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e-ternity · February 2nd, 2003

quetion: whats a good fan and whats not...
sites doesn't show any info about sound..... so how do you know if its loud or not?
which company/ies do you recommend?

reason: the fan that came with my athlon's loud..... and i want a better fan for my radeon..... so i can o/c it......

um.... to athlonxp 2100 users... does your fan create a lot of sound?? kinda uh..... not sure if its that fan or my power supply one... or that other fan, beside my processor... or.... my video card one, which i doubt

Omen · February 2nd, 2003

I wanna personally get into watercooling my system but I want a professional to set it up.

Sampah · February 2nd, 2003

Water cooling? I've read it on magazines, but isn't that is too dangerous even too expensive just for a cooling devices? image the water pipe was broken, what will happen to the computer?

JAZ · February 2nd, 2003

Water cooling is safe as long as its all sealed properlly, its just a closed pump system so as long as theres no leaks then what can go wrong.
As for cost I have been looking into it myself and its not that expensive as long as you dont buy the pre made kits (which are crap anyway)
I worked out it can be quite cheap as all you need is -
Pump
Radiator
120mm Fan
small water tank
Tubing/fittings
and finally a cpu block (most expensive part)
Most of the above can be got cheap from hardware stores etc or you can find them 2nd hand (fish tank pump, car heater core for the radiator, marine electrical box for water tank etc if your lucky you might like me have acsess to a cnc machine to make the cpu block)
Theres the risk you will fry your system if it goes wrong but the water used isnt normal and is not conductive like tap water so a leak doesnt have to be fatal.
Im still considering doing a water cool system so Im not an expert or anything so some of the above may be slightlly wrong but thats the general idea..

As for quiet fans try makes like Papst as they make very quiet fans with decent performance and use the biggest size fan that you can fit on your heatsink

felinusz · February 2nd, 2003

I have looked into water cooling systems, they are reliable as long as you set them up correctly. I.E. get someone else to do it for you.

(which costs 5 times as much)

e-ternity · February 2nd, 2003

this is going off topic.................
i want cooling from a fan since its cheaper(from what i've seen) which is what i could.... or my parents are willing to pay

e-ternity · February 4th, 2003

k...... this is dead...
i'll restart....
today i went to this computer guy... forgot what he said except he can get me a volcano 9 fan for like 40bux CDN...... the fan's meant for my processor, right?? is it good?? is it loud??
what's a good fan for my video card...??

Gamer1 · February 4th, 2003

i have a volcano 9. its meant for athlons and pentiums. But its also meant for overclocking. that means, it might be even louder than the fan that you already have. due to the fact that it needs to cool everything down by having such a powerful (yet sort of noisy) fan.

and you don't need a new fan for your vid card.

February 5th, 2003

I am using a Volcano 7 fan w/my Athlon XP+ 2000 and i have no complaints about it at all. It is quite quiet and it cools my CPU very well. I highly reccomend Volcano fans to anyone.
sincerely,
sx/amiga

Chinoz · February 5th, 2003

What abt Radeon9500Pro??? If you tell me that i don't need a new fan, you really have to be burnt by one of these charcoals to find out

Gamer1 · February 5th, 2003

>>you really have to be burnt by one of these charcoals to find out

you obviously haven't seen or touched a voodoo 3 before

.

You should be fine, as long as you don't overclock... then, it's up to the design of the heatsink and fan of your 9500 Pro card.

Hanamichi · February 5th, 2003

I've touched a Voodoo3. No where near the temps of the RAM chips of the Radeon.

Heck it burned my finger the other day... hmph.

Im going to use staples as a temporary heatsink.

e-ternity · February 5th, 2003

k.... volcano's are quiet??? didn't geez...... anyone else have volcano fans??

[+] Heck it burned my finger the other day... hmph. Im going to use staples as a temporary heatsink
[-] staples, lol.........

surfed around and found some orb or something fans for my radeon.... are those good...?

CrashDecryptor · February 6th, 2003

my friend's volcono 5 for his 1700+, its pretty quiet.

i have a volcano 9, and its pretty loud.

I'm going to get one of those, it's suppose to help cooling and better airflow

http://thermaltake.com/products/heatsink/ductingMod.htm

GSDragoon · February 6th, 2003

My Anthlon Xp 2100+'s retail fan isn't loud but I think it sucks. It's normally at 55C idel and 65C working. I haven't overclocked anything. I have plenty of open space and fans in my comp. That's why I want a better fan, but I'm not interested in overclocking.

Chinoz · February 6th, 2003

Someday, we should all go to Han's place and check out his Radeon 9500Pro with an Intel P4 Fan hanging roun the Rad :-)

zukeft · February 6th, 2003

I have a Volcano 7+. It's noticeably louder than the AMD stock fan in medium velocity (normal ~5000 RPM), but it does a much better job at cooling than the stock fan.

e-ternity · February 8th, 2003

hmmm.... to have a nice quiet computer or a loud one thats nice and cool.... the air thats being put out of the casing would be much cooler eh? lol..... think i might go for that since my basement is like stuffy and stuff... sure... stuffy kinda good... wen days are really cold and you walk in and...... yes... w/e
anyways so yea... volcano9's alrights.... as long as it could lessen the stuffy air down here

[-] hans, got a p4 cooler on his gfx card??? lol... interestin, i wana see that too

that gives me an idea.... lol

Hanamichi · February 9th, 2003

Well I modded my P4 fan and tied it to the heatsink of the Radeon using some wires, as wires are harder than strings and wouldnt let the fan move around too much when the casing is moved.
The Volcano7+ is a pretty good heatsink+fan combination. It's the fourth best HS+F for socket 478(supports both p4 and athlons), and is relatively cheap. The very fine fins are shaved from a copper block and bent upwards, no soldering which decreases heat transfer involved. It also comes with a fan speed controller that lets you switch between low, median and high settings. Granted, there are better heatsinks out there for cooling athlons, namely the SLK-800. Those are however expensive, and you absolutely do not need those unless youre going to extreme overclock.
You should also lap the heatsink up to atleast 800grid.

e-ternity · February 10th, 2003

[+] You should also lap the heatsink up to atleast 800grid
[-] come again???

February 2nd, 2003	#1 (permalink)
e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	fans quetion: whats a good fan and whats not... sites doesn't show any info about sound..... so how do you know if its loud or not? which company/ies do you recommend? reason: the fan that came with my athlon's loud..... and i want a better fan for my radeon..... so i can o/c it...... um.... to athlonxp 2100 users... does your fan create a lot of sound?? kinda uh..... not sure if its that fan or my power supply one... or that other fan, beside my processor... or.... my video card one, which i doubt __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY

February 2nd, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Omen Registered User Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Terrace,BC,Canada Posts: 222	I wanna personally get into watercooling my system but I want a professional to set it up. __________________ AMD Athlon 3200+, Radeon X850XT, SB Audigy, 1024RAM

February 2nd, 2003	#3 (permalink)
Sampah The Handsome Man Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Unlucky Place Posts: 881	Water cooling? I've read it on magazines, but isn't that is too dangerous even too expensive just for a cooling devices? image the water pipe was broken, what will happen to the computer? __________________ PROCESSOR: AMD Athlon 64 3000+ @1.8Ghz RAM: Kingstone 512MB PC3200 MOBO: ECS Nforce4 A939 VGA: Pixelview Geforce 6600GT (Golden Limited Edition) 128MB OS: WinXP pro Service pack 2

February 2nd, 2003	#6 (permalink)
e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	this is going off topic................. i want cooling from a fan since its cheaper(from what i've seen) which is what i could.... or my parents are willing to pay __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY

February 4th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	k...... this is dead... i'll restart.... today i went to this computer guy... forgot what he said except he can get me a volcano 9 fan for like 40bux CDN...... the fan's meant for my processor, right?? is it good?? is it loud?? what's a good fan for my video card...?? __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY

February 2nd, 2003	#4 (permalink)
JAZ Nintendo Zealot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,424	Water cooling is safe as long as its all sealed properlly, its just a closed pump system so as long as theres no leaks then what can go wrong. As for cost I have been looking into it myself and its not that expensive as long as you dont buy the pre made kits (which are crap anyway) I worked out it can be quite cheap as all you need is - Pump Radiator 120mm Fan small water tank Tubing/fittings and finally a cpu block (most expensive part) Most of the above can be got cheap from hardware stores etc or you can find them 2nd hand (fish tank pump, car heater core for the radiator, marine electrical box for water tank etc if your lucky you might like me have acsess to a cnc machine to make the cpu block) Theres the risk you will fry your system if it goes wrong but the water used isnt normal and is not conductive like tap water so a leak doesnt have to be fatal. Im still considering doing a water cool system so Im not an expert or anything so some of the above may be slightlly wrong but thats the general idea.. As for quiet fans try makes like Papst as they make very quiet fans with decent performance and use the biggest size fan that you can fit on your heatsink

February 2nd, 2003	#5 (permalink)
felinusz overclocking magus Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,369	I have looked into water cooling systems, they are reliable as long as you set them up correctly. I.E. get someone else to do it for you. (which costs 5 times as much)

February 4th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,237	i have a volcano 9. its meant for athlons and pentiums. But its also meant for overclocking. that means, it might be even louder than the fan that you already have. due to the fact that it needs to cool everything down by having such a powerful (yet sort of noisy) fan. and you don't need a new fan for your vid card. __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

February 5th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
sxamiga Guest Posts: n/a	I am using a Volcano 7 fan w/my Athlon XP+ 2000 and i have no complaints about it at all. It is quite quiet and it cools my CPU very well. I highly reccomend Volcano fans to anyone. sincerely, sx/amiga

February 5th, 2003	#10 (permalink)
Chinoz ... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Desa Park, Key Ell, Malaysia Posts: 2,301	What abt Radeon9500Pro??? If you tell me that i don't need a new fan, you really have to be burnt by one of these charcoals to find out __________________ System specs P4 2.6c \| Abit AI7 \| Radeon 9800pro \| 1024mb kingston ddr400 \| 120gb seagate sata \| 40mb wd \| And all the minor bits and pieces 3dMark2001SE

February 5th, 2003	#11 (permalink)
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,237	>>you really have to be burnt by one of these charcoals to find out you obviously haven't seen or touched a voodoo 3 before . You should be fine, as long as you don't overclock... then, it's up to the design of the heatsink and fan of your 9500 Pro card. __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

February 5th, 2003	#12 (permalink)
Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,573	I've touched a Voodoo3. No where near the temps of the RAM chips of the Radeon. Heck it burned my finger the other day... hmph. Im going to use staples as a temporary heatsink.

February 5th, 2003	#13 (permalink)
e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	k.... volcano's are quiet??? didn't geez...... anyone else have volcano fans?? [+] Heck it burned my finger the other day... hmph. Im going to use staples as a temporary heatsink [-] staples, lol......... surfed around and found some orb or something fans for my radeon.... are those good...? __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY

February 6th, 2003	#14 (permalink)
CrashDecryptor Registered User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 19	my friend's volcono 5 for his 1700+, its pretty quiet. i have a volcano 9, and its pretty loud. I'm going to get one of those, it's suppose to help cooling and better airflow http://thermaltake.com/products/heatsink/ductingMod.htm

February 6th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
GSDragoon Registered User Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,970	My Anthlon Xp 2100+'s retail fan isn't loud but I think it sucks. It's normally at 55C idel and 65C working. I haven't overclocked anything. I have plenty of open space and fans in my comp. That's why I want a better fan, but I'm not interested in overclocking. __________________ Athlon64 3400+ @10.5x250MHz, 2.625GHz \| DFI NF3 250GB 2x512 Corsair pc3200 \| BFG FX6800 OC 128MB \| X-Fi XtremeGamer

February 6th, 2003	#16 (permalink)
Chinoz ... Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Desa Park, Key Ell, Malaysia Posts: 2,301	Someday, we should all go to Han's place and check out his Radeon 9500Pro with an Intel P4 Fan hanging roun the Rad :-) __________________ System specs P4 2.6c \| Abit AI7 \| Radeon 9800pro \| 1024mb kingston ddr400 \| 120gb seagate sata \| 40mb wd \| And all the minor bits and pieces 3dMark2001SE

February 6th, 2003	#17 (permalink)
zukeft Registered User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Bogota, Colombia Posts: 1,157	I have a Volcano 7+. It's noticeably louder than the AMD stock fan in medium velocity (normal ~5000 RPM), but it does a much better job at cooling than the stock fan. __________________ Flaretech.biz web hosting

February 8th, 2003	#18 (permalink)
e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	hmmm.... to have a nice quiet computer or a loud one thats nice and cool.... the air thats being put out of the casing would be much cooler eh? lol..... think i might go for that since my basement is like stuffy and stuff... sure... stuffy kinda good... wen days are really cold and you walk in and...... yes... w/e anyways so yea... volcano9's alrights.... as long as it could lessen the stuffy air down here [-] hans, got a p4 cooler on his gfx card??? lol... interestin, i wana see that too that gives me an idea.... lol __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY

February 9th, 2003	#19 (permalink)
Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,573	Well I modded my P4 fan and tied it to the heatsink of the Radeon using some wires, as wires are harder than strings and wouldnt let the fan move around too much when the casing is moved. The Volcano7+ is a pretty good heatsink+fan combination. It's the fourth best HS+F for socket 478(supports both p4 and athlons), and is relatively cheap. The very fine fins are shaved from a copper block and bent upwards, no soldering which decreases heat transfer involved. It also comes with a fan speed controller that lets you switch between low, median and high settings. Granted, there are better heatsinks out there for cooling athlons, namely the SLK-800. Those are however expensive, and you absolutely do not need those unless youre going to extreme overclock. You should also lap the heatsink up to atleast 800grid.

February 10th, 2003	#20 (permalink)
e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	[+] You should also lap the heatsink up to atleast 800grid [-] come again??? __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY

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