Stick with MX420 or go with FX5200 PCI? :)

aolforbroadband · January 7th, 2004

Which is better. I feel frisky since I just recently attached a vantec iceberq cooling fan on my MX420 PCI with some ramsinks and now attained overclocked speeds of 308 MAX on the core, 210 MAX on the memory clock. Yes, indeed gaining around 800+ marks in 3dmark2001se, with MAD crazy fast FPS. :guitar:

Not bad, considering the FX5200's stock speeds are 250, and 450. Only difference is the DDR ram the FX has, and the other things like a pixel shader (right?) and other small things I have yet to find out. I just wanted to know if maybe I should take off my cooling and blow $100 on a FX5200 PCI? Or save it for a new mobo and a cheaper yet more effective AGP budget card. I'm stumped, does DDR ram REALLY improve power that much? Especially on low end cards like mine? My budget card is putting out around 3.5GB/sec bandwidth while comparable MX440se PCI's and FX's put out around 5-6GGB/sec...I just like the fact it's an FX series card

, that's why I bought my MX420, cuz it was from the GeForce4 line!

LoL my MX420 ownz, it looks so pimp now with the added cooling!

I'll post some pics later. Thanks!

Xinu0 · January 7th, 2004

5200s suck go 5600 they are the same price. And memory and core speed are not the only things to consider. EX. the 9800 and the 9600(both XT). 9600 has way higher speeds(at least in core here are the charts: http://www.ati.com/products/radeon96...o/compare.html & http://www.ati.com/products/radeon98...o/compare.html), yet much better. Anyways, you were upgrading mobo right...
Go with at least a 5600. And again, stop. Your card is not pimp.

Mine is(Oc'ed ofcourse).

RF · January 7th, 2004

SAVE YOUR MONEY AND DONT BUY CHEAP STUFF!

I know new hardware is tempting, but saving your money for something kickass will make you much more happy. The money wont burn a hole in your pocket

Xinu0 · January 7th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reichfuher

SAVE YOUR MONEY AND DONT BUY CHEAP STUFF!

I know new hardware is tempting, but saving your money for something kickass will make you much more happy. The money wont burn a hole in your pocket

Exacty! I was putting together my comp and had no idea what vidcard to buy but I needed one. I bought a filler for 6 months(my old GF4mx440 64ddr PCI), saved a bit more and boght my 96xt

.

kougaiji · January 7th, 2004

5200 Is WORTHLESS, 5600...the choice i regret by now
go for 5700 or 5800

Xinu0 · January 7th, 2004

the 58 was the "leafblower" of a card, and the 57 is overpriced IMO.

Off-Topic:Look down at the related threads. all of them are started by Szl. I laugh at him.

kougaiji · January 7th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xinu0

the 58 was the "leafblower" of a card, and the 57 is overpriced IMO.

Off-Topic:Look down at the related threads. all of them are started by Szl. I laugh at him.

he might have a hard time to decide...
but my 5600 is the worst, 325/500 clock
have you see any 5600 worse?

Xinu0 · January 7th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by kougaiji

he might have a hard time to decide...
but my 5600 is the worst, 325/500 clock
have you see any 5600 worse?

I don't know on the account I have not seen many 5600s or their clocks...
It's still a really good deal.

aolforbroadband · January 7th, 2004

LoL I'm such a n00b. I just ordered a MX440 8x PCI? DDR! for $50 off newegg. (PCI Rulez!)This will fill my gap, will I sell my old MX420

(sorry babe) on ebay for around $40-50 since it looks so pimp

This card is even pimper and ownz j00 Xin0u

I'll show you when it comes

Anyway by doing this I get about $10 more and get a DDR performance boost. No doubt that I will overclock this sucker to 320mhz core and 400mhz memory

Xinu0 · January 7th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by SzL

LoL I'm such a n00b. I just ordered a MX440 8x PCI? DDR! for $50 off newegg. (PCI Rulez!)This will fill my gap, will I sell my old MX420

(sorry babe) on ebay for around $40-50 since it looks so pimp

This card is even pimper and ownz j00 Xin0u

I'll show you when it comes

Anyway by doing this I get about $10 more and get a DDR performance boost. No doubt that I will overclock this sucker to 320mhz core and 400mhz memory

Hmm...An "8x PCI". Yes that makes sense.

Anyways, I really hope to god that you are joking. Just look at my OC.

That card you ordered is not worth that much. And I shall laigh if your other card will sell.

BTW-before any lame person crtizices, the 362 is memory and since its DDR it doubles, so really 724.

**hushypushy** · January 7th, 2004

oh man. an MX440 PCI. what a piece of dog ****. reichfuher got it alllll right with

Quote:

SAVE YOUR MONEY AND DONT BUY CHEAP STUFF!

seriously the MX440 PCI is a huge piece of crap. so is the FX5200. use this money on a mobo with AGP, even a geforce3 AGP will top the 5200 and MX440, no matter how many ramsinks and cooling and stupid crap you put on top of it. PCI sucks, no matter which way you cut it. save your money for a nice mobo...then save $100 more and get a FX5600.

Gamer1 · January 7th, 2004

http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=445

that should help you make your desicion on what video card you want to get

Xinu0 · January 7th, 2004

Well he actually said he just ordered it...

Sampah · January 7th, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by hushypushy

seriously the MX440 PCI is a huge piece of crap. so is the FX5200. use this money on a mobo with AGP, even a geforce3 AGP will top the 5200 and MX440, no matter how many ramsinks and cooling and stupid crap you put on top of it. PCI sucks, no matter which way you cut it. save your money for a nice mobo...then save $100 more and get a FX5600.

Hiks

you hurt my feelings,but anyway if there's only two choices (MX420/440 and FX5200) for me I choose FX 5200 cause it gots DirectX 9 support but if I have enough financial I'll buy FX5800 or better

but if I have enough money IF...

Xinu0 · January 7th, 2004

Aaaahhh. The 5800 will creat giant headaches for you. Buy a 9700 or save and go for 5900.And why go 5200, they range from 80-120(depending where you buy), while 5600 go for the same price range. Really now...

**hushypushy** · January 7th, 2004

i dont know man...i would stick with the MX420, the 440 and the 5200 arnet even worth it.

but you have an AGP card right? my friend has the AGP 64mb model, he likes it, it runs frozen throne for him alright

Xinu0 · January 7th, 2004

Wait, who are you referring to?

kougaiji · January 7th, 2004

YOU choose FX 5200 cause it gots DirectX 9 support ?
man forget it
5200 theoritically support DX9, but...
(there is alway a BUT,right...)
it cant run the DX9 based game well for the low performance
try a halo and you ll see
i'd never recommand 5200 for its performance
but if its price lower than 60$, it ll be worthy

Kazuya Mishima · January 7th, 2004

What i like of Szl is that he is always seeking how to get more juice of his hardware.

I was wondering something similar today: a friend of mine asked me to build him a pc. We bought all the parts and i am helping him to learn how a pc works from the inside. Tomorrow we are gonna buy the videocard but i have a question. Which should i buy? A 5200 or a radeon9200? Remember i live in Mexico and these are the more advanced cards right now. I have a geforce3 ti500 and can run even mgs2 with all maxed out but i cant seem to find another one. Which one should we buy?

kougaiji · January 7th, 2004

I would recommand 9200 if you must choose from the two.
and
yes Szl, you can play silent hill3 and pop with 5200. some game just wont run on MX series, if that help

January 7th, 2004	#1 (permalink)
aolforbroadband I am pro, lawl. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Washington D.C. Area Posts: 1,834	Stick with MX420 or go with FX5200 PCI? :) Which is better. I feel frisky since I just recently attached a vantec iceberq cooling fan on my MX420 PCI with some ramsinks and now attained overclocked speeds of 308 MAX on the core, 210 MAX on the memory clock. Yes, indeed gaining around 800+ marks in 3dmark2001se, with MAD crazy fast FPS. :guitar: Not bad, considering the FX5200's stock speeds are 250, and 450. Only difference is the DDR ram the FX has, and the other things like a pixel shader (right?) and other small things I have yet to find out. I just wanted to know if maybe I should take off my cooling and blow $100 on a FX5200 PCI? Or save it for a new mobo and a cheaper yet more effective AGP budget card. I'm stumped, does DDR ram REALLY improve power that much? Especially on low end cards like mine? My budget card is putting out around 3.5GB/sec bandwidth while comparable MX440se PCI's and FX's put out around 5-6GGB/sec...I just like the fact it's an FX series card , that's why I bought my MX420, cuz it was from the GeForce4 line! LoL my MX420 ownz, it looks so pimp now with the added cooling! I'll post some pics later. Thanks! __________________ Core 2 Duo E6600 \| 2GB Corsair XMS2 \| eVGA 7900GS 320GB SATAII \| Antec Sonata II \| Antec 450W Sony XBRITE 17" LCD \| Logitech G5 Mouse

January 7th, 2004	#2 (permalink)
Xinu0 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Folsom, California Posts: 948	5200s suck go 5600 they are the same price. And memory and core speed are not the only things to consider. EX. the 9800 and the 9600(both XT). 9600 has way higher speeds(at least in core here are the charts: http://www.ati.com/products/radeon96...o/compare.html & http://www.ati.com/products/radeon98...o/compare.html), yet much better. Anyways, you were upgrading mobo right... Go with at least a 5600. And again, stop. Your card is not pimp. Mine is(Oc'ed ofcourse). __________________ blog AMD AtholonXP 2600+ 512mb DDR333 Kingston Soyo Dragon Lite mobo(KT400) ATI 9600XT @ 571.5/357.5 80GB WD 7200rpm 8mbcache 19-inch ViewSonic PS790 CRT DVD-ROM Last edited by Xinu0; January 7th, 2004 at 04:45.

January 7th, 2004	#3 (permalink)
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,594	SAVE YOUR MONEY AND DONT BUY CHEAP STUFF! I know new hardware is tempting, but saving your money for something kickass will make you much more happy. The money wont burn a hole in your pocket __________________

January 7th, 2004	#5 (permalink)
kougaiji smile...like an angel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: sichuan,mianyang,china Posts: 549	5200 Is WORTHLESS, 5600...the choice i regret by now go for 5700 or 5800 __________________ cumpter: AMD 2500+ 512mb TNT2 32mb console: PS2

January 7th, 2004	#6 (permalink)
Xinu0 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Folsom, California Posts: 948	the 58 was the "leafblower" of a card, and the 57 is overpriced IMO. Off-Topic:Look down at the related threads. all of them are started by Szl. I laugh at him. __________________ blog AMD AtholonXP 2600+ 512mb DDR333 Kingston Soyo Dragon Lite mobo(KT400) ATI 9600XT @ 571.5/357.5 80GB WD 7200rpm 8mbcache 19-inch ViewSonic PS790 CRT DVD-ROM

January 7th, 2004	#9 (permalink)
aolforbroadband I am pro, lawl. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Washington D.C. Area Posts: 1,834	LoL I'm such a n00b. I just ordered a MX440 8x PCI? DDR! for $50 off newegg. (PCI Rulez!)This will fill my gap, will I sell my old MX420 (sorry babe) on ebay for around $40-50 since it looks so pimp This card is even pimper and ownz j00 Xin0u I'll show you when it comes Anyway by doing this I get about $10 more and get a DDR performance boost. No doubt that I will overclock this sucker to 320mhz core and 400mhz memory __________________ Core 2 Duo E6600 \| 2GB Corsair XMS2 \| eVGA 7900GS 320GB SATAII \| Antec Sonata II \| Antec 450W Sony XBRITE 17" LCD \| Logitech G5 Mouse

January 7th, 2004	#12 (permalink)
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,237	http://www.sudhian.com/showdocs.cfm?aid=445 that should help you make your desicion on what video card you want to get __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

January 7th, 2004	#13 (permalink)
Xinu0 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Folsom, California Posts: 948	Well he actually said he just ordered it... __________________ blog AMD AtholonXP 2600+ 512mb DDR333 Kingston Soyo Dragon Lite mobo(KT400) ATI 9600XT @ 571.5/357.5 80GB WD 7200rpm 8mbcache 19-inch ViewSonic PS790 CRT DVD-ROM

January 7th, 2004	#15 (permalink)
Xinu0 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Folsom, California Posts: 948	Aaaahhh. The 5800 will creat giant headaches for you. Buy a 9700 or save and go for 5900.And why go 5200, they range from 80-120(depending where you buy), while 5600 go for the same price range. Really now... __________________ blog AMD AtholonXP 2600+ 512mb DDR333 Kingston Soyo Dragon Lite mobo(KT400) ATI 9600XT @ 571.5/357.5 80GB WD 7200rpm 8mbcache 19-inch ViewSonic PS790 CRT DVD-ROM

January 7th, 2004	#16 (permalink)
hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	i dont know man...i would stick with the MX420, the 440 and the 5200 arnet even worth it. but you have an AGP card right? my friend has the AGP 64mb model, he likes it, it runs frozen throne for him alright __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

January 7th, 2004	#17 (permalink)
Xinu0 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Folsom, California Posts: 948	Wait, who are you referring to? __________________ blog AMD AtholonXP 2600+ 512mb DDR333 Kingston Soyo Dragon Lite mobo(KT400) ATI 9600XT @ 571.5/357.5 80GB WD 7200rpm 8mbcache 19-inch ViewSonic PS790 CRT DVD-ROM

January 7th, 2004	#18 (permalink)
kougaiji smile...like an angel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: sichuan,mianyang,china Posts: 549	YOU choose FX 5200 cause it gots DirectX 9 support ? man forget it 5200 theoritically support DX9, but... (there is alway a BUT,right...) it cant run the DX9 based game well for the low performance try a halo and you ll see i'd never recommand 5200 for its performance but if its price lower than 60$, it ll be worthy __________________ cumpter: AMD 2500+ 512mb TNT2 32mb console: PS2

January 7th, 2004	#19 (permalink)
Kazuya Mishima The seeker of perfection Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suing somebody Posts: 3,057	What i like of Szl is that he is always seeking how to get more juice of his hardware. I was wondering something similar today: a friend of mine asked me to build him a pc. We bought all the parts and i am helping him to learn how a pc works from the inside. Tomorrow we are gonna buy the videocard but i have a question. Which should i buy? A 5200 or a radeon9200? Remember i live in Mexico and these are the more advanced cards right now. I have a geforce3 ti500 and can run even mgs2 with all maxed out but i cant seem to find another one. Which one should we buy? __________________ Visit my blog in Spanish: http://andreyirra.blogspot.com

January 7th, 2004	#20 (permalink)
kougaiji smile...like an angel Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: sichuan,mianyang,china Posts: 549	I would recommand 9200 if you must choose from the two. and yes Szl, you can play silent hill3 and pop with 5200. some game just wont run on MX series, if that help __________________ cumpter: AMD 2500+ 512mb TNT2 32mb console: PS2

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