The unthinkable happened.....

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

This was not my fault in any way. Blame the eletric company

I was flashing a new BIOS to support the new AntholonXP I bought. Everything was going well, until the power turned off and on during the initial flashing. Now i'm stuck with an expensive paperweight. I do think my BIOS has a boot-block, but I have no idea how to activate it. If that won't fix it, what are my options?

If it helps, I'm using an Award BIOS.

**Kane** · February 1st, 2003

Call the Mobo manufacturere's local tech support number.

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Kane
Call the Mobo manufacturere's local tech support number.

ummm....there's a little problem. their only phone technical support team is in Taiwan, Japan. And last time I sent an e-mail to them, 2 years ago, they hadn't sent anything back.

I was looking in http://students.juniata.edu/gehrigm9/biosfaq.htm under "HELP! My BIOS is gone and i have no video!!" and my floppy still works. However, I have no Windows startup disk made up. So I'll have to seach for those files listed. It might be stupid anough to work

Could someone copy these files from a windows startup disk for me? please:

command.com
drvspace.bin
io.sys
msdos.sys

Hanamichi · February 1st, 2003

I absolutely havent a file named io.sys in my boot disk.
But, cant you make a bootdisk using whatever youre posting with now?
edit: Nevermind, it was hidden. Ill zip em up now.
There.

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

If this works, there goes my excuse for a new motherboard

There were alot of sources about this on many web sites. It could work...

Hanamichi · February 1st, 2003

Too big to put in one file. I really think that the maximum file size should be like 500kb or something.

Badaro · February 1st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Kirby
ummm....there's a little problem. their only phone technical support team is in Taiwan, Japan. And last time I sent an e-mail to them, 2 years ago, they hadn't sent anything back.

I was looking in http://students.juniata.edu/gehrigm9/biosfaq.htm under "HELP! My BIOS is gone and i have no video!!" and my floppy still works. However, I have no Windows startup disk made up. So I'll have to seach for those files listed. It might be stupid anough to work

Could someone copy these files from a windows startup disk for me? please:

command.com
drvspace.bin
io.sys
msdos.sys

Try this site: www.bootdisk.com

[]s Badaro

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

Thanks for the site, but Han already sent me the files I needed. Now all I have to do is to wait to go home.

caipirinha · February 1st, 2003

i don´t think that´ll work, as that won´t restore your bios on the flash memory .
only the tech support can restore it when something like this happens

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

By what I was reading, this is actually a "first resort" before replacing the chip. And I don't think my chip can be removed. To be honest, why would those BIOS chips have a non-writable area?

Gamer1 · February 1st, 2003

http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=194

that's a page that you could use. hopefully you know someone who has the exact mobo as you...

atze · February 1st, 2003

Well there is one solution that should work but it is a tricky one. It is called HOT FLASHING.
Well what do you do:

1. Find somebody with the same Motherbord as yourz, and willing to take a risk
2. Boot his computer with a bootdisk and flash software
3. After booting up replace your bios-chip with his
4. Flash the bios
5. Now put your bios-chip on your own MB agian, and it should work.

I did it a while ago and it worked. Only had some trouble getting the bios-chip of the MB.

Use this only if you really know what you are doing

Greetinx
Atze

EDIT: Just got the same idea at the same time

:eek:

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

I believe Unicron has the same mobo as me. Hell, if the bootable floppy doesn't work, I'm buying a new mobo. A piece of **** anyways.

Esturk · February 1st, 2003

Kirby.. It does work. You said your floppy works right? But you have no video. Perhaps it is looking for your bios file. Try putting it on a floppy and sticking it in when you turn the computer on. I have done this before with an Award BIOS and it worked. I have also done this with a Compaq computer and it worked great.

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

yup. The floppy does work. By what I heard, you put in a value in an autoexec.bat file, your BIOS file you want to flash, the flashing program, and some other files. It should automatically boot up and fix it. The only reason why video doesn't work is because it's only supported for ISA video cards. But the automation should do it just fine.

When you come and think about it, this would of never happened if the electric company knew how to keep the juice flowing.

Gamer1 · February 1st, 2003

give the electric company a big fat lawsuit!!! and see if they will replace your mobo. It's a long shot, but when you talk about lawsuits, companies crumble...

**Kirby** · February 1st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Gamer1
give the electric company a big fat lawsuit!!! and see if they will replace your mobo. It's a long shot, but when you talk about lawsuits, companies crumble...

I can't file a lawsuit, I'm still a minor in Massachusetts. But my parents can, but they will just complain on how it was your fault to flash it in the first place.

But anyways, I'm going home soon, I'll let everyone know Monday how it went. Wish me luck again

Particleman · February 2nd, 2003

You could go to http://www.badflash.com there they can either sell you a new chip altogether or reflash your old one. It's $20 USD for a new chip and $10 to get it reprogrammed though, so if you've got an older board it might just be better to get a whole new board.

**Kirby** · February 4th, 2003

That bootable floppy did work

I had some troubles with my first try (all the files Han gave me) but I formatted a bootable floppy from my brother's computer, put in the files and the atuoexec, boot it up, and I'm back in business

And about the new chip I bought, I bent alot of the pins while putting it in the slot (my bad) :blush: now I have to wait a week or 2 to take it back.

February 1st, 2003	#1 (permalink)
Kirby Politically incorrect FTW Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,445	The unthinkable happened..... This was not my fault in any way. Blame the eletric company I was flashing a new BIOS to support the new AntholonXP I bought. Everything was going well, until the power turned off and on during the initial flashing. Now i'm stuck with an expensive paperweight. I do think my BIOS has a boot-block, but I have no idea how to activate it. If that won't fix it, what are my options? If it helps, I'm using an Award BIOS. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic Last edited by Kirby; February 1st, 2003 at 16:10.

February 1st, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Call the Mobo manufacturere's local tech support number. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

February 1st, 2003	#5 (permalink)
Kirby Politically incorrect FTW Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,445	If this works, there goes my excuse for a new motherboard There were alot of sources about this on many web sites. It could work... __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic

February 1st, 2003	#8 (permalink)
Kirby Politically incorrect FTW Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,445	Thanks for the site, but Han already sent me the files I needed. Now all I have to do is to wait to go home. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic

February 1st, 2003	#10 (permalink)
Kirby Politically incorrect FTW Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,445	By what I was reading, this is actually a "first resort" before replacing the chip. And I don't think my chip can be removed. To be honest, why would those BIOS chips have a non-writable area? __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic

February 1st, 2003	#9 (permalink)
caipirinha Change your heart Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Brazil Posts: 1,986	i don´t think that´ll work, as that won´t restore your bios on the flash memory . only the tech support can restore it when something like this happens

February 1st, 2003	#11 (permalink)
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,237	http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=194 that's a page that you could use. hopefully you know someone who has the exact mobo as you... __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

February 1st, 2003	#12 (permalink)
atze rpg freak Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 163	Well there is one solution that should work but it is a tricky one. It is called HOT FLASHING. Well what do you do: 1. Find somebody with the same Motherbord as yourz, and willing to take a risk 2. Boot his computer with a bootdisk and flash software 3. After booting up replace your bios-chip with his 4. Flash the bios 5. Now put your bios-chip on your own MB agian, and it should work. I did it a while ago and it worked. Only had some trouble getting the bios-chip of the MB. Use this only if you really know what you are doing Greetinx Atze EDIT: Just got the same idea at the same time :eek:

February 1st, 2003	#13 (permalink)
Kirby Politically incorrect FTW Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,445	I believe Unicron has the same mobo as me. Hell, if the bootable floppy doesn't work, I'm buying a new mobo. A piece of **** anyways. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic

February 1st, 2003	#14 (permalink)
Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,957	Kirby.. It does work. You said your floppy works right? But you have no video. Perhaps it is looking for your bios file. Try putting it on a floppy and sticking it in when you turn the computer on. I have done this before with an Award BIOS and it worked. I have also done this with a Compaq computer and it worked great. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 4MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5K Deluxe, Intel P35 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

February 1st, 2003	#15 (permalink)
Kirby Politically incorrect FTW Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,445	yup. The floppy does work. By what I heard, you put in a value in an autoexec.bat file, your BIOS file you want to flash, the flashing program, and some other files. It should automatically boot up and fix it. The only reason why video doesn't work is because it's only supported for ISA video cards. But the automation should do it just fine. When you come and think about it, this would of never happened if the electric company knew how to keep the juice flowing. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic Last edited by Kirby; February 1st, 2003 at 18:50.

February 1st, 2003	#16 (permalink)
Gamer1 Anti-Brand Loyalist Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Its too dark to tell... Posts: 3,237	give the electric company a big fat lawsuit!!! and see if they will replace your mobo. It's a long shot, but when you talk about lawsuits, companies crumble... __________________ Iris: (Proc:Intel Pentium4 2.8Ghz w/ HT UNLOCKED @ 15x200) (Mobo: Asus P4C800-E) (RAM: Corsair XMS 2x512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: Lite-On 16x DVD Burner 1673S) (GFX Card: Radeon 9800 All-In-Wonder Pro 128MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Audigy) Morrigan: (Proc:AMD Athlon 2500+ @ 11x200) (Mobo: Asrock K7V88) (RAM: Corsair XMS 512MB DDR400) (HDD 1: Seagate 80GB, 8MB Buffer, 7200 RPM) (Disk Drive 1: NEC 16x DVD Burner 3200AG) (GFX Card: Radeon 920064MB) (Sound Card: Sound Blaster Live! 5.1)

February 2nd, 2003	#18 (permalink)
Particleman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 462	You could go to http://www.badflash.com there they can either sell you a new chip altogether or reflash your old one. It's $20 USD for a new chip and $10 to get it reprogrammed though, so if you've got an older board it might just be better to get a whole new board.

February 4th, 2003	#19 (permalink)
Kirby Politically incorrect FTW Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,445	Good news That bootable floppy did work I had some troubles with my first try (all the files Han gave me) but I formatted a bootable floppy from my brother's computer, put in the files and the atuoexec, boot it up, and I'm back in business And about the new chip I bought, I bent alot of the pins while putting it in the slot (my bad) :blush: now I have to wait a week or 2 to take it back. __________________ AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic

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