Refreshing rates (why to change?)

Titus03 · March 12th, 2004

Why some people changes their refresfing rates from optimal to 60Hz or from 80Hz to 100Hz? What is the main point for changing the rate?

Player-X · March 12th, 2004

I never knew there was an admin with less than 200 posts

Actuaily it's the rate that a CRT monitor "draws" the image, the higher it is the less eye fatigue you'll have after looking at the screen for long peroids,basicly the higher the better.
What moomoomoo was talking about sounds like speedhacks not refreash rates
By the way moomoomoo does your other nick happen to be mooman?

Titus03 · March 12th, 2004

Which one is better to make games faster: lower or higher? What settings you guys are using?

Player-X · March 12th, 2004

Like I said refreash rates don't affect game speed and frame rates,that admin didn't seem to know what it is,it just changes the rate your monitor "draws" the pixles on screen set it to the highest your monitor will support

**moomoomoo** · March 12th, 2004

Pardon me, 'twas early in the morning - wasn't quite compos mentis. No, I'm not known as mooman, don't know who is.

Chinoz · March 12th, 2004

IIANM, your refresh rate is the maximum fps you can achieve.

DontBeAfraid · March 12th, 2004

I know it has to be above 60Hz if you want to use stereo vision..... Has support for that been discontinued? I thought stereo vision was the coolest thing ever for games that it worked well with. Now the new drivers dont even create a tab for it.

didamangi · March 12th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chinoz

IIANM, your refresh rate is the maximum fps you can achieve.

It does if your turn on vertical sync, otherwise refresh rate will not affect fps.

But generally you want the refresh rate to be at least 85Hz (for me anyways), lower than that I get headache after an one hour or two.

**hushypushy** · March 13th, 2004

i cant stand 60....70 is the bare minimum but even that's bad. 85 or 100 or even 120 is preferred

WindHydra · March 13th, 2004

I can see monitor flickering when it's below 75 :/

Player-X · March 14th, 2004

And so does the CRT on my other computer's then it's about 60,At least LCDs don't flicker

Chinoz · March 14th, 2004

My high school's website's background flickers on a lcd @ 75hz...and I don't know why

Player-X · March 15th, 2004

Quote:

My high school's website's background flickers on a lcd @ 75hz...and I don't know why

tell me the URL and I'll check,maybe they made an animated background to look like it's flickering

**n_w95482** · March 16th, 2004

I notice some minor flickering at 75 hz as well, but I don't think my monitor will go higher than that at 1024x768

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Edit: Just checked it, my monitor does hit 85 hz in 1024x768. The small amounts of flickering that were present at 75 hz is gone now, however, everything seems slightly fuzzier. I think I'll stick to 75 hz for now.

**hushypushy** · March 16th, 2004

hmm, that's odd, when i take it to 85hz at 1024x768 everyting is quite sharp

**n_w95482** · March 16th, 2004

Well I have a lower end monitor (17 inch Digiview) that I got about 3-4 years ago. Everything looks really sharp at 75 hz though.

**Razor Blade** · March 16th, 2004

I used to have things at 65 on my old one and now that I have my new one at 85 I see absolutely no difference. Maybe I'm just lucky.

**hushypushy** · March 16th, 2004

well all of my friends are like "what the hell are you talking about?!?! 60 hz? flickering?!?" some people just cant see it i guess

**DarkAurora** · March 16th, 2004

I noticed the flickering too on my old tiny 15-inch monitor when I was on the computer for a long time. Now I've gotten so used to 85hz on my 19-inch monitor that I can't stand 60hz anymore. I can stand 75hz if I want to play a game on 1600x1200 resolution. My monitor doesn't support 85hz at 1600x1200.

WindHydra · March 16th, 2004

I couldn't see monitors flickering at 60 before too... try increasing to 75 or higher, then back to 60 and you will be able to see it

March 12th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
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March 12th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
Titus03 Advent yourself Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: ? (In PAL-area) Posts: 722	Which one is better to make games faster: lower or higher? What settings you guys are using? __________________ - SYSTEM SPECIFICATIONS: ---------------------------------- Intel Core2 Duo E8400 @3.00GHz \|\| ASUS Commando 2GB DDR2 800MHz RAM \|\| EVGA GeForce 8800 GTS 512Mb Corsair 620W 620HX \|\| 3x Seagate 160Gb SATAII HDD Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi XtremeMusic Windows XP Professional SP3/Ubuntu 8.04 Hardy Heron ------------------------------------------------------------------

March 12th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
Chinoz ... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Desa Park, Key Ell, Malaysia Posts: 2,301	IIANM, your refresh rate is the maximum fps you can achieve. __________________ System specs P4 2.6c \| Abit AI7 \| Radeon 9800pro \| 1024mb kingston ddr400 \| 120gb seagate sata \| 40mb wd \| And all the minor bits and pieces 3dMark2001SE

March 13th, 2004	#9 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	i cant stand 60....70 is the bare minimum but even that's bad. 85 or 100 or even 120 is preferred __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

March 13th, 2004	#10 (permalink)
WindHydra Wind, Life, Eternity Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: El Monte Posts: 1,331	I can see monitor flickering when it's below 75 :/ __________________ My deviantArt :bounce: We ran like the wind, under the cerulean skies...

March 12th, 2004	#2 (permalink)
Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,110	I never knew there was an admin with less than 200 posts Actuaily it's the rate that a CRT monitor "draws" the image, the higher it is the less eye fatigue you'll have after looking at the screen for long peroids,basicly the higher the better. What moomoomoo was talking about sounds like speedhacks not refreash rates By the way moomoomoo does your other nick happen to be mooman?

March 12th, 2004	#4 (permalink)
Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,110	Like I said refreash rates don't affect game speed and frame rates,that admin didn't seem to know what it is,it just changes the rate your monitor "draws" the pixles on screen set it to the highest your monitor will support

March 12th, 2004	#5 (permalink)
moomoomoo Administrator Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: UK Posts: 843	Pardon me, 'twas early in the morning - wasn't quite compos mentis. No, I'm not known as mooman, don't know who is.

March 12th, 2004	#7 (permalink)
DontBeAfraid Banned Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 142	I know it has to be above 60Hz if you want to use stereo vision..... Has support for that been discontinued? I thought stereo vision was the coolest thing ever for games that it worked well with. Now the new drivers dont even create a tab for it.

March 14th, 2004	#11 (permalink)
Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,110	And so does the CRT on my other computer's then it's about 60,At least LCDs don't flicker

March 14th, 2004	#12 (permalink)
Chinoz ... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Desa Park, Key Ell, Malaysia Posts: 2,301	My high school's website's background flickers on a lcd @ 75hz...and I don't know why __________________ System specs P4 2.6c \| Abit AI7 \| Radeon 9800pro \| 1024mb kingston ddr400 \| 120gb seagate sata \| 40mb wd \| And all the minor bits and pieces 3dMark2001SE

March 16th, 2004	#14 (permalink)
n_w95482 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,684	I notice some minor flickering at 75 hz as well, but I don't think my monitor will go higher than that at 1024x768 . Edit: Just checked it, my monitor does hit 85 hz in 1024x768. The small amounts of flickering that were present at 75 hz is gone now, however, everything seems slightly fuzzier. I think I'll stick to 75 hz for now. __________________ Main PC: DFI LAN Party nF4 SLI-DR Expert w/406-bta BIOS, AMD Opteron 165 (CCBBE 0615 EPMW) @ 3 GHz (334x9), 1.55v w/D-Tek Fuzion WB; 2x1 GB OCZ PC4000 EB Plats @ 250 MHz, 3-3-2-8, 3:4, 2.7v; ATi Radeon X1900XT 512 MB @ 668/855 w/DD Tyee WB, 150 GB WD Raptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), SB Audigy 2 ZS, 700w OCZ GameXStream, CM Stacker 810, Windows XP Pro

March 16th, 2004	#15 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	hmm, that's odd, when i take it to 85hz at 1024x768 everyting is quite sharp __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

March 16th, 2004	#16 (permalink)
n_w95482 Administrator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: California Posts: 4,684	Well I have a lower end monitor (17 inch Digiview) that I got about 3-4 years ago. Everything looks really sharp at 75 hz though. __________________ Main PC: DFI LAN Party nF4 SLI-DR Expert w/406-bta BIOS, AMD Opteron 165 (CCBBE 0615 EPMW) @ 3 GHz (334x9), 1.55v w/D-Tek Fuzion WB; 2x1 GB OCZ PC4000 EB Plats @ 250 MHz, 3-3-2-8, 3:4, 2.7v; ATi Radeon X1900XT 512 MB @ 668/855 w/DD Tyee WB, 150 GB WD Raptor, 4x500 GB WD RE2 (RAID 10), SB Audigy 2 ZS, 700w OCZ GameXStream, CM Stacker 810, Windows XP Pro

March 16th, 2004	#17 (permalink)
Razor Blade Locked and Loaded Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I AM CANADIAN! Posts: 12,030	I used to have things at 65 on my old one and now that I have my new one at 85 I see absolutely no difference. Maybe I'm just lucky. __________________ -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Core 2 Duo T7300 2.0 GHz ● NVIDIA GeForce 8400GS ● 2GB DDR2 RAM Hitachi 120GB HD ● Dual Layer DVD+/-RW Drive ● Windows Vista Home Premium ● Dell 2007WFP LCD ● Dell XPS M1330 Laptop ● 1TB Western Digital MyBook External HD ● Logitech Z10 Speakers ● PLAYSTATION 3 --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

March 16th, 2004	#18 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	well all of my friends are like "what the hell are you talking about?!?! 60 hz? flickering?!?" some people just cant see it i guess __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

March 16th, 2004	#19 (permalink)
DarkAurora Back from the dead Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seymour, TN Posts: 3,735	I noticed the flickering too on my old tiny 15-inch monitor when I was on the computer for a long time. Now I've gotten so used to 85hz on my 19-inch monitor that I can't stand 60hz anymore. I can stand 75hz if I want to play a game on 1600x1200 resolution. My monitor doesn't support 85hz at 1600x1200.

March 16th, 2004	#20 (permalink)
WindHydra Wind, Life, Eternity Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: El Monte Posts: 1,331	I couldn't see monitors flickering at 60 before too... try increasing to 75 or higher, then back to 60 and you will be able to see it __________________ My deviantArt :bounce: We ran like the wind, under the cerulean skies...

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