GeForceFX

[BaD_BURN]

Uh, can someone elaborate on this one, please?

There are 51,000,000,000 floating point operations per second in the pixel shader alone. That can render 100 Jurassic Park dinosaurs at 100 frames per second.

The FX can render that many and that fast?!?

[Shiori]

Depends on how big the dino is I guess.

[dhkimboa]

quite true

[Sampah]

well, I think it means that GeforceFX has a power that can render 100 dino at 100 frame(full frame without slowing down) which not a usuall Graphics card could do maybe Geforce4 ti4600 only able to handle around 50 dino, and has "51,000,000,000 floating point operations per second in the pixel shader alone" means GeforceFX can do/execute 51.000.000.000 operation or instruction in Pixel shader, I don't think DirectX8.1 games have this much instruction, GeforceFX is just too powerfull. and it's true FX is fast, faster than radeon 9700 but ATI is not going to let FX get away with it.

[dhkimboa]

I know what he meant
just couldn't stop laughing after that

[campi]

I don't see whats funny, he was just demonstrating the power of the GFFX, and Jurassic Park dinos are a good reference

[Player-X]

If I just have one word to describe the NV30 the word would be:[SIZE=4000 ]OVERKILL[/size]

[Drachenfels]

Originally posted by Player-X
If I just have one word to describe the NV30 the word would be:[SIZE=4000 ]OVERHYPE[/size]

I've corrected you.

[Craig Venom]

why don't you just say OVERPRESENT?

[Demigod]

Originally posted by Drachenfels


I've corrected you.

I agree. The NV30 is just so completely overhyped. It won't be any more revolutionary than the GeForce 4 was to the GeForce 3. If you take a look at its specs and features it's obvious that it's nothing more than a faster R300. If you already own a Radeon 9700 Pro there's really no need to get a GeForceFX, unless you really need to play Quake 3 at 400 fps, as opposed to 300 fps.

[Drachenfels]

GeforceFX is an improvement to gf4/3 like the gf3 was to the gf2.
Also, it will probably have less compatibility issues then the radeon.
It has some extra features that go beyond dx9, but I doubt any games will require/make use of them.

Anyway, I'll probably end up with a r300 next year spring. A xp2600+ should hopefully be enough for it.

[Demigod]

Yes, the GeForceFX is a huge improvement over the GF4 but not to the Radeon 9700. It's faster and has some extra features but you can only expect that from a product released 6 months after the R300. And I've not really heard of any incompatibility issues with the Radeon 9700. Unlike the 8500 the 9700 is built very similar to Nvidia cards.

[Craig Venom]

yeah, but the 9000 also have some incompatiblity...

[zukeft]

ATM, I've only seen one issue and that was with Maya, although with the 6200 drivers, all's well (heck, it's still a new card so bugs are bound to pop up). I really can't complain about the performance, not to mention I really don't have anything to compare it to (my previous PC had a S3 Trio 64v+ integrated card). I am glad that I am able to run all of my games @ 1024x768 with 16X Aniso and 6X AA.

Anyway, when it comes down to buying a 9700 Pro or the GeForceFX, to get the most out of it you will need to buy a fast processor. I honestly don't know if the 9700 Pro would produce the same results as a Ti4600 on my XP 2100+.

[dhkimboa]

mine mine.....
I just laughted because Shiori's comment was funny... that's all....

where's your sense of humor :eek:

[Demigod]

Originally posted by Craig Venom
yeah, but the 9000 also have some incompatiblity...

That's no brainer, it's based on the R200 (8500) core.

[Sampah]

of course there is a huge improvement from Geforce4, that's what GeforceFX is out right? I don't think that's the only reason, GeforceFX is a nice tool to make a good profit for Nvidia!!!

[Demigod]

GeForceFX will not make a profit for Nvidia. It's just to be competitive with ATI. Only a very small number of consumers actually buy high-end cards like the Radeon 9700 Pro and the GeForceFX. Most of the money is made in the value and mid-rage markets. Currently Nvidia's two biggest money-making products are the GeForce 4 MX 440 and the GeForce 4 Ti 4200. This is why ATI has put so much effort into making sure the Radeon 9500 Pro is a success, since it'll be making most of the money.

[Hanamichi]

The Radeon9500PRO owns the GF4's with AA and AF turned on though. The only card Nvidia has superior to the 9500PRO will be the GFFX. Most informed gamer would choose the Radeon over the GF4's, so I wonder what will nVidia do about this?

[Demigod]

Hmm, well benchmarks show mixed results with the Radeon 9500 Pro. It's performance is between a GF4 Ti 4400 and 4600. However, in certain CPU-limited situations it can even beat out a Radeon 9700 Pro, due to its drivers optimizations (although these drivers won't do any good for the 9700s). It also has awesome FSAA and AF performance though, as Han mentioned. I think it's an interesting product, and will give the GF4 a run for its money. It's a nice, cheaper alternative to the Radeon 9700. Now I just gotta wait for it to arrive in Canada.