The "new" FX 5600 Ultra review

May 28th, 2003

http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDc4

Note I wouldn't normally link to a hardocp review as I think the editor and chief Kyle is a moron. But this review is done by brent so it's ok.

Shows the new 5600 Ultra to be quite a heap better than the old one. Also head to AF quality.

And Pretty much sending the 9600 Pro home

D.D. · May 28th, 2003

thanx for the heads up Chrisray! I wonder how much this will cost compared to the older one..

Chinoz · May 28th, 2003

Hmm....nice overclock....kinda slow shaders....game performance ain't bad..
All in, not too bad a product from a company which screwed up every card they produced this year

Hanamichi · May 28th, 2003

No, I think the FX5800 did quite a good job at making noise.

Galway no Sora · May 28th, 2003

Noice ? Then it should be called Noise Engine 5800 Ultra :eek:

D.D. · May 28th, 2003

I see...so they're n(oise)vidia!

**Shadow Lady** · May 28th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by D.D.
thanx for the heads up Chrisray! I wonder how much this will cost compared to the older one..

same price

[edit] so, the r9500pro keeps being faster

**Demigod** · May 29th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Hate Lady
[edit] so, the r9500pro keeps being faster

As I said before, the Radeon 9500 Pro was too good for its own good.

It's good to see the GeForce FX series finally living up to expectations. It was a bumpy start but Nvidia seems to have smoothened things out.

Aleksei (St) · May 29th, 2003

for me i really prefer the 9600 than the 5600

right now ATi has my confidence

May 29th, 2003

Oh well the 5600 Ultra is faster

**DarkAurora** · May 29th, 2003

I really like how easy NVidia made it for you to overclock the card.

I asked this before in another thread but the question didn't get answered: If I were to buy one of the new 5600's, how could I tell it's a new one and not an old one?

Sampah · May 29th, 2003

hmmm... they going faster and faster, even make me more confuse if I had to choose between Radeon or Geforce.

May 29th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by DarkAurora
I really like how easy NVidia made it for you to overclock the card.

I asked this before in another thread but the question didn't get answered: If I were to buy one of the new 5600's, how could I tell it's a new one and not an old one?

Every new 5600 Ultra is a new one. The Old ultra's never made it retail There are some 256 Megabit Non ultras out there however

Sniper · May 29th, 2003

I saw a review for leadtek quadro fx2000 it kick ati firegl x1 ass quite a margin, so I believe in real life gaming of future, nvidia is world leader, and it's a better card to have for emulation side and stuff, how many emulator out there that run as good as nvidia?

Chinoz · May 29th, 2003

IIRC, the fx2000 is like aeons newer then the x1 right?

Gamer1 · May 29th, 2003

>>As I said before, the Radeon 9500 Pro was too good for its own good.

nah, nothing is too good for its own good. It was a good card but it made ATi get very little profit. And the 9600 is a cut corners card IMO.

>> It's good to see the GeForce FX series finally living up to expectations. It was a bumpy start but Nvidia seems to have smoothened things out

reminds you of the p4 doesn't it? It's only recently that p4 started to be better.

let's see a 5600Ultra is http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...alue=4638,3668 $225

while a 9600Pro is http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...alue=4808,3668 $183

and the regular 5600 is http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...alue=4637,3668 $152

i want to see just a regular benchmark comparing the 5600, 5600Ultra, and the 9600Pro. Hard to decide which videocard to get by the price/performance ratio. I still find it funny how the videocard becomes the bottleneck. truly, we need something faster...lmao.

**Demigod** · May 29th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Gamer1
nah, nothing is too good for its own good. It was a good card but it made ATi get very little profit. And the 9600 is a cut corners card IMO.

That's what I'm saying, the card was too good for its price tag. And cutting corners is really the only way to cut costs for low- and mid-range products so the 9600 is what the 9500 should have been in the first place. The only reason ATI used the 9500 Pro was to steal some market share away from Nvidia in the mid-range section so there'd be a bigger market for the 9600 and future products from ATI. It seems to have worked so far, as ATI's popularity is up significantly although the battle for videocard supremacy is far from over.

Heh, gotta wonder what's up with these re-releases of videocards (first with the 9500 Pro, then with the 5600 Ultra). It's like a rebirth or something that unlocks the full potential of the card, kinda like Neo in The Matrix, who only discovered his real powers upon his rebirth. I guess this is why some people hold out for at least the second generation of a certain card, as it fixes most of the problems in the first incarnation.

Violineb · May 29th, 2003

Or you just wait until a card is almost discontinued and you know it's as good or better than the newer cards. Like me buying a 9500pro

**Shadow Lady** · May 30th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Gamer1
i want to see just a regular benchmark comparing the 5600, 5600Ultra, and the 9600Pro. Hard to decide which videocard to get by the price/performance ratio. I still find it funny how the videocard becomes the bottleneck. truly, we need something faster...lmao.

actually, a bvetter comparing would be 5600 to the 9600pro and 5600ultra to 9500pro

May 30th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Hate Lady
actually, a bvetter comparing would be 5600 to the 9600pro and 5600ultra to 9500pro

Not really. 5600 Non Ultra is meant compete with the non pro 9600/9500 lines

and the 5600 Ultra is emant to compete with the 9500 Pro/9600 Pro line.

Have to compare price ratio for competence.

Just like the FX 5200 Ultra is kinda a joke for its price ratio. Too expensive to justify its cost/performance ratio IMO

May 28th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	The "new" FX 5600 Ultra review http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDc4 Note I wouldn't normally link to a hardocp review as I think the editor and chief Kyle is a moron. But this review is done by brent so it's ok. Shows the new 5600 Ultra to be quite a heap better than the old one. Also head to AF quality. And Pretty much sending the 9600 Pro home

May 28th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
D.D. band Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HERE Posts: 4,574	thanx for the heads up Chrisray! I wonder how much this will cost compared to the older one.. __________________ 1. Small, Cheap, Powerful - you can have only two 2. Everytime you engineer something foolproof, the world comes up with a better idiot. 3. 「学問とは虚栄である。」 The PS3 Cell Processor Explained Page, IBM Research's Introduction to Cell Multiprocessor and Cell Processor Programming Guide

May 28th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
Chinoz ... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Desa Park, Key Ell, Malaysia Posts: 2,301	Hmm....nice overclock....kinda slow shaders....game performance ain't bad.. All in, not too bad a product from a company which screwed up every card they produced this year __________________ System specs P4 2.6c \| Abit AI7 \| Radeon 9800pro \| 1024mb kingston ddr400 \| 120gb seagate sata \| 40mb wd \| And all the minor bits and pieces 3dMark2001SE

May 28th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
Galway no Sora ~¤ PanZeR ¤~ idRO Thor Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Valhalla, in Odin's throne Posts: 3,145	Noice ? Then it should be called Noise Engine 5800 Ultra :eek: __________________ Core 2 Duo 1.6 GHz «» 2048MB DDR2 RAM «» 256MB onboard Graphic Onboard Realtek High Definition Soundcard «» 160 + 40 GB SATA HDD Pioneer DVD±RW «» 15.4" Widescreen LCD «» Windows Vista Ultimate Sucks ha? Yeah, that's a laptop for sure.

May 28th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
D.D. band Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: HERE Posts: 4,574	I see...so they're n(oise)vidia! __________________ 1. Small, Cheap, Powerful - you can have only two 2. Everytime you engineer something foolproof, the world comes up with a better idiot. 3. 「学問とは虚栄である。」 The PS3 Cell Processor Explained Page, IBM Research's Introduction to Cell Multiprocessor and Cell Processor Programming Guide

May 28th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,573	No, I think the FX5800 did quite a good job at making noise.

May 29th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
Aleksei (St) In Love! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Ensenada Mexico Posts: 704	for me i really prefer the 9600 than the 5600 right now ATi has my confidence __________________

May 29th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Oh well the 5600 Ultra is faster

May 29th, 2003	#11 (permalink)
DarkAurora Back from the dead Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seymour, TN Posts: 3,735	I really like how easy NVidia made it for you to overclock the card. I asked this before in another thread but the question didn't get answered: If I were to buy one of the new 5600's, how could I tell it's a new one and not an old one?

May 29th, 2003	#12 (permalink)
Sampah The Handsome Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Unlucky Place Posts: 881	hmmm... they going faster and faster, even make me more confuse if I had to choose between Radeon or Geforce. __________________ PROCESSOR: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ @1.8Ghz RAM: Kingstone 512MB PC3200 MOBO: ECS Nforce4 A939 VGA: Pixelview Geforce 6600GT (Golden Limited Edition) 128MB OS: WinXP pro Service pack 2

May 29th, 2003	#14 (permalink)
Sniper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 460	I saw a review for leadtek quadro fx2000 it kick ati firegl x1 ass quite a margin, so I believe in real life gaming of future, nvidia is world leader, and it's a better card to have for emulation side and stuff, how many emulator out there that run as good as nvidia?

May 29th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
Chinoz ... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Desa Park, Key Ell, Malaysia Posts: 2,301	IIRC, the fx2000 is like aeons newer then the x1 right? __________________ System specs P4 2.6c \| Abit AI7 \| Radeon 9800pro \| 1024mb kingston ddr400 \| 120gb seagate sata \| 40mb wd \| And all the minor bits and pieces 3dMark2001SE

May 29th, 2003	#16 (permalink)
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,237	>>As I said before, the Radeon 9500 Pro was too good for its own good. nah, nothing is too good for its own good. It was a good card but it made ATi get very little profit. And the 9600 is a cut corners card IMO. >> It's good to see the GeForce FX series finally living up to expectations. It was a bumpy start but Nvidia seems to have smoothened things out reminds you of the p4 doesn't it? It's only recently that p4 started to be better. let's see a 5600Ultra is http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...alue=4638,3668 $225 while a 9600Pro is http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...alue=4808,3668 $183 and the regular 5600 is http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProduc...alue=4637,3668 $152 i want to see just a regular benchmark comparing the 5600, 5600Ultra, and the 9600Pro. Hard to decide which videocard to get by the price/performance ratio. I still find it funny how the videocard becomes the bottleneck. truly, we need something faster...lmao. __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

May 29th, 2003	#18 (permalink)
Violineb Study>Bton/Live>Bmore Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Bloomington, IN/Baltimore MD Posts: 1,351	Or you just wait until a card is almost discontinued and you know it's as good or better than the newer cards. Like me buying a 9500pro __________________ PC1: CPU: Pentium 4 3.06 ghz - GeForce 4200 ti - 2x 256MB PC 1066 RDRAM - 120+160GB Western Digital JB PC2: Abit NF7-S -AMD Athlon XP 1700+- 2x 256MB PC2700 Kingston HyperX BH-5 chips!!!! Western Digital 120GB JB GeForce3 Laptop: Sony Vaio VGN-S360 :guitar: 3DFX Voodoo 5500 PCI-Sega Dreamcast May 1999

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