Via boards and Geforce4's

doggieiscool · February 4th, 2003

Hey, i recently bought a geforce 4 4200ti and have a Via motherboard and found it locked up during anything to do with 3d use.. eg screen savers and games.. i stressed and thought it must be the card, so i tried it in an other pc, and it worked fine.. then i thought it was my power supply.. that was tested and it was fine.. finally i had a look around and came across a option, SBA(Side-Banding Address).. disabled and it worked.. i hope this will help anyone with Via motherboards that had the same problem

Sampah · February 5th, 2003

My problem is the worst, Although side band addressing off, Fastwrite off, AGP 2X, Video BIOS off, Some 3D games still keeps hang, especially direct3D games like MAX payne or warcraft III, This MUST be the motherboard, It SUCKS, Very SUCKS, I try all possible solution and this isn't graphics card problem, no Shared IRQ, but the problem still exsist, this 694X chipset is SUCKS!, Jetway IS SUCKS!

TalkingANUS · February 8th, 2003

what is side-band addressing?

February 8th, 2003

Side band addressing is when the system bus uses the AGP Side Bands to transmit data.

Basically your accelerated graphic port uses 8 extra side band lines which allow the graphics port to issue and utilize new addresses and data requests at the same time while the data is still moving on the normal 32 bit bus.

Basically what that means is your AGP slot can perform more functions at once and thus equating to more performance. However on some systems it causes instability. Tho It is incredibly rare.

Most Via chipsets from the Kt133A And on. Have little problem with sideband addressing

Player-X · February 8th, 2003

I know your pain(or in this case knew)

Gamer1 · February 8th, 2003

no problems here. I've been using a geforce ti 4200 for quite a while now, and since i built my sytem, it never locked up or crashed like the computer i built for my little bro (733 Mhz P3 with 815 intel chipset, he specifically wanted intel even though an intel p3 733 proc costs $80, the same price as my Athlon 2000+, or the same price as a 1 ghz athlon with a k7s5a mobo), o well he was an idiot, and he's still trying to gt money for a Geforce 4.

Kaotic Soul · February 8th, 2003

Is it AGP only?

CrashDecryptor · February 9th, 2003

I guess i should be glad that i have an nForce2 mobo.

hey gamer, isn't it kind of mean building your brother a peice of crap and didn't educate him.

and intel cpus are expensive, good thing 2700+ and below are cheap though. Especially 2100+ and below, those are really dirt cheap, cheaper than P3s even

TalkingANUS · February 9th, 2003

How do you enable/disable side-band addressing? can you do it in the bios? cos i see no option for it there..
And also, does anyone know if my mobo supports an Athlon XP 2600+ or not?
thx

Gamer1 · February 9th, 2003

>>And also, does anyone know if my mobo supports an Athlon XP 2600+ or not

your mobo could support up to 2200+ palomino

as stated here : http://tw.giga-byte.com/support/swamd_old.htm#link7dxe

>>hey gamer, isn't it kind of mean building your brother a peice of crap and didn't educate him.

I don't think its mean, my dad gave both $500 to build our own computers. He got what he wanted, while i got what i wanted. Even though i still laugh at him for getting a proc the same price as my 2000+... O well, that's what he gets for taking an intel. I laugh at him and his integrated vid card. i built my machine at the $500 mark and i built his machine on at the $500 mark. And hopefully, he learned his lesson

>>How do you enable/disable side-band addressing?

i don't think you could even do that at all. Try using new 4 in 1 drivers. to solve your problems

Sampah · February 9th, 2003

my Geforce4 MX440 disable the side band addresing by default, I cannot enable anymore cause it is disable by the manufacturer

KillerShots · February 10th, 2003

Update your mobo BIOS - that should allow you to re-enable side band addressing. I used to have a similar problem until I updated - now it works fine and without a hitch for several months

doggieiscool · February 10th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by TalkingANUS
How do you enable/disable side-band addressing? can you do it in the bios? cos i see no option for it there..
And also, does anyone know if my mobo supports an Athlon XP 2600+ or not?
thx

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February 4th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
doggieiscool Dear Diary, Jackpot! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: I build machines B*tches Posts: 564	Via boards and Geforce4's Hey, i recently bought a geforce 4 4200ti and have a Via motherboard and found it locked up during anything to do with 3d use.. eg screen savers and games.. i stressed and thought it must be the card, so i tried it in an other pc, and it worked fine.. then i thought it was my power supply.. that was tested and it was fine.. finally i had a look around and came across a option, SBA(Side-Banding Address).. disabled and it worked.. i hope this will help anyone with Via motherboards that had the same problem

February 5th, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Sampah The Handsome Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Unlucky Place Posts: 881	My problem is the worst, Although side band addressing off, Fastwrite off, AGP 2X, Video BIOS off, Some 3D games still keeps hang, especially direct3D games like MAX payne or warcraft III, This MUST be the motherboard, It SUCKS, Very SUCKS, I try all possible solution and this isn't graphics card problem, no Shared IRQ, but the problem still exsist, this 694X chipset is SUCKS!, Jetway IS SUCKS! __________________ PROCESSOR: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ @1.8Ghz RAM: Kingstone 512MB PC3200 MOBO: ECS Nforce4 A939 VGA: Pixelview Geforce 6600GT (Golden Limited Edition) 128MB OS: WinXP pro Service pack 2

February 8th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
TalkingANUS talks a lot of $hit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NZ Posts: 742	what is side-band addressing? __________________ .:System Specs:. ::Core 2 Duo E6400 \| 1GB RAM \| Radeon X1950 Pro:: Why am I dying to live if I'm just living to die Last edited by TalkingANUS; February 8th, 2003 at 07:28.

February 8th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,237	no problems here. I've been using a geforce ti 4200 for quite a while now, and since i built my sytem, it never locked up or crashed like the computer i built for my little bro (733 Mhz P3 with 815 intel chipset, he specifically wanted intel even though an intel p3 733 proc costs $80, the same price as my Athlon 2000+, or the same price as a 1 ghz athlon with a k7s5a mobo), o well he was an idiot, and he's still trying to gt money for a Geforce 4. __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1) Last edited by Gamer1; February 8th, 2003 at 18:52.

February 8th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
Kaotic Soul Random Madness Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Pearl,Mississippi,USA Posts: 494	Is it AGP only? __________________ ---------------------------------- \| Intel Pentium 4 3.4 GHz \| Windows Vista \| 1.7 Gig of Ram \| Nvidia 8600 GT OC \| Sound Blaster Audigy2 ZS - Gamer : Limited Edition \| Western Digital 250 Gig HD \| Lite-on DVD-RW/CD-RW \| HP Pavilion 19" LCD" --------------------------------

February 8th, 2003	#4 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Side band addressing is when the system bus uses the AGP Side Bands to transmit data. Basically your accelerated graphic port uses 8 extra side band lines which allow the graphics port to issue and utilize new addresses and data requests at the same time while the data is still moving on the normal 32 bit bus. Basically what that means is your AGP slot can perform more functions at once and thus equating to more performance. However on some systems it causes instability. Tho It is incredibly rare. Most Via chipsets from the Kt133A And on. Have little problem with sideband addressing

February 8th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
Player-X Banned Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: From Kuching in Malaysia now stuck in Houston Texas Posts: 9,110	I know your pain(or in this case knew)

February 9th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
CrashDecryptor Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 19	I guess i should be glad that i have an nForce2 mobo. hey gamer, isn't it kind of mean building your brother a peice of crap and didn't educate him. and intel cpus are expensive, good thing 2700+ and below are cheap though. Especially 2100+ and below, those are really dirt cheap, cheaper than P3s even Last edited by CrashDecryptor; February 9th, 2003 at 02:22.

February 9th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
TalkingANUS talks a lot of $hit Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: NZ Posts: 742	How do you enable/disable side-band addressing? can you do it in the bios? cos i see no option for it there.. And also, does anyone know if my mobo supports an Athlon XP 2600+ or not? thx __________________ .:System Specs:. ::Core 2 Duo E6400 \| 1GB RAM \| Radeon X1950 Pro:: Why am I dying to live if I'm just living to die

February 9th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,237	>>And also, does anyone know if my mobo supports an Athlon XP 2600+ or not your mobo could support up to 2200+ palomino as stated here : http://tw.giga-byte.com/support/swamd_old.htm#link7dxe >>hey gamer, isn't it kind of mean building your brother a peice of crap and didn't educate him. I don't think its mean, my dad gave both $500 to build our own computers. He got what he wanted, while i got what i wanted. Even though i still laugh at him for getting a proc the same price as my 2000+... O well, that's what he gets for taking an intel. I laugh at him and his integrated vid card. i built my machine at the $500 mark and i built his machine on at the $500 mark. And hopefully, he learned his lesson >>How do you enable/disable side-band addressing? i don't think you could even do that at all. Try using new 4 in 1 drivers. to solve your problems __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

February 9th, 2003	#11 (permalink)
Sampah The Handsome Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Unlucky Place Posts: 881	my Geforce4 MX440 disable the side band addresing by default, I cannot enable anymore cause it is disable by the manufacturer __________________ PROCESSOR: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ @1.8Ghz RAM: Kingstone 512MB PC3200 MOBO: ECS Nforce4 A939 VGA: Pixelview Geforce 6600GT (Golden Limited Edition) 128MB OS: WinXP pro Service pack 2

February 10th, 2003	#12 (permalink)
KillerShots War Games coder Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Florida Posts: 1,918	Update your mobo BIOS - that should allow you to re-enable side band addressing. I used to have a similar problem until I updated - now it works fine and without a hitch for several months __________________ Primary CPU: Athlon 64 X2 4400+ Mobo: Biostar N4SLI-A9 RAM: 2G Crucial (DDR400) Video: eVGA GeForce 7900 GTX (512M) Audio: HDA X-Mystique HD(s): Maxtor 300G SATA2, Samsung 400G SATA2 OS(s): WinXP x64 Pro, Vista x32 Ultimate, Gentoo x64 Monitor(s): Primary - 19" Flat Panel (1280x1024) Secondary - 19" Flat Panel (1280x1024) Tertiary - Zenith 42" Plasma TV (1024x768 res) Many other machines... sig too short

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