What GFX card should I get?

Mauros Web · September 28th, 2003

OK, a little time ago I was using a GF2 MX400 but then I sold it to upgrade to a new motherboard (finally DDR266!), now I´m using integrated 32 DDR card (S3 ProSavage). It runs Counter-Strike 1024x768 @ 40fps. I have to decide between a new GF2 MX400 or a GF4 MX440 DDR, Here they cost U$D 45 (GF2) and U$D59 (GF4) - GF FX5200 U$D123!!!!. So I would go for the GF4 MX440 DDR, using a 4X AGP BUS but I heard a lot of people complaining on the forums about driver issues and dets working bad on this card. Is there a big difference btw GF2 and GF4? What card should i get?

**Razor Blade** · September 28th, 2003

Well I am not too sure with the Gf4 catrds .. But the best thing to do is look at benchmarks.

www.tomshardware.com
www.hardocp.com

Those are two good ones.

Hope that helps.

zerocopy · September 28th, 2003

the mx440 would suffice even on todays current games as long as you play at low resolutions

September 28th, 2003

Driver issues with the card? Most complaints I've heard about the Geforce 4 MX is that its just not really a Geforce 4. It's drivers are pretty stable and the card is decent for the price.

Its definately better than a Geforce 2 MX anyway

Chinoz · September 28th, 2003

Radeon 9000/9100 ^^

Seta-San · September 28th, 2003

geforce4mx are simply overclocked geforce2mx cards. So with that said the geforce4mx has no more features than the geforce2mx but displays greater speed. BTW DON'T buy an ATI card.. Their drivers just plain suck and drag down system compatiblity as must games are made with nvidia to begin with and after it's done they consider the ATI scenario.

GSDragoon · September 28th, 2003

A GF4mx will play CS fine. Althoug I like AA with CS and DoD. It really helps seeing things far away.

Chinoz · September 28th, 2003

Gf4mx isn't even dx8 enabled....

>> Their drivers just plain suck and drag down system compatiblity as must games are made with nvidia to begin with and after it's done they consider the ATI scenario.
/me draws out the AirZooka v2.3 and blows Seta-san to oblivion.
You obviously have something against aTi eh? How come you don't see me complaining?

Mauros Web · September 29th, 2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chinoz

Gf4mx isn't even dx8 enabled....

>> Their drivers just plain suck and drag down system compatiblity as must games are made with nvidia to begin with and after it's done they consider the ATI scenario.
/me draws out the AirZooka v2.3 and blows Seta-san to oblivion.
You obviously have something against aTi eh? How come you don't see me complaining?

Here I just can´t get ATI cards, they don´t even exist here. Every store I had visited I asked for an ATI card and they looked at me as If i were crazy.

I can get a GF2 for U$D45, GF4 for U$D 59 or a GF FX5200 for U$D 123 (too expensive)

zerocopy · September 29th, 2003

the fx5200 are crap!

GSDragoon · September 29th, 2003

I would say try for a GF4 Ti4200, if not then the GF4 mx.

Chinoz · September 29th, 2003

>>Here I just can´t get ATI cards, they don´t even exist here. Every store I had visited I asked for an ATI card and they looked at me as If i were crazy.

Ooh okie... Then I'd go for the Gf4mx. And yeah as zerocopy said, the fx5200's are crap

Mad · September 29th, 2003

SO a gf4 ti4200 are way better than a FX 5200?
I wanna get one for playing HL-2, since its Dx9.
And i dont like ATI too, had one some time ago, their driver just a bunch of crap....

**Demigod** · September 29th, 2003

Since there aren't ATI cards available I would have to go for the GeForce 4 MX. If you don't need DX8 or 9 it's the perfect card to get and it's twice as fast as the GeForce 2 MX.

So they don't sell ATI cards there. That's funny, there are more ATI cards in TO than Nvidia ones. Personally I wouldn't touch Nvidia again as ATI has shown to offer so much more. And to think I was a devoted Nvidia fan before, lol.

op3n_skill · September 29th, 2003

A GeForce3 Ti 200/500 comes to mind.....
It's far more better than a MX card.........
And you could find one at a cheap price...

Chinoz · September 30th, 2003

>> Personally I wouldn't touch Nvidia again as ATI has shown to offer so much more. And to think I was a devoted Nvidia fan before, lol.

Yeap welcome to the wonderful world of aTi

And Mad, you wanna get a fx5200 to play hl2...?

You're kidding right? Tell me you are dude.

September 28th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
Mauros Web aka MsExPaNsIoN Join Date: May 2002 Location: Mendoza, Argentina Posts: 267	What GFX card should I get? OK, a little time ago I was using a GF2 MX400 but then I sold it to upgrade to a new motherboard (finally DDR266!), now I´m using integrated 32 DDR card (S3 ProSavage). It runs Counter-Strike 1024x768 @ 40fps. I have to decide between a new GF2 MX400 or a GF4 MX440 DDR, Here they cost U$D 45 (GF2) and U$D59 (GF4) - GF FX5200 U$D123!!!!. So I would go for the GF4 MX440 DDR, using a 4X AGP BUS but I heard a lot of people complaining on the forums about driver issues and dets working bad on this card. Is there a big difference btw GF2 and GF4? What card should i get? __________________ MotherBoard: ASRock K7S41GX \| Processor: Athlon XP 1900+ (1.62ghz) \| Mouse: Microsoft IntelliMouse Optical \| RAM: Samsung 256mb DDR333 \| Video: XFX GeForce FX5200 128mb DDR \| Sound: C-Media AC97 5.1 \| CD reader: BenQ 56x \| CD recorder: Samsung 52x24x52x \| HD: 60gb \| OS: Windows XP Professional SP1 \| Display: Samsung SyncMaster 550v \| TV Tuner: Lifeview Flyvideo 2000 / Philips SAA7130 w/ remote control \| Speedy @DSL Connection 256K 32kb (download) / 16kb (upload) \|

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September 28th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
zerocopy Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,953	Re: What GFX card should I get? the mx440 would suffice even on todays current games as long as you play at low resolutions

September 28th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Re: What GFX card should I get? Driver issues with the card? Most complaints I've heard about the Geforce 4 MX is that its just not really a Geforce 4. It's drivers are pretty stable and the card is decent for the price. Its definately better than a Geforce 2 MX anyway

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Chinoz ... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Desa Park, Key Ell, Malaysia Posts: 2,301	Re: What GFX card should I get? Radeon 9000/9100 ^^ __________________ System specs P4 2.6c \| Abit AI7 \| Radeon 9800pro \| 1024mb kingston ddr400 \| 120gb seagate sata \| 40mb wd \| And all the minor bits and pieces 3dMark2001SE

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Seta-San PCSX2ベータテスター Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Nebraska Posts: 1,390	Re: What GFX card should I get? geforce4mx are simply overclocked geforce2mx cards. So with that said the geforce4mx has no more features than the geforce2mx but displays greater speed. BTW DON'T buy an ATI card.. Their drivers just plain suck and drag down system compatiblity as must games are made with nvidia to begin with and after it's done they consider the ATI scenario. __________________

September 28th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
GSDragoon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,969	Re: What GFX card should I get? A GF4mx will play CS fine. Althoug I like AA with CS and DoD. It really helps seeing things far away. __________________ Athlon64 3400+ @10.5x250MHz, 2.625GHz \| DFI NF3 250GB 2x512 Corsair pc3200 \| BFG FX6800 OC 128MB \| X-Fi XtremeGamer

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Chinoz ... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Desa Park, Key Ell, Malaysia Posts: 2,301	Re: What GFX card should I get? Gf4mx isn't even dx8 enabled.... >> Their drivers just plain suck and drag down system compatiblity as must games are made with nvidia to begin with and after it's done they consider the ATI scenario. /me draws out the AirZooka v2.3 and blows Seta-san to oblivion. You obviously have something against aTi eh? How come you don't see me complaining? __________________ System specs P4 2.6c \| Abit AI7 \| Radeon 9800pro \| 1024mb kingston ddr400 \| 120gb seagate sata \| 40mb wd \| And all the minor bits and pieces 3dMark2001SE

September 29th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
zerocopy Banned Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,953	Re: What GFX card should I get? the fx5200 are crap!

September 29th, 2003	#11 (permalink)
GSDragoon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,969	Re: What GFX card should I get? I would say try for a GF4 Ti4200, if not then the GF4 mx. __________________ Athlon64 3400+ @10.5x250MHz, 2.625GHz \| DFI NF3 250GB 2x512 Corsair pc3200 \| BFG FX6800 OC 128MB \| X-Fi XtremeGamer

September 29th, 2003	#12 (permalink)
Chinoz ... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Desa Park, Key Ell, Malaysia Posts: 2,301	Re: What GFX card should I get? >>Here I just can´t get ATI cards, they don´t even exist here. Every store I had visited I asked for an ATI card and they looked at me as If i were crazy. Ooh okie... Then I'd go for the Gf4mx. And yeah as zerocopy said, the fx5200's are crap __________________ System specs P4 2.6c \| Abit AI7 \| Radeon 9800pro \| 1024mb kingston ddr400 \| 120gb seagate sata \| 40mb wd \| And all the minor bits and pieces 3dMark2001SE

September 29th, 2003	#13 (permalink)
Mad AKA snkmad Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Brazil, Fortaleza-Ceará Posts: 2,911	Re: What GFX card should I get? SO a gf4 ti4200 are way better than a FX 5200? I wanna get one for playing HL-2, since its Dx9. And i dont like ATI too, had one some time ago, their driver just a bunch of crap.... __________________ [WinXP SP3] [Gigabyte GA-M61PM-S2] [Athlon64 X2 3800+ @2.00Ghz] [XFX Geforce 8600GT XxX 256MB DDR3] [17" SyncMaster 753v] [Samsung SATA II HD080HJ 80GB] [Samsung SATA II HD250HJ 250GB] [Kingston 2x1GB DDR2 6400@800MHz CL6] [Samsung CDDVDW SH-S203B] [NVIDIA nForce Networking] [Realtek ALC883 @ nVIDIA MCP61]

September 29th, 2003	#14 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	Re: What GFX card should I get? Since there aren't ATI cards available I would have to go for the GeForce 4 MX. If you don't need DX8 or 9 it's the perfect card to get and it's twice as fast as the GeForce 2 MX. So they don't sell ATI cards there. That's funny, there are more ATI cards in TO than Nvidia ones. Personally I wouldn't touch Nvidia again as ATI has shown to offer so much more. And to think I was a devoted Nvidia fan before, lol. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

September 29th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
op3n_skill Finally!! :D Join Date: May 2003 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 1,840	Re: What GFX card should I get? A GeForce3 Ti 200/500 comes to mind..... It's far more better than a MX card......... And you could find one at a cheap price... __________________ Member of "The Pessimistics Club"

September 30th, 2003	#16 (permalink)
Chinoz ... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Desa Park, Key Ell, Malaysia Posts: 2,301	Re: What GFX card should I get? >> Personally I wouldn't touch Nvidia again as ATI has shown to offer so much more. And to think I was a devoted Nvidia fan before, lol. Yeap welcome to the wonderful world of aTi And Mad, you wanna get a fx5200 to play hl2...? You're kidding right? Tell me you are dude. __________________ System specs P4 2.6c \| Abit AI7 \| Radeon 9800pro \| 1024mb kingston ddr400 \| 120gb seagate sata \| 40mb wd \| And all the minor bits and pieces 3dMark2001SE

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