pretty cool

Any hoo super conductes don't need to have absoloute zero temp to run (absoloute zero is around -273 deg celcius as stated by einstein) however super conductors still exist. I can't be stuffed waiting for you people to gas bag about how wrong I am. I should wait till you people try to insult me and crap so I can say how owned you people are but since we are not playing cs and I'm such a nice person <not> here are some links and quotes:

http://www.chinagate.com.cn/english/462.htm

Scientists from the Hong Kong University of Science and Technology discovered that at

temperatures below 15 degrees Celsius [5 degrees Fahrenheit], a carbon nanotube,

zero-point-four nanometers in diameter, is super conductive.

http://inventors.about.com/library/i...conductors.htm

There are different types of superconductors. 'Classical superconductors' were

invented in 1911 by Dutch physicist, Heike Kammerlingh Onnes, when these superconductors are

cooled, they act as a perfect conductors with no resistance. These elements include Cu, Ag,

Pb, and Sn, among others.

http://www.zetatalk.com/science/s20.htm this is a bit interesting as he says

Are we aware of super conducting material that can operate at room temperature? Of

course, but it would do mankind little good as the materials exist on worlds not compatible

with Earth. The substances would either not remain in a pure state here, or explode or

rapidly burn, or poison the Earth when they escaped their bounds as they inevitably

would

[n_w95482]

I thought I heard about scientists sending a signal at roughly 4 times the speed of light. They sent some Beethoven song to test it. I think it happened a year or two ago. I can't quite remember where I heard about it, it might have been on Yahoo. If this isn't true, please correct me .

[chillypacman]

Originally Posted by n_w95482

I thought I heard about scientists sending a signal at roughly 4 times the speed of light. They sent some Beethoven song to test it. I think it happened a year or two ago. I can't quite remember where I heard about it, it might have been on Yahoo. If this isn't true, please correct me .

There seams to be claims but no verification here are two links for your reading

for some reason this link doesnt seem to be as nice as it said originally on the search page

continue my search here:
http://web.ask.com/web?q=has+the+spe...%3F&o=0&qsrc=0

http://www.lns.cornell.edu/spr/2003-02/msg0048774.html

"Scientists claim to break the speed of light"
http://www.space.com/scienceastronom..._c_000719.html

THis is a nice interesting article I recommend you read it if you are interested int he speed of light:
http://www.science-spirit.org/articl...fm?item_id=305