Ati 9200 or nVIDIA 5200

Mauros Web · March 18th, 2004

Finally ATIs arrived at a good price here, Getting one would be nice they are cheaper than nVIDIA. 9200 @ U$D74 128-bit DDR, 5200 @ U$D89 128-bit DDR. From what I´ve heard ATI gets like 3000 more points in 3dmark2001 and has pixel shaders. Will new games support this card??? Are Pixel Shaders good in this card??? Is DX 9.0 compliant???

I want to play Prince of Persia: The sands of time but it requires pixel shaders and GF4 MX is not supported...

What do u think???

**Chrono Archangel** · March 18th, 2004

9200 isnt a Directx 9 card IIRC so Pixel Shaders shouldnt work...

**hushypushy** · March 18th, 2004

the 5200 is too slow of a card to use shaders....but the 9200 is just plain crappy.

if you want pixel shaders you are not going to get it on a budget, yet.

**Kane** · March 18th, 2004

The 9200 can do pixel shaders. It's not as capable as my old geForce 3, but my old machine could run PoP:SoT in 1024x768 with virtualy no slowdown.

**Chrono Archangel** · March 18th, 2004

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Originally Posted by Kane-Sama

The 9200 can do pixel shaders. It's not as capable as my old geForce 3, but my old machine could run PoP:SoT in 1024x768 with virtualy no slowdown.

me thought DX8 cards couldnt do PS... well thx for clearing that up

**n_w95482** · March 18th, 2004

DX8 cards can do pixel shaders, just not PS 2.0

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**Demigod** · March 18th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by hushypushy

the 5200 is too slow of a card to use shaders....but the 9200 is just plain crappy.

if you want pixel shaders you are not going to get it on a budget, yet.

I don't know about that. The pixel shader units on the Radeon 9000 series of cards are pretty powerful. My old Radeon 9000 Pro got only half the 3D marks as ChrisRay's GF4 Ti 4200 but its pixel shader scores were almost the same. Plus the 5200 and 9200 can do DX8 pixel shaders just fine.

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Originally Posted by Chrono Archange

me thought DX8 cards couldnt do PS... well thx for clearing that up

Pixel shaders were originally introduced with DirectX 8, and it's what made it so different from the previous versions. Unfortunately it never really caught on, as programming for it was limited and difficult.

Kazuya Mishima · March 18th, 2004

You will get a good performance in that game since the 5200 is like the geforce3 and it can play it just fine. The 9200 its the same too.
The pixel shaders that this game and other games of that date use are the dx8 version not the ps 2.0 present in dx 9.

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Mauros Web aka MsExPaNsIoN Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mendoza, Argentina Posts: 267	Ati 9200 or nVIDIA 5200 Finally ATIs arrived at a good price here, Getting one would be nice they are cheaper than nVIDIA. 9200 @ U$D74 128-bit DDR, 5200 @ U$D89 128-bit DDR. From what I´ve heard ATI gets like 3000 more points in 3dmark2001 and has pixel shaders. Will new games support this card??? Are Pixel Shaders good in this card??? Is DX 9.0 compliant??? I want to play Prince of Persia: The sands of time but it requires pixel shaders and GF4 MX is not supported... What do u think??? __________________ MotherBoard: ASRock K7S41GX \| Processor: Athlon XP 1900+ (1.62ghz) \| Mouse: Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical \| RAM: Samsung 256mb DDR333 \| Video: XFX GeForce FX5200 128mb DDR \| Sound: C-Media AC97 5.1 \| CD reader: BenQ 56x \| CD recorder: Samsung 52x24x52x \| HD: 60gb \| OS: Windows XP Professional SP1 \| Display: Samsung SyncMaster 550v \| TV Tuner: Lifeview Flyvideo 2000 / Philips SAA7130 w/ remote control \| Speedy @DSL Connection 256K 32kb (download) / 16kb (upload) \|

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Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	The 9200 can do pixel shaders. It's not as capable as my old geForce 3, but my old machine could run PoP:SoT in 1024x768 with virtualy no slowdown. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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Kazuya Mishima The seeker of perfection Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suing somebody Posts: 3,061	You will get a good performance in that game since the 5200 is like the geforce3 and it can play it just fine. The 9200 its the same too. The pixel shaders that this game and other games of that date use are the dx8 version not the ps 2.0 present in dx 9. __________________ Visit my blog in Spanish: http://andreyirra.blogspot.com

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