GF FX 5200 64-bit X 128-bit

Mad · March 11th, 2004

Ill get a new GFX card, and the money only allows me to get a 5200.
Theres a big diference from the 64 to the 128-bit??

Mauros Web · March 11th, 2004

U better get a FX5600, With FX5200 you´ll get a little improvement since you already have a GF4. Otherwise you could get a Radeon 9600...

Mad · March 11th, 2004

I dont like ATI cards....
And the 5600 is way to expensive here, at least R$480 reais. The 5200 is around R$270~280.
And remember, 1 U$ Dollar= 3 R$ Reais..... What may seem cheap to u is too damn expensive for us.....

Badaro · March 11th, 2004

I'm not sure it's worthy upgrading from your MX440 to a FX5200. You should consider saving for a while longer and get a better card.

However, if you decide to go throught with it, beware of cards with a 64-bit bus. There's a huge performance difference to the 128-bit version.

[]s Badaro

Clements · March 11th, 2004

The 64-Bit FX 5200 is marginally faster than a GeForce4 MX 440SE (since the 440SE is also 64-Bit). The 'upgrade' wouldn't provide much difference I'm afraid. If the cards are expensive near you, I'd consider importing from the USA if you can, since it's very cheap, or saving your cash.

The 128-Bit FX 5200 is better than a GeForce4 MX 460 to put it more into perspective. The 128-Bit FX 5200 has double the bandwidth of the 64-Bit version (obviously).

[Thoughtless] · March 11th, 2004

get a better video card tha FX 5200, I have it and I'm telling ya, it's not the best video card. It's more like a bargain video card, so don't expect wonders from it. Get the FX5700. I saw it one ebay for 100 bucks (which is a total bargain) Well it's your money so u decide

Badaro · March 12th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by [Clements]

If the cards are expensive near you, I'd consider importing from the USA if you can, since it's very cheap, or saving your cash.

I also live in Brazil, and I can tell you this is only an option if you have a friend going to the US that can bring one for you. If you try to order from abroad, Shipping + Taxes will make the price skyrocket.

[]s Badaro

chillypacman · March 12th, 2004

You shouldnt hate radeon cards...

If I where you I wouldnt buy anything till PCI express video cards come out because all AGP cards will probably drop down in price when that happens... So patience is a virtue in this case.

orysyz · March 12th, 2004

Quote:

And remember, 1 U$ Dollar= 3 R$ Reais..... What may seem cheap to u is too damn expensive for us.....

Thats why I only can buy FX 5200.

ka0s · March 12th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by chillypacman

You shouldnt hate radeon cards...

If I where you I wouldnt buy anything till PCI express video cards come out because all AGP cards will probably drop down in price when that happens... So patience is a virtue in this case.

He can only afford a 5200, so he is gonna get the cash for a new mobo, proc, and PCI-E video card?
But just a Q, why do you hate ATi?

Sampah · March 12th, 2004

yeah, that's true in another hardware forum there's many people hate ATi very much, most of them spend out their money buying FX5200, I regret last time I choose MX440, better save more money and but Gforce3 ti 200, ah well...it's too late now...but I wonder how many difference in 3dmark2001 between FX5200 and MX440?

orysyz · March 12th, 2004

At least FX 5200 has pixel shader, a few games nowdays need this.

[Thoughtless] · March 12th, 2004

yes pixel shader, but SLOW

**Demigod** · March 12th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by orysyz

At least FX 5200 has pixel shader, a few games nowdays need this.

Although the FX 5200 has pixel shader 2.0 support it is too slow to utilize it. It does pixel shader 1.1 - 1.3 pretty well, but so does the Radeon 9000/9100/9200 cards.

VDDZ · March 12th, 2004

I would not suggest a GF FX 5200, not even the 128 one. I had one back in the day but I returned it because I did not think that the boost in performance from a GF2MX400(64bit) was worth $100. I got my GF4 4600(128) of ebay for $100, THAT was worth it.

Mad · March 13th, 2004

So the performance gain isnt THAT big? If not ill just keep my card.
Ill get a new Burner instead...

Badaro · March 13th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad

So the performance gain isnt THAT big? If not ill just keep my card.
Ill get a new Burner instead...

I'd say it isn't a big deal. If you want some nice improvements you should go for a FX5600 or a Radeon 9600 at least.

[]s Badaro

ka0s · March 13th, 2004

I suppose you could try an FX5500 if a 5200 is too sucky and a 5600 is too expensive.

Mad · March 13th, 2004

FX 5500??
Never heard of...

ka0s · March 13th, 2004

Here's a review I found:
http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/124/

March 11th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 2,911	GF FX 5200 64-bit X 128-bit Ill get a new GFX card, and the money only allows me to get a 5200. Theres a big diference from the 64 to the 128-bit?? __________________ [WinXP SP3] [Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2] [Athlon64 X2 3800+ @2.00Ghz] [XFX Geforce 8600GT XxX 256MB DDR3] [17" SyncMaster 753v] [Samsung SATA II HD080HJ 80GB] [Samsung SATA II HD250HJ 250GB] [Kingston 2x1GB DDR2 6400@800MHz CL6] [Samsung CDDVDW SH-S203B] [NVIDIA nForce Networking] [Realtek ALC883 @ nVIDIA MCP61]

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Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 2,911	I dont like ATI cards.... And the 5600 is way to expensive here, at least R$480 reais. The 5200 is around R$270~280. And remember, 1 U$ Dollar= 3 R$ Reais..... What may seem cheap to u is too damn expensive for us..... __________________ [WinXP SP3] [Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2] [Athlon64 X2 3800+ @2.00Ghz] [XFX Geforce 8600GT XxX 256MB DDR3] [17" SyncMaster 753v] [Samsung SATA II HD080HJ 80GB] [Samsung SATA II HD250HJ 250GB] [Kingston 2x1GB DDR2 6400@800MHz CL6] [Samsung CDDVDW SH-S203B] [NVIDIA nForce Networking] [Realtek ALC883 @ nVIDIA MCP61]

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Badaro Rosen Ritter Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil Posts: 3,394	I'm not sure it's worthy upgrading from your MX440 to a FX5200. You should consider saving for a while longer and get a better card. However, if you decide to go throught with it, beware of cards with a 64-bit bus. There's a huge performance difference to the 128-bit version. []s Badaro __________________ My old signature became obsolete and I lack imagination to make a new one.

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Clements MMP-2 Dude Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: UK Posts: 1,633	The 64-Bit FX 5200 is marginally faster than a GeForce4 MX 440SE (since the 440SE is also 64-Bit). The 'upgrade' wouldn't provide much difference I'm afraid. If the cards are expensive near you, I'd consider importing from the USA if you can, since it's very cheap, or saving your cash. The 128-Bit FX 5200 is better than a GeForce4 MX 460 to put it more into perspective. The 128-Bit FX 5200 has double the bandwidth of the 64-Bit version (obviously). __________________ PJ64 Homepage \| ZSNES Documentation Project \| bsnes Supporter

March 11th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
[Thoughtless] 3D Gamer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mars sector 11 Posts: 226	get a better video card tha FX 5200, I have it and I'm telling ya, it's not the best video card. It's more like a bargain video card, so don't expect wonders from it. Get the FX5700. I saw it one ebay for 100 bucks (which is a total bargain) Well it's your money so u decide

March 12th, 2004	#8 (permalink)
chillypacman Banned Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia - Perth Posts: 1,057	You shouldnt hate radeon cards... If I where you I wouldnt buy anything till PCI express video cards come out because all AGP cards will probably drop down in price when that happens... So patience is a virtue in this case.

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Sampah The Handsome Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Unlucky Place Posts: 881	yeah, that's true in another hardware forum there's many people hate ATi very much, most of them spend out their money buying FX5200, I regret last time I choose MX440, better save more money and but Gforce3 ti 200, ah well...it's too late now...but I wonder how many difference in 3dmark2001 between FX5200 and MX440? __________________ PROCESSOR: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ @1.8Ghz RAM: Kingstone 512MB PC3200 MOBO: ECS Nforce4 A939 VGA: Pixelview Geforce 6600GT (Golden Limited Edition) 128MB OS: WinXP pro Service pack 2

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orysyz Shooting star Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Malaysia Posts: 774	At least FX 5200 has pixel shader, a few games nowdays need this. __________________ Acer Aspire 5500, Centrino 1.73, 768Mb Ram, 80Gb HDD, ATI Mobility Radeon X700 Its Vista's voice 'wreck'gniton: Dear aunt, let's set so double the killer delete select all

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[Thoughtless] 3D Gamer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Mars sector 11 Posts: 226	yes pixel shader, but SLOW

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VDDZ Registered User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: in a box under the stairs in the corner of the basement half a block down the street from Jerry's Bait shop, You know the place. Posts: 502	I would not suggest a GF FX 5200, not even the 128 one. I had one back in the day but I returned it because I did not think that the boost in performance from a GF2MX400(64bit) was worth $100. I got my GF4 4600(128) of ebay for $100, THAT was worth it. __________________ Image made by someone at deviantART.com, I lost their name, sorry...

March 13th, 2004	#16 (permalink)
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 2,911	So the performance gain isnt THAT big? If not ill just keep my card. Ill get a new Burner instead... __________________ [WinXP SP3] [Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2] [Athlon64 X2 3800+ @2.00Ghz] [XFX Geforce 8600GT XxX 256MB DDR3] [17" SyncMaster 753v] [Samsung SATA II HD080HJ 80GB] [Samsung SATA II HD250HJ 250GB] [Kingston 2x1GB DDR2 6400@800MHz CL6] [Samsung CDDVDW SH-S203B] [NVIDIA nForce Networking] [Realtek ALC883 @ nVIDIA MCP61]

March 13th, 2004	#18 (permalink)
ka0s Kancho Assassin Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 1,035	I suppose you could try an FX5500 if a 5200 is too sucky and a 5600 is too expensive. __________________ Shuttle SN41G2 XPC 1.6 AMD Duron -=- 512MB PC 2700 OCZ Memory 80GB WE Caviar SE -=- Liteon 48x24x48 CD-RW Optical Drive Abit 9600XT VIVO

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Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 2,911	FX 5500?? Never heard of... __________________ [WinXP SP3] [Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2] [Athlon64 X2 3800+ @2.00Ghz] [XFX Geforce 8600GT XxX 256MB DDR3] [17" SyncMaster 753v] [Samsung SATA II HD080HJ 80GB] [Samsung SATA II HD250HJ 250GB] [Kingston 2x1GB DDR2 6400@800MHz CL6] [Samsung CDDVDW SH-S203B] [NVIDIA nForce Networking] [Realtek ALC883 @ nVIDIA MCP61]

March 13th, 2004	#20 (permalink)
ka0s Kancho Assassin Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: NJ, USA Posts: 1,035	Here's a review I found: http://www.guru3d.com/article/Videocards/124/ __________________ Shuttle SN41G2 XPC 1.6 AMD Duron -=- 512MB PC 2700 OCZ Memory 80GB WE Caviar SE -=- Liteon 48x24x48 CD-RW Optical Drive Abit 9600XT VIVO

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