FSAA on Radeons?

RF · January 31st, 2003

I found this tool called radeonator. Im just wondering if indeed my radeon can do fsaa? Is this even fsaa? (see screenie). Also what speeds should I set my card at? I know to increase it bit by bit but how fast should I increase it. Every five mins?

**Kane** · January 31st, 2003

Radeon 9000's can ideed do FSAA. They use the same super sampling method that 8500's use

January 31st, 2003

You have a Radeon 9000 Pro. Of course you can do full screen anti aliasing. Just use your ATi control panel. No need for additional software ^^

Radeon 9000/8500 support 2 sample. 4 sample and 6 sample Ordered Grid Super Sampling.

**cooliscool** · January 31st, 2003

Yeah, but super sampling AA causes quite a performance hit.

RF · January 31st, 2003

www.radeonator.cjb.net

Im wondering what tom_e and demigod have theirs set at.....even though this is a non pro. I just benchmarked and got 3700...(approx. I cant find the damn number in 3dmark, it was 3697 or something.)

RF · January 31st, 2003

Ehm, this isnt a pro. just a series.

Where is fsaa here? I dont see it only aniostrophic.

**Kane** · January 31st, 2003

Smoothvision.

RF · January 31st, 2003

With smoothvision it makes some stuff transparent, sometimes the floors are seethru and in splintercell you can see lights through walls etc.

January 31st, 2003

Strange, Smoothvision is anti aliasing. But it's only truly taken advantage of if someone codes for it.

If stuff is becoming transparent then it seems like a driver issue. Because I never experienced that kind of thing.

In Regards to my Radeon 8500 I try and keep 4x enabled on it. But generally. I can't do more than 2x. Performance hit is nasty. I would stick to 2x if I were you.

RF · January 31st, 2003

Alright, I got gta3 working. I found it was my amd drivers that were f'in it up b4 on my old xp install. I will put it on 4 and see what its like. Will I get any more fps if I push my card clock any higher, no higher then 275?

**Demigod** · January 31st, 2003

Yes, smoothvision is ATI's FSAA and I don't recommend using it, as it kills fps like no other

. It could be useful for older games (for psx emulation it could be acceptable) but not for newer ones. I just use 16x AF and leave it at that.

Badaro · January 31st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Reichfuher
With smoothvision it makes some stuff transparent, sometimes the floors are seethru and in splintercell you can see lights through walls etc.

Are you using the latest drivers? This is a bug I experienced with an older driver and UT2K3.

[]s Badaro

RF · January 31st, 2003

Yes 3.0. I think that only happend on the 2.5 drivers. On ut2k3 and splintercell...isnt happening anymore with GTA3.

e-ternity · January 31st, 2003

grrr.... this is pissing...
i got a 128mb r9000 pro but my computer keeps reading the mem size at 64mb..... why???? help me plz T_T

February 1st, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by iEvolutions
grrr.... this is pissing...
i got a 128mb r9000 pro but my computer keeps reading the mem size at 64mb..... why???? help me plz T_T

This is a bug with the Radeon 9700/9500 series as well. Just ignore it.

e-ternity · February 1st, 2003

icic
=)
lol somehow i got it fixed and its readin at 128 for now....

January 31st, 2003	#1 (permalink)
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,594	FSAA on Radeons? I found this tool called radeonator. Im just wondering if indeed my radeon can do fsaa? Is this even fsaa? (see screenie). Also what speeds should I set my card at? I know to increase it bit by bit but how fast should I increase it. Every five mins? __________________

January 31st, 2003	#2 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Radeon 9000's can ideed do FSAA. They use the same super sampling method that 8500's use __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

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cooliscool Natural medicine Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Redmond, Washington, USA Posts: 6,176	Yeah, but super sampling AA causes quite a performance hit. __________________ Fayt : Intel Core 2 Duo E4300 @ 3.06GHz (1360MHz FSB), 2GB Crucial DDR2-800 Dual Channel @ 800MHz 4-3-3-11-14 1T, 512MB BFG nVidia GeForce 7950GT OC @ 650/1600, Sound Blaster Audigy 2 ZS, MSI P6N-SLi - nVidia 650i SLi, 200GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, 80GB Seagate Barracuda 8MB Cache 7200RPM SATA2, Lite-On DVD+-RW 16x w/ Lightscribe, Lite-On 16x DVD-ROM, Aspire X-Dreamer II case, Logitech MX518 Optical Mouse, Asetek Waterchill kit (distilled water + Red Line Water Wetter), T.I.M - AS Ceramique

January 31st, 2003	#5 (permalink)
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,594	www.radeonator.cjb.net Im wondering what tom_e and demigod have theirs set at.....even though this is a non pro. I just benchmarked and got 3700...(approx. I cant find the damn number in 3dmark, it was 3697 or something.) __________________

January 31st, 2003	#6 (permalink)
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,594	Ehm, this isnt a pro. just a series. Where is fsaa here? I dont see it only aniostrophic. __________________

January 31st, 2003	#3 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	You have a Radeon 9000 Pro. Of course you can do full screen anti aliasing. Just use your ATi control panel. No need for additional software ^^ Radeon 9000/8500 support 2 sample. 4 sample and 6 sample Ordered Grid Super Sampling.

January 31st, 2003	#7 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	Smoothvision. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

January 31st, 2003	#8 (permalink)
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,594	With smoothvision it makes some stuff transparent, sometimes the floors are seethru and in splintercell you can see lights through walls etc. __________________

January 31st, 2003	#9 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Strange, Smoothvision is anti aliasing. But it's only truly taken advantage of if someone codes for it. If stuff is becoming transparent then it seems like a driver issue. Because I never experienced that kind of thing. In Regards to my Radeon 8500 I try and keep 4x enabled on it. But generally. I can't do more than 2x. Performance hit is nasty. I would stick to 2x if I were you.

January 31st, 2003	#10 (permalink)
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,594	Alright, I got gta3 working. I found it was my amd drivers that were f'in it up b4 on my old xp install. I will put it on 4 and see what its like. Will I get any more fps if I push my card clock any higher, no higher then 275? __________________

January 31st, 2003	#11 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	Yes, smoothvision is ATI's FSAA and I don't recommend using it, as it kills fps like no other. It could be useful for older games (for psx emulation it could be acceptable) but not for newer ones. I just use 16x AF and leave it at that. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

January 31st, 2003	#13 (permalink)
RF Canadian Spaceman Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 8,594	Yes 3.0. I think that only happend on the 2.5 drivers. On ut2k3 and splintercell...isnt happening anymore with GTA3. __________________

January 31st, 2003	#14 (permalink)
e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	grrr.... this is pissing... i got a 128mb r9000 pro but my computer keeps reading the mem size at 64mb..... why???? help me plz T_T __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY

February 1st, 2003	#16 (permalink)
e-ternity ... Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: bc, canada Posts: 499	icic =) lol somehow i got it fixed and its readin at 128 for now.... __________________ Main: a7n8x dlx / athlonXP 2100 / (1)pc2700 512mb/ seagate 80gb/ ati 8500le 64mb.... now ati 9600xt 128mb YAY

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