why if it is possible NVIDIA

Aleksei (St) · March 8th, 2003

why if is possible to make a better anisotropic filtering with drivers
nvidia doesnt make that filter better

**Kane** · March 8th, 2003

Because they want to retain the quality and accuracy of thier algorithm?

Aleksei (St) · March 8th, 2003

but why with the ATI driver is almost the same quality

(In real life games)

**Kane** · March 8th, 2003

I think nVidia have pride issues....

**Demigod** · March 8th, 2003

I think Nvidia still has some optimizations to do on their anisotropic filtering. ATI's performance AF is comparable to the GeForce FX's balanced/quality AF in image quality but has significantly less performance hit.

**Raziel** · March 8th, 2003

Actually, anisotropic filtering's quality has been improved through the latest detonators series, I think the greatest improvement came when the series passed from 2x.xx to 3x.xx, try different sets of drivers, I'm sure you'll notice some differences, at least I do

Particleman · March 8th, 2003

Well the optimizations that users can do through Rivatuner have quality drawbacks. But it's good for some people since they can't tell the difference, but careful examination will show lessened image quality. Still it's nice to be able to customize to each individual user's preference of what they feel is acceptable.

March 8th, 2003

YOu can't change hardware algorithms through drivers. Geforce 4 cards have a limitation in hardware.

The Anistropic Filtering performance was increased by about 10% through the 41.00 + dets.

But the most notable feature is the ability to optimise the level of anistropic detail.

The Quality (On Geforce 4 cards) is really no less than my Radeon 8500. And yields a 40% performance increase.

I wonder how "optimisable" Nvidias "balanced" mode is. If it offers the same level of optimisation and minor quality loss (very minor) Then it could very well be faster than ATI's method in the end (From a tweakers point of view)

I guess I won't know until I have my Geforce 5600 Ultra in 2 months

dogulation000 · March 8th, 2003

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Originally posted by ChrisRay
I wonder how "optimisable" Nvidias "balanced" mode is. If it offers the same level of optimisation and minor quality loss (very minor) Then it could very well be faster than ATI's method in the end (From a tweakers point of view)

Considering that ATI is quite proud of their Anisotropic Filtering, and the fact that they have very good Anisotropic Filtering for a while (even during the Radeon 7200 days), I doubt ATI fall behind in Anisotropic Filtering that much, since that is one of the strong points.

March 8th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by dogulation000

Considering that ATI is quite proud of their Anisotropic Filtering, and the fact that they have very good Anisotropic Filtering for a while (even during the Radeon 7200 days), I doubt ATI fall behind in Anisotropic Filtering that much, since that is one of the strong points.

Well this isn't a default setting, And it wouldn't really effect anyones opinion except a hardcore tweaker. Its arguable that its cheating too.

But it could very well be faster in the hands of the right tweaker. So you can take that with a grain of salt

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Raziel Beta Administrator Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Nantes, France Posts: 6,147	Actually, anisotropic filtering's quality has been improved through the latest detonators series, I think the greatest improvement came when the series passed from 2x.xx to 3x.xx, try different sets of drivers, I'm sure you'll notice some differences, at least I do __________________ System Specs: OS: Windows Vista Ultimate x64 Edition CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 @4GHz Video Card: MSI GeForce 8800 GTX Motherboard: ASUS Maximus Formula SE RAM: 4GB OCZ XMS2 PC6400 Sound Card: Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS

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Particleman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 462	Well the optimizations that users can do through Rivatuner have quality drawbacks. But it's good for some people since they can't tell the difference, but careful examination will show lessened image quality. Still it's nice to be able to customize to each individual user's preference of what they feel is acceptable.

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ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	YOu can't change hardware algorithms through drivers. Geforce 4 cards have a limitation in hardware. The Anistropic Filtering performance was increased by about 10% through the 41.00 + dets. But the most notable feature is the ability to optimise the level of anistropic detail. The Quality (On Geforce 4 cards) is really no less than my Radeon 8500. And yields a 40% performance increase. I wonder how "optimisable" Nvidias "balanced" mode is. If it offers the same level of optimisation and minor quality loss (very minor) Then it could very well be faster than ATI's method in the end (From a tweakers point of view) I guess I won't know until I have my Geforce 5600 Ultra in 2 months

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