First GeForceFX review?

Particleman · January 26th, 2003

It's in german and you have to run it through babelfish, but it does have a lot of benchmarks. Personally to me something seems a bit wrong with this review, and I think it's best to wait for the reviews from the major sites like anand, tom, etc.

http://www.tecchannel.de/hardware/1109/

TalkingANUS · January 26th, 2003

hmm.. according to the benchmarks, the GF FX is not much faster than the Radeon 9700 Pro..
I agree that these benchmarks are not authentic

**Demigod** · January 27th, 2003

The GeForce FX is still a month away from release. It's too early for any authentic benchmarks on it. I don't expect the GeForce FX to pull off any miracles though. It has awesome fill rate compared to the Radeon 9700 Pro but doesn't have as high a memory bandwidth. It should be faster but not by a whole lot. It's not the R300 that Nvidia should be worried about though, but the upcoming R350. ATI's being very tight-lipped about it and I feel they may have something big planned for it. The R350 had taped out late last year and they should have received their first working silicon by now.

January 27th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Demigod
The GeForce FX is still a month away from release. It's too early for any authentic benchmarks on it. I don't expect the GeForce FX to pull off any miracles though. It has awesome fill rate compared to the Radeon 9700 Pro but doesn't have as high a memory bandwidth. It should be faster but not by a whole lot. It's not the R300 that Nvidia should be worried about though, but the upcoming R350. ATI's being very tight-lipped about it and I feel they may have something big planned for it. The R350 had taped out late last year and they should have received their first working silicon by now.

The r350 isn't a big secret, They plan on pulling 400 mhz with it and bigger memory. The architecture of the chip is not changing any actually.

Not like ther nv20 to nv25, Or the r200 to the r300.

It's basically a faster clocked chip with more memory. The r400 is what will be interesting. It's supposively prepared for the latest OpenGL extension being released ect.

But of course the r300 and nv30 are the fastest on the market.

Nvidia is just producing the Nv30 chip now. It's ready for release. I'm sure they are taping out the Nv35 as well. Which should have 256 bit DDR memory.

Particleman · January 27th, 2003

Well, the NDA is supposed to come off within the next 24 hours, so we will find out soon if these numbers are legit (if they are then it is a disapointment). The GeForceFX isn't that far off, if you preorder it you can get it in February. But it won't be widely available or available in retail until March.

K.I.L.E.R · January 27th, 2003

Those benchamarks have convinced some people they ar legit over at nVnews.
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...&threadid=6678

January 27th, 2003

I think these benches are accurate to be honest. I just saw another one with similar results.

God Nvidia should be ashamed of themselves. I am very very disapointed =\

January 27th, 2003

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...,846356,00.asp

Another Review showing similar results. I must say I am very disapointed =\

**Kane** · January 27th, 2003

heh. Remember the launch of the Voodoo 5? Slated as far too little too late. It seems apt that the first combination pruduct with 3dfx engineers should go the same route.

January 27th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by Kane
heh. Remember the launch of the Voodoo 5? Slated as far too little too late. It seems apt that the first combination pruduct with 3dfx engineers should go the same route.

Ha ha Call it poetic Justice I suppose..

K.I.L.E.R · January 27th, 2003

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1779&p=1
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDIx
http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030127/index.html
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...,846356,00.asp

OUCH!!!

K.I.L.E.R · January 27th, 2003

Quote:

Originally posted by ChrisRay
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...,846356,00.asp

Another Review showing similar results. I must say I am very disapointed =\

Just wait until the drivers mature.
You may not be as disapointed.

Ninjaa · January 27th, 2003

LMFAO! That's awesome. ATI just handed them their ass on a big platter.

January 27th, 2003

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1779

Another review. It is faster than a Radeon 9700., But not in FSAA or AF, AND the The RGMS Anti aliasing technique on the Radeon 9700 is superior IMO.

Demigod must be loving this ^^

P.S. btw the card is fine. It's FSAA is better than The Radeons. But the quality is slightly less. 8xS and 6xS don't do much in the ways of performance. I knew there was no way for Nvidia to pull these mods off at low performance loss.

Another note is that AF hasn't been improved nearly as much as I would liked it to have.l And it is what is killing the Geforce FX's performance

Ninjaa · January 27th, 2003

Bet you I am loving it just as much as Demigod.

K.I.L.E.R · January 27th, 2003

I love Demigod too.

Chris: http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...threadid=31350

January 27th, 2003

Hmm Toms hardware review is showing a different story.

It's showing the GeforceFX trouncing the ATi Radeon 9700 Pro in most benches.

KILLER. was there any need to make another thread? ^^

Overall I'd actually say the results are pretty satisfying for non mature drivers. And I consider tomshardware one of the most credible sites there is.

Also the Geforce FX 5800 (Non Ultra) will actually retail for 299 Dollars. Very well put up against the Radeon 9700 Non pro

P.S Sorry that they did not initially go up. I had to upload em to my server.

Btw these aren't even half the benchmarks. He tests in a buncha CPU limitated situations as well

Hanamichi · January 27th, 2003

LOL. And that's a 5 month old its competating with!
Had it been not offensive to do so Im sure that their final words would have been "Screw NVidia. Stick with ATI." :grin:
edit: downloaded the video from AnandTech and it sounds something like a Volcano7+ on high speed setting. Geez.

January 27th, 2003

Hmm HardOCP also shows the Geforce FX trouncing the Radeon 9700,

My defintion of trounce is a steady 10% lead btw ^^

I'm not seeing Nvidia hurting. Expecially with the Geforce FX 5800 Non Ultra being 299 Dollars. And stacking up against the Radeon 9700 Non Pro

Hanamichi · January 27th, 2003

Well it sounds awfull and is 5 months late. ATI's with something up their sleeve too.

Doesnt seem to be well overclockable too.

January 26th, 2003	#1 (permalink)
Particleman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 462	First GeForceFX review? It's in german and you have to run it through babelfish, but it does have a lot of benchmarks. Personally to me something seems a bit wrong with this review, and I think it's best to wait for the reviews from the major sites like anand, tom, etc. http://www.tecchannel.de/hardware/1109/

January 27th, 2003	#3 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	The GeForce FX is still a month away from release. It's too early for any authentic benchmarks on it. I don't expect the GeForce FX to pull off any miracles though. It has awesome fill rate compared to the Radeon 9700 Pro but doesn't have as high a memory bandwidth. It should be faster but not by a whole lot. It's not the R300 that Nvidia should be worried about though, but the upcoming R350. ATI's being very tight-lipped about it and I feel they may have something big planned for it. The R350 had taped out late last year and they should have received their first working silicon by now. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

January 27th, 2003	#6 (permalink)
K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	Those benchamarks have convinced some people they ar legit over at nVnews. http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/show...&threadid=6678 __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon.

January 27th, 2003	#9 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	heh. Remember the launch of the Voodoo 5? Slated as far too little too late. It seems apt that the first combination pruduct with 3dfx engineers should go the same route. __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

January 27th, 2003	#11 (permalink)
K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	GeforceFX legit reviews http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1779&p=1 http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NDIx http://www.tomshardware.com/graphic/20030127/index.html http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...,846356,00.asp OUCH!!! __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon.

January 27th, 2003	#5 (permalink)
Particleman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 462	Well, the NDA is supposed to come off within the next 24 hours, so we will find out soon if these numbers are legit (if they are then it is a disapointment). The GeForceFX isn't that far off, if you preorder it you can get it in February. But it won't be widely available or available in retail until March.

January 27th, 2003	#7 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	I think these benches are accurate to be honest. I just saw another one with similar results. God Nvidia should be ashamed of themselves. I am very very disapointed =\

January 27th, 2003	#8 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	http://www.extremetech.com/article2/...,846356,00.asp Another Review showing similar results. I must say I am very disapointed =\

January 27th, 2003	#13 (permalink)
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 0	LMFAO! That's awesome. ATI just handed them their ass on a big platter.

January 27th, 2003	#14 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1779 Another review. It is faster than a Radeon 9700., But not in FSAA or AF, AND the The RGMS Anti aliasing technique on the Radeon 9700 is superior IMO. Demigod must be loving this ^^ P.S. btw the card is fine. It's FSAA is better than The Radeons. But the quality is slightly less. 8xS and 6xS don't do much in the ways of performance. I knew there was no way for Nvidia to pull these mods off at low performance loss. Another note is that AF hasn't been improved nearly as much as I would liked it to have.l And it is what is killing the Geforce FX's performance Last edited by ChrisRay; January 27th, 2003 at 08:49.

January 27th, 2003	#15 (permalink)
Ninjaa Banned Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Soviet Canuckistan Posts: 0	Bet you I am loving it just as much as Demigod.

January 27th, 2003	#16 (permalink)
K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	I love Demigod too. Chris: http://www.ngemu.com/forums/showthre...threadid=31350 __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon.

January 27th, 2003	#17 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Hmm Toms hardware review is showing a different story. It's showing the GeforceFX trouncing the ATi Radeon 9700 Pro in most benches. KILLER. was there any need to make another thread? ^^ Overall I'd actually say the results are pretty satisfying for non mature drivers. And I consider tomshardware one of the most credible sites there is. Also the Geforce FX 5800 (Non Ultra) will actually retail for 299 Dollars. Very well put up against the Radeon 9700 Non pro P.S Sorry that they did not initially go up. I had to upload em to my server. Btw these aren't even half the benchmarks. He tests in a buncha CPU limitated situations as well Last edited by ChrisRay; January 27th, 2003 at 09:14.

January 27th, 2003	#18 (permalink)
Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,562	LOL. And that's a 5 month old its competating with! Had it been not offensive to do so Im sure that their final words would have been "Screw NVidia. Stick with ATI." :grin: edit: downloaded the video from AnandTech and it sounds something like a Volcano7+ on high speed setting. Geez. Last edited by Hanamichi; January 27th, 2003 at 09:33.

January 27th, 2003	#19 (permalink)
ChrisRay Guest Posts: n/a	Hmm HardOCP also shows the Geforce FX trouncing the Radeon 9700, My defintion of trounce is a steady 10% lead btw ^^ I'm not seeing Nvidia hurting. Expecially with the Geforce FX 5800 Non Ultra being 299 Dollars. And stacking up against the Radeon 9700 Non Pro

January 27th, 2003	#20 (permalink)
Hanamichi Crotally Tazy Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 4,562	Well it sounds awfull and is 5 months late. ATI's with something up their sleeve too. Doesnt seem to be well overclockable too.

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