Best Socket 478 AGP mobo that will fit in my HP case

aolforbroadband · January 3rd, 2004

I've heard enough...The PCI 33mhz Bus ultimatly sucks...I'm crossing over to AGP land! Yay

Anyway I wanted to know what's the best mobo that will fit into the case of my HP Pavilion a305w. I know it's gotta be a smaller ATX mobo, because the back only has 4 spaces for I/O devices. Basically that means, 1 AGP slot, and 3 PCI slots is the max. I'm planning on using my current Celeron 2.7 400mhz FSB CPU, along with its cooler master HSF and 256x2 PC2700 DDR SDRAM. This case looks like putting a new mobo in will be easy, the powersupply and all the other parts are great, I just need a mini tower mobo with AGP (8x perfered) and I'll hook everything up and I should be all set! I just wanted to know if you guys knew any good ones, or if you could point me to a site that sells cheap quality mini-tower fit AGP 8x mobos(with support for 333mhz DDR

). Thanks! Here are some pics of the HP Rig just to give you an idea of what I need.

**Falcon4ever** · January 3rd, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by SzL

I've heard enough...The PCI 33mhz Bus ultimatly sucks...I'm crossing over to AGP land! Yay

Anyway I wanted to know what's the best mobo that will fit into the case of my HP Pavilion a305w. I know it's gotta be a smaller ATX mobo, because the back only has 4 spaces for I/O devices. Basically that means, 1 AGP slot, and 3 PCI slots is the max. I'm planning on using my current Celeron 2.7 400mhz FSB CPU, along with its cooler master HSF and 256x2 PC2700 DDR SDRAM. This case looks like putting a new mobo in will be easy, the powersupply and all the other parts are great, I just need a mini tower mobo with AGP (8x perfered) and I'll hook everything up and I should be all set! I just wanted to know if you guys knew any good ones, or if you could point me to a site that sells cheap quality mini-tower fit AGP 8x mobos(with support for 333mhz DDR

). Thanks! Here are some pics of the HP Rig just to give you an idea of what I need.

ever tried an mirco ATX board?
it's about 24,5 x 24,5 cm big...
I'm sure when you type it in google you will find something...

http://www.baber.com/motherboards/pc...mu_v_5.0_a.htm ...

aolforbroadband · January 3rd, 2004

Nah this is the board it came with. I just need some help finding the best socket 478 AGP 8x micro ATX mobo for the best price.

op3n_skill · January 3rd, 2004

If you want, there is the Asus P4R800-VM (ATI Chipset), with Integrated ATI Radeon 9100 Graphics (Pixel shaders!), Prescott support, Dual Channel memory controller and in a Micro-ATX Form Factor...
All under $100(IIRC, $85 at newegg)..

There is also the Intel i865 Chipset, any motherboards that use this is great to use.

aolforbroadband · January 3rd, 2004

Yeah I saw that Asus ATi mobo, looks sweet, are ATIs chipsets any good?

op3n_skill · January 3rd, 2004

Umm.. a bit premature IMO... Like the Nforce in it's early days...
Get something like Intel's i865s....

**Yeloazndevil** · January 3rd, 2004

just buy a new case

l3illyl3ob · January 3rd, 2004

besides, the radeon 9100 isn't anything remarkable. your current card is probably better than it, considering it's also integrated which means shared ram. The intel chipsets are usually the best chipsets for pentium processors.

and also, as yeloazndevil said, decent cases run for 40 bucks, one of those can mean a world's difference when you're using a tiny crapper case.

aolforbroadband · January 3rd, 2004

No, the HP case is pretty sweet, and I'm not willing to shell out $40 for something I dont need

Xinu0 · January 3rd, 2004

You might want to for the extra space for cooling.

op3n_skill · January 3rd, 2004

>>besides, the radeon 9100 isn't anything remarkable. your current card is probably better than it, considering it's also integrated which means shared ram.

Erm.. he has a GF 4MX.. It has no real Pixel Shaders unlike the R9100(R8500). It would be a benefit if he can get a bit more for less.. also he has 512mb of memory, he can add another stick, go dual channel and get a boost...

But of course this is true:
>>The intel chipsets are usually the best chipsets for pentium processors.

Anyways, just get a whole new computer IMO...
Watch the deals at Dell, They had a deal on a whole P4C computer for 400+...

aolforbroadband · January 3rd, 2004

Quote:

Anyways, just get a whole new computer IMO...
Watch the deals at Dell, They had a deal on a whole P4C computer for 400+...

That's what I'm trying to avoid. I got this less than 2 months ago and all the parts are fine, all I want is to switch the micro ATX mobo with an AGP micro mobo

I don't have alot of money to go buying new computers every week

Xinu0 · January 3rd, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by SzL

That's what I'm trying to avoid. I got this less than 2 months ago and all the parts are fine, all I want is to switch the micro ATX mobo with an AGP micro mobo

I don't have alot of money to go buying new computers every week

2 months to go...?

**hushypushy** · January 3rd, 2004

huh? he said he got the computer 2 months ago which was.....2 months in the past? so he's had his computer for 2 months.

Xinu0 · January 3rd, 2004

Sorry, bout that liitle misread-Anyways, PCI is hella good isn't it?

About the case, A good one can go along way, Those HPs suck, to keep a 1.5P4 cool they had to put in a CoolerMaster and plastic air tunnel from the CPU to the back of the case. God those things are squished tight!

Kazuya Mishima · January 3rd, 2004

Just buy the mb with the radeon9100. It should perform better than your gf4mx while you can get money to get an agp videocard, and it has pixel shaders.

bahamut_2006 · January 3rd, 2004

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xinu0

Sorry, bout that liitle misread-Anyways, PCI is hella good isn't it?

About the case, A good one can go along way, Those HPs suck, to keep a 1.5P4 cool they had to put in a CoolerMaster and plastic air tunnel from the CPU to the back of the case. God those things are squished tight!

Yes they are. My friends Athlon 1.4 in the windows xp freezing thread has that exact type of case, and now we're trying to find a matx mobo that has agp and sdram and ddr support, as well as onboard video. Not havin much luck though.

Kazuya Mishima · January 3rd, 2004

I didnt have luck either. My problem wasn't the freezing but the games would crash to desktop every 2 minutes. I never found a mb with sd and ddr ram that matched my proccesor and having an agp port. I had to sell my old sdram and buy a new mb and ddr ram and im waiting right now to buy a geforce FX (my girlfriend confiscated my old gf3

)

op3n_skill · January 3rd, 2004

>>we're trying to find a matx mobo that has agp and sdram and ddr support

SiS Chipset, ECS Boards... they have it..
Although stay away from Boards with CNR/AMR... Limits you to 2 PCI slots

Violineb · January 3rd, 2004

Meh if you want a good mobo for an intel CPU then you should only consider the 865/875 chipsets. I don't know whether or not you want one with IGP gfx or not but here are some links that might help you out.

Tom's Hardware Article on IGPs 79.99 Abit microATX w/ 865g (IGP)
For the rest I just suggest you look around newegg or so.

January 3rd, 2004	#3 (permalink)
aolforbroadband I am pro, lawl. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Washington D.C. Area Posts: 1,834	Nah this is the board it came with. I just need some help finding the best socket 478 AGP 8x micro ATX mobo for the best price. __________________ Core 2 Duo E6600 \| 2GB Corsair XMS2 \| eVGA 7900GS 320GB SATAII \| Antec Sonata II \| Antec 450W Sony XBRITE 17" LCD \| Logitech G5 Mouse

January 3rd, 2004	#4 (permalink)
op3n_skill Finally!! :D Join Date: May 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,840	If you want, there is the Asus P4R800-VM (ATI Chipset), with Integrated ATI Radeon 9100 Graphics (Pixel shaders!), Prescott support, Dual Channel memory controller and in a Micro-ATX Form Factor... All under $100(IIRC, $85 at newegg).. There is also the Intel i865 Chipset, any motherboards that use this is great to use. __________________ Member of "The Pessimistics Club"

January 3rd, 2004	#5 (permalink)
aolforbroadband I am pro, lawl. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Washington D.C. Area Posts: 1,834	Yeah I saw that Asus ATi mobo, looks sweet, are ATIs chipsets any good? __________________ Core 2 Duo E6600 \| 2GB Corsair XMS2 \| eVGA 7900GS 320GB SATAII \| Antec Sonata II \| Antec 450W Sony XBRITE 17" LCD \| Logitech G5 Mouse

January 3rd, 2004	#6 (permalink)
op3n_skill Finally!! :D Join Date: May 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,840	Umm.. a bit premature IMO... Like the Nforce in it's early days... Get something like Intel's i865s.... __________________ Member of "The Pessimistics Club"

January 3rd, 2004	#9 (permalink)
aolforbroadband I am pro, lawl. Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Washington D.C. Area Posts: 1,834	No, the HP case is pretty sweet, and I'm not willing to shell out $40 for something I dont need __________________ Core 2 Duo E6600 \| 2GB Corsair XMS2 \| eVGA 7900GS 320GB SATAII \| Antec Sonata II \| Antec 450W Sony XBRITE 17" LCD \| Logitech G5 Mouse

January 3rd, 2004	#7 (permalink)
Yeloazndevil :3 Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 10,140	just buy a new case

January 3rd, 2004	#8 (permalink)
l3illyl3ob Link to the Underworld Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Detroit Posts: 1,147	besides, the radeon 9100 isn't anything remarkable. your current card is probably better than it, considering it's also integrated which means shared ram. The intel chipsets are usually the best chipsets for pentium processors. and also, as yeloazndevil said, decent cases run for 40 bucks, one of those can mean a world's difference when you're using a tiny crapper case.

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Xinu0 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Folsom, California Posts: 948	You might want to for the extra space for cooling. __________________ blog AMD AtholonXP 2600+ 512mb DDR333 Kingston Soyo Dragon Lite mobo(KT400) ATI 9600XT @ 571.5/357.5 80GB WD 7200rpm 8mbcache 19-inch ViewSonic PS790 CRT DVD-ROM

January 3rd, 2004	#11 (permalink)
op3n_skill Finally!! :D Join Date: May 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,840	>>besides, the radeon 9100 isn't anything remarkable. your current card is probably better than it, considering it's also integrated which means shared ram. Erm.. he has a GF 4MX.. It has no real Pixel Shaders unlike the R9100(R8500). It would be a benefit if he can get a bit more for less.. also he has 512mb of memory, he can add another stick, go dual channel and get a boost... But of course this is true: >>The intel chipsets are usually the best chipsets for pentium processors. Anyways, just get a whole new computer IMO... Watch the deals at Dell, They had a deal on a whole P4C computer for 400+... __________________ Member of "The Pessimistics Club"

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hushypushy the only one you've ever SEEN Join Date: May 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 21,837	huh? he said he got the computer 2 months ago which was.....2 months in the past? so he's had his computer for 2 months. __________________ Dedicated to mediocrity and repetition since 1994. 2008 "How Not to Post" guide

January 3rd, 2004	#15 (permalink)
Xinu0 Registered User Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Folsom, California Posts: 948	Sorry, bout that liitle misread-Anyways, PCI is hella good isn't it? About the case, A good one can go along way, Those HPs suck, to keep a 1.5P4 cool they had to put in a CoolerMaster and plastic air tunnel from the CPU to the back of the case. God those things are squished tight! __________________ blog AMD AtholonXP 2600+ 512mb DDR333 Kingston Soyo Dragon Lite mobo(KT400) ATI 9600XT @ 571.5/357.5 80GB WD 7200rpm 8mbcache 19-inch ViewSonic PS790 CRT DVD-ROM

January 3rd, 2004	#16 (permalink)
Kazuya Mishima The seeker of perfection Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suing somebody Posts: 3,009	Just buy the mb with the radeon9100. It should perform better than your gf4mx while you can get money to get an agp videocard, and it has pixel shaders. __________________ Visit my blog in Spanish: http://andreyirra.blogspot.com

January 3rd, 2004	#18 (permalink)
Kazuya Mishima The seeker of perfection Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Suing somebody Posts: 3,009	I didnt have luck either. My problem wasn't the freezing but the games would crash to desktop every 2 minutes. I never found a mb with sd and ddr ram that matched my proccesor and having an agp port. I had to sell my old sdram and buy a new mb and ddr ram and im waiting right now to buy a geforce FX (my girlfriend confiscated my old gf3 ) __________________ Visit my blog in Spanish: http://andreyirra.blogspot.com

January 3rd, 2004	#19 (permalink)
op3n_skill Finally!! :D Join Date: May 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,840	>>we're trying to find a matx mobo that has agp and sdram and ddr support SiS Chipset, ECS Boards... they have it.. Although stay away from Boards with CNR/AMR... Limits you to 2 PCI slots __________________ Member of "The Pessimistics Club"

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Violineb Study>Bton/Live>Bmore Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bloomington, IN/Baltimore MD Posts: 1,351	Meh if you want a good mobo for an intel CPU then you should only consider the 865/875 chipsets. I don't know whether or not you want one with IGP gfx or not but here are some links that might help you out. Tom's Hardware Article on IGPs 79.99 Abit microATX w/ 865g (IGP) For the rest I just suggest you look around newegg or so. __________________ PC1: CPU: Pentium 4 3.06 ghz - GeForce 4200 ti - 2x 256MB PC 1066 RDRAM - 120+160GB Western Digital JB PC2: Abit NF7-S -AMD Athlon XP 1700+- 2x 256MB PC2700 Kingston HyperX BH-5 chips!!!! Western Digital 120GB JB GeForce3 Laptop: Sony Vaio VGN-S360 :guitar: 3DFX Voodoo 5500 PCI-Sega Dreamcast May 1999

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