Radeon 9800 pro quality

[Shadow Lady]

Sorry, i couldnt resist to post this just because Im really starting to enjoy my Radeon 9500 pro

so here is a pic of my new default screensaver from Radeon 9800pro's hand

[edit] stupid jpg -.-
the image is supposed to be better, even that red color is supposed to be brighter -_-

[D.D.]

Sweet! I'm thinking of getting the 9500 pro, but I don't know if I should wait until the 5900 comes out later in the year. Basically, I at least want my video card to give me good doom 3 framerates and I don't know if I can get that with my ti4200 (290/594) or a 9500pro. Can someone tell me if a 9500 pro or 9600 pro can power doom III?

[Chinoz]

Ah well I'm pretty certain it would

[Shadow Lady]

r9500pro will give u a better answer to that game

u know, the performance on the r9500pro is compared to a GF4ti4400 and sometimes to a GF4ti4600 and whit 4xFSAA and 8xAF it totally beat the GF4 cards

John Carmack, the developer of Doom III, has said that a GF 2 graphics card will be powerful enough to run it. Since a 9500 pro or a 9600 pro will totally beat a GF 2 in every respect, they should have more that enough power to display Doom III just fine.
Also, what Hate Lady says about FSAA and AF as compared to the GF cards is true. Nothing tops the Radeon line, right now, in FSAA and AF, until the GF FX 5900 arrives. That one will equal or top the Radeon line in FSAA and AF.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

[D.D.]

In no way am I questioning that a r9500pro can beat a GF4 (any ). I just want to make sure that it can run doom III with all the eye candy turned on.

Originally posted by Hate Lady
r9500pro will give u a better answer to that game

u know, the performance on the r9500pro is compared to a GF4ti4400 and sometimes to a GF4ti4600 and whit 4xFSAA and 8xAF it totally beat the GF4 cards

Yes the new revision of the Geforce FX 5600 Ultra Kanes the 9500 Pro in AF quality and speed.


Its called technology progession Also the Geforce FX 5600 benefits from the Nv30 pathway which has shown it to Kane the 9500 Pro at comparable settings.


Due to the forced precision on hte 9500 Pro, Lets not mention that the r300 line benefits from no special optimisations Aside from its DX 8.0 counterpart. It's pretty obvious where the Doom 3 engine is biased too

[felinusz]

Originally posted by D.D.
Sweet! I'm thinking of getting the 9500 pro, but I don't know if I should wait until the 5900 comes out later in the year. Basically, I at least want my video card to give me good doom 3 framerates and I don't know if I can get that with my ti4200 (290/594) or a 9500pro. Can someone tell me if a 9500 pro or 9600 pro can power doom III?

What happened to the 9800 pro?

I am currently pondering whether to go with Nvidia or ATI for my next (primary) graphics card. This GeForce 2 MX 40 needs replacing very badly, and now that I have a job again (and now that school is cooling down) I can afford something new (I really hate having to work as anything but a snowboard instructor, the pay is always worse and the work is always harder and less fun.... ).

[Kane]

I'd still go nVidia. ATi still have issues. nVidia's 'the way it's meant to be played' program is also helping greatly for me.

I went Nvidia again for that reason, but the difference is probably minimal nowadays. Besides, I think Ati's "get in the game" is a similar idea. Anyways, any developer with a bit of a brain will make sure his game will be working good on both of em.

just don't buy a matrox or an intel

[D.D.]

>What happened to the 9800 pro?

Heh, I should have said I WAS thinking of getting a 9500 pro. I've wanted to get 9800 pro since I began to become aware of the fact that the 9500 pro might not run Doom III very well. Anyhow, I'm waiting on the 5900s to come out. Basically, my plan now is to wait for another 7 months before upgrading cuz I sense a major graphics card battle coming up . I'm prepared to spend maybe 350 on my next graphics card and I want the best deal I can get.

Plus, if I'm lucky, the next card that I can get from my friend is a 9500 pro so the wait for my "supercard" might be all the more bearable.

[DarkAurora]

Originally posted by ChrisRay



Yes the new revision of the Geforce FX 5600 Ultra Kanes the 9500 Pro in AF quality and speed.


Its called technology progession Also the Geforce FX 5600 benefits from the Nv30 pathway which has shown it to Kane the 9500 Pro at comparable settings.


Due to the forced precision on hte 9500 Pro, Lets not mention that the r300 line benefits from no special optimisations Aside from its DX 8.0 counterpart. It's pretty obvious where the Doom 3 engine is biased too

Does the revised FX 5600 have a second multitexturing pass? The lack of one crippled the 5600 a little bit. If I were to buy a 5600 how could I be sure it was a revied version?

Originally posted by DarkAurora


Does the revised FX 5600 have a second multitexturing pass? The lack of one crippled the 5600 a little bit. If I were to buy a 5600 how could I be sure it was a revied version?

Multi Texturing pass? I think you have your hardware features amiss a bit.

I Believe the Geforce FX 5600 is a 2 Pixel Pipeline 2 Texture Map Unit card,


Therefore it definately excels in Mult texturing.

Nvidia has not released any info on this card that gives you a viable idea of what their hardware is doing tho.


Every synthetic Pixel/Texel fill rate does suggest that this card is either a 4x1 (4 Pixel Pipelines and 1 Texture Map Unite Per pipeline)

Or 2 Pixel Pipeline with 2 Texture Map units per Pipeline.

This would strengthen its Multi Texture fill rate Which is not as bandwith limited as its single texture fill rate, Which to me. Is the reason Why Nvidia has chosen multi texture design.

I'm not quite sure how relevent those extra textra mappers will be in the end when Games become more based on Shaders rather than texel Fill Rate.

But currently any game that uses MUlti texturing is really going to benefit more from Multi texture design than ATi's single Pixel Pipelines.

Therefore you can conclude games with fairly high polygon and texture counts will run better on the Nvidia card, However it might perform less than admirable in Shader routines. Multi Texturing in Shaders is still possible. But the shaders do not benefit at all from the the extra texture map units.


However, architecture wise, The new Geforce FX 5600 is similar to the old. But with Higher Clock rates.

Also Nvidia has improved AF quality beyond what it was. Unfortunately. Nvidias Multi Sample Anti Aliasing technique is still rather weak.

Only offering Rotated Grid MUlti Samplgin in 2x and Quincunx Modes

[Shadow Lady]

Is always good to see you informing us ChrisRay

[felinusz]

Originally posted by D.D.
Basically, my plan now is to wait for another 7 months before upgrading cuz I sense a major graphics card battle coming up . I'm prepared to spend maybe 350 on my next graphics card and I want the best deal I can get.

Plus, if I'm lucky, the next card that I can get from my friend is a 9500 pro so the wait for my "supercard" might be all the more bearable.

I have the strange feeling that you're right on that... I think a lovely little 'graphics battle' is imminent. The problem is that I don't think I will hold out to take advantage of it; this GeForce 2 needs replacing - FAST!

semi free 9500 pro - you lucky bastard

[w3_tennis_duran]

no comment got no money to upgrade my card lol

[Quasius]

Originally posted by sxamiga
John Carmack, the developer of Doom III, has said that a GF 2 graphics card will be powerful enough to run it.

Those are minimum specs. Minimum specs always lie. If it does run decently, it will look like ass. It will not be worth it and not very playable.

[Chinoz]

Ah well, with a dirt cheap card like the gf2, what do you expect? 60fps+ at 1600x1200 at 6xAA and 16xAF? :P

Originally posted by 12si
Ah well, with a dirt cheap card like the gf2, what do you expect? 60fps+ at 1600x1200 at 6xAA and 16xAF? :P

in doom 3? maybe 320x240

[Violineb]

hmm since ChrisRay seems to be up to date on info about the new 5600 Ultra, any idea how much it will be?