Possible New Video Card

[Esturk]

Originally posted by Ninja


What's the matter with it? You have my dream video card, so I am just kind of curious.

That's exactly what I want to know!

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[average_guy]

money probally

[Demigod]

Originally posted by average_guy
gf4ti4600 is enough for anygame at this time, so why would he need R9700 PRO?

Perhaps because of the superior image quality, superior hardware DVD/MPEG-2 acceleration and the smart adaptive anisotropic filtering he gets with the Radeon 9700? That last point is especially true. Anything beyond 16-tap (4x) kills GF4 cards while ATI cards handle even 64-tap (16x) aniso with ease. It's said that once you go FSAA and aniso you never go back, and the Radeon 9700 excels in those fields.

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Demigod I believe you have your anistropic Filtering a bit skewed.

16-tap should be 2x, 32-tap 4x, 64-tap 8x and maybe 128-tap 16x?

According to my drivers at least.

Btw Demi. You reaally should take a look at the DVD quality on geforce 4 cards.. I'm serious. It's such an improvement it's not even funny.. My First geforce 4 card finally allowed me to take my DVD decoder card out of my computer..

Even guru3d.com and tomshardware have noted the huge improvements.

[average_guy]

ATI is known for DVD playback

Yes, I'm aware of that. But Nvidia took a lot of time to improve geforce 4 playback.

[dogulation000]

Originally posted by ChrisRay
Yes, I'm aware of that. But Nvidia took a lot of time to improve geforce 4 playback.

I know that too. But ATI is known for their superior DVD playback, even if Geforce 4 is good at it.

And I'm not so surprised by ATI's anistropic Filtering. They have been known have some of the anistropic Filtering around.

Originally posted by dogulation000


I know that too. But ATI is known for their superior DVD playback, even if Geforce 4 is good at it.

And I'm not so surprised by ATI's anistropic Filtering. They have been known have some of the anistropic Filtering around.

Touche, I'm simply stating don't note Geforce 4 Ti DVD playback as "poor" for its anything but poor compared to its predecessors.

[Esturk]

GeForce 4 is better for games and emulation right?

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Eh. Not really esturk. The Ati radeon 9700 pro is currently the best contender on the market.

[dogulation000]

Geforce 4 WERE the best for emulation.

ATI Radeon 9700 Pro was designed very much liked Geforce cards plus with their own tweaks from ATI's usual strengths.

ATi Radeon 9700 pro doesn't neccasarily produce a better image quality than a geforce 4 Ti in emulation. They both multi sample. 4xS FSAA and 6x FSAA produce very similar results.

The Radeon is "slightly" faster at fsaa now than the geforce 4 Ti is. The difference is marginal. Not like the anistropic Filtering difference.

Both cards are extremely good for emulation however.

[Esturk]

Seems like ATI is the King. I wonder what the NV30 is going to be like compared to Radeon 9700 Pro?

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until nov 18th. Everyone but Nvidia will be "wondering"

[Demigod]

Originally posted by dogulation000
Geforce 4 WERE the best for emulation.

ATI Radeon 9700 Pro was designed very much liked Geforce cards plus with their own tweaks from ATI's usual strengths.

I'm not so sure about that. A lot of people would say the Voodoo 5 were the best for emulation (at least PSX emulation). The GF4 are nice but still can't do certain effects as well as the Voodoo 5 (frame buffer effects, swirls in FF7, FF9, etc.).

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[dogulation000]

Originally posted by Demigod79
I'm not so sure about that. A lot of people would say the Voodoo 5 were the best for emulation (at least PSX emulation). The GF4 are nice but still can't do certain effects as well as the Voodoo 5 (frame buffer effects, swirls in FF7, FF9, etc.).

Voodoo 5's WERE good for PSX emulation. There's a new king in town, and it's the Radeon 9700 Pro. All good things must eventually come to an end.

[Demigod]

Originally posted by dogulation000
Voodoo 5's WERE good for PSX emulation. There's a new king in town, and it's the Radeon 9700 Pro. All good things must eventually come to an end.

What do you mean? The Voodoo 5 are still very good for PSX emulation. Most of the new features of the Radeon 9700 Pro aren't applicable to psx emulation (anisotropic filtering, FFPU, DX9 programming). It's more optimized for PC games in general.

*fivefeet8 or Lord Kane should be jumping into the discussion right about now*

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[dogulation000]

Originally posted by Demigod79
What do you mean? The Voodoo 5 are still very good for PSX emulation. Most of the new features of the Radeon 9700 Pro aren't applicable to psx emulation (anisotropic filtering, FFPU, DX9 programming). It's more optimized for PC games in general.

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Well, they aren't currently available.

Well, your right about that, but Voodoo 5 is only good with Glide, and it's only decent in DX and OpenGL.

And besides, I meant OVERALL that the Voodoo 5 isn't good anymore.

I retract my statement that Voodoo 5 isn't useful for PSx emulation. :embl:

[average_guy]

Originally posted by Demigod79
What do you mean? The Voodoo 5 are still very good for PSX emulation. Most of the new features of the Radeon 9700 Pro aren't applicable to psx emulation (anisotropic filtering, FFPU, DX9 programming). It's more optimized for PC games in general.

*fivefeet8 or Lord Kane should be jumping into the discussion right about now*

:o people can never forget about the good old vodoo

[hoyoyo80]

Originally posted by Craig Venom


Well, i'm not truly gamer, lets say i'm a 'perfomance maniac'.

agree agree...just want to see its quality...of course i try it with all my games...mmm geforce2 mx460 better than gf2ti200?I hope not coz gf4mx 460 is getting cheaper now...

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