Why do ATI cards have poor stability/capability?

[RZetlin]

I recently got bought an ATI Radeon 9600 Pro card and this piece of junk can't even play Guilty Gear X!

Yet I have another computer with a Nvidia Geforce 2 MX and Guilty Gear X runs perfectly on that system.

This isn't the first time I had problems with ATI video cards.

I have a Pentium I with a 4 MB ATI video card and the system will sometimes give the blue screen of death. I have to go and reinstall the drivers.

Speaking about drivers, why is ATI so slow coming out with updated drivers?

Nvidia is up to version 45 and and ATI is still on version 3.

I heard that Radeon was supposed to be better than Geforce, but I am not seeing the better results! :cuss2:

BTW, why does ATI release such scant amount of video card demos while Nvidia releases a wider selection of demos!

[Red__XIII]

I have no problems playing GGX on either my Radeon 9800 Pro or my AIW Radeon.

[RZetlin]

Originally Posted by Red__XIII

I have no problems playing GGX on either my Radeon 9800 Pro or my AIW Radeon.

What ATI drivers are you using?

What OS are you using?

Which version of DirectX are you using?

What kind of sound card do you have? (Drivers?)

Since you are the only ATI user with a working GGX I really appreciate your help.

[Red__XIII]

Originally Posted by RZetlin

What ATI drivers are you using?

Omega's 2.4.78

Originally Posted by RZetlin

What OS are you using?

Windows XP

Originally Posted by RZetlin

Which version of DirectX are you using?

DirectX 9.0b

Originally Posted by RZetlin

What kind of sound card do you have? (Drivers?)

It's the onboard sound card that is on nfoce2 motherboards. I'm using version 2.45 of the nforce drivers.

This is for my computer with the 9800 Pro.

[RZetlin]

Originally Posted by Red__XIII

Omega's 2.4.78

I'm using Omega drivers 2.6.18.

Windows XP

It's running on Win98SE. But the game runs okay on my other computer with Win98SE.

DirectX 9.0b

I'm using DirectX 9.0b

It's the onboard sound card that is on nfoce2 motherboards. I'm using version 2.45 of the nforce drivers.

This is for my computer with the 9800 Pro.

I have an onboard sound card has well. It is a SoundMax 6-channel AD1985.

Hmm...the only major difference is in sound card.

[Alias]

is GGX a computer game, or emulated?

ATi cards aren't the best at emulation, GF series are better at it.

As for driver updates, nvidia has started its detonaters all the way from TNT. ATi just started catalyst from the Radeon 8500 (but was backwards compatible with most other Radeons). Also, comparing version numbers between companies on drivers is quite arbitrary and rather foolish in expecting better results than the competitor, esp when driver update numbers are released in odd increments (detonator 45.23 to detonator 51.75 for example).

[RZetlin]

Originally Posted by Alias

is GGX a computer game, or emulated?

ATi cards aren't the best at emulation, GF series are better at it.

GGX is a computer game, not emulated.

[GKort]

jesus christ i hate this driver crap and compatability crap...why cant they just make a card that works with almost everything and make that card better...omfg...

personally on this secondary machine (see sig) ePSXe has little problems running FF9, its just a bit laggy in battles, and a bit in the battle whoooooooosh

when i last had my gf4 playing on this PC it was just fine, so once my primary comp is all up and running ill see what thatll do

i think nvidia>ati because of price

[saulin]

Sorry to hear that.

I did have problems with emulation on my brother's 9800 pro while testing it.

I think is just that it's OGL support is crap though. Although Nebula2M played with so many god damn glitches too. while the GF4 or the FX works much better.

about ePSXe "off screen drawing" kills even the Radeon 9800 pro so I would not use it.

Of course this is when using max FSAA and Aniso and 2XSAI and Screen smoothing with Pete's OGL plugin.

But then again my FX uses all those settings and runs as smooth as it can be.

[RZetlin]

Red__XIII can you show me your settings for your video card please?

[Red__XIII]

Originally Posted by RZetlin

Red__XIII can you show me your settings for your video card please?

Is this what you want? Or the in-game settings?

[RZetlin]

Originally Posted by Red__XIII

Is this what you want? Or the in-game settings?

Yes, that is what I want. Of course I have to see the other tabs as well.

There are "settings" for Guilty Gear X.

[Seta-San]

i bought 2 ATI cards before. i'll never buy another.

[Red__XIII]

Originally Posted by RZetlin

Yes, that is what I want. Of course I have to see the other tabs as well.

Here's my OpenGl and compatibilty tabs, do you want any other tabs?

Originally Posted by RZetlin

There are "settings" for Guilty Gear X.

No there isn't. I must have been confused.

[caipirinha]

i hardly have any problems with my radeon 9700 pro, and guilty gear x works perfectly here.

using any drivers, windows xp, athlon xp 1700+, 768mb ram 266 ddr, onboard soundcard

[RZetlin]

To caipirinha and Red__XIII.

Did you guys have DirectX 8 installed prior to upgrading to DirectX 9?

I asked this because the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro computer never had DirectX 8 installed, just DirectX 9.

Guilty Gear X requires DirectX 8.

[Red__XIII]

Originally Posted by RZetlin

To caipirinha and Red__XIII.

Did you guys have DirectX 8 installed prior to upgrading to DirectX 9?

I asked this because the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro computer never had DirectX 8 installed, just DirectX 9.

Guilty Gear X requires DirectX 8.

No, I got my new computer after DirectX 9.0 was out so I just installed that.

[Regulus]

I say always stick with Nvidia. ATI is not as great as it is said to be, IMO.

[Cons]

i have 9500 pro and never had prob with it. maybe its ur driver,try updating it. and yeah its not really logical to compare drivers in terms of their version numbers. heck nvidia can name their new driver from det 45 into det 934 and still it wont matter coz its just a label. what we want is compatibility and improve performance. i have guilty gear, and i dont have a prob playing it on my rig. and ati's drivers are alot better now than it use to. i think both companies are trying their best to come up with good drivers.
im using cat 3.7, oh,just remembered, i couldnt play GGX on 98,but xp does fine.not sure why,maybe coz of drivers,i have a different driver in 98 and another on xp

[RZetlin]

Originally Posted by Cons

i have 9500 pro and never had prob with it. maybe its ur driver,try updating it. and yeah its not really logical to compare drivers in terms of their version numbers. heck nvidia can name their new driver from det 45 into det 934 and still it wont matter coz its just a label. what we want is compatibility and improve performance. i have guilty gear, and i dont have a prob playing it on my rig. and ati's drivers are alot better now than it use to. i think both companies are trying their best to come up with good drivers.
im using cat 3.7, oh,just remembered, i couldnt play GGX on 98,but xp does fine.not sure why,maybe coz of drivers,i have a different driver in 98 and another on xp

Did you use the same video card in 98 and XP.

If so, what driver version did you use?