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[Demigod]

If you knew the extend to which the natives are oppressed you'd never say that. We treated them like savages and tore their culture and lives apart, trading them tobacco and other junk for fur. We also brought along foreign diseases for which they were ill-prepared for. We forbid things like buffalo hunting and fishing and defined many of their activities as sinful and wrong. In the end the native have lost their pride, their home, their culture, they lost everything because of us. I've been to some native reserves before and mingled with some of the residents and I can see the kind of pain they live with. I remember one of them (half french, half native) who recalled his father saying it's never done him one damn good being a native, and he's completely right.

In what way did the British change things for the better? Exactly what are you basing that on?

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[average_guy]

most native students in my school carring cell phone, and just who invented cell phones? i don't know but what i do know is its not a native person.

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Hey! there are some "Native" members in this forum, so i suggest you respect thier postion, instead of attacking them this way because of small number of fools around ya. That doesnt mean that all Natives are bad. This is going off topic, so end of disccussion, no more "politcal" talk......

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[average_guy]

Originally posted by Kingstar
Hey! there are some "Native" members in this forum, so i suggest you respect thier postion, instead of attacking them this way because of small number of fools around ya. That doesnt mean that all Natives are bad. This is going off topic, so end of disccussion, no more "politcal" talk......

if you read my posts above, you should know i was talking about MOST (not all) native drainning our tax money. what i said about cell phones is a reply for Demigod79, he asked "In what way did the British change things for the better?" Cell phones is one of the good things the British bring.

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Cell phones were not only brought up by britsh. I am not gonna add more, but just to say that taxes are everywhere in canada. Im in Nova Scotia province and most of us come from Scotish Background and few natives live here. Yet, we still pay our 15% tax

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the popular and easy way. Standing for right when it is unpopular is a true test of moral character.
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[average_guy]

too bad i don't live in Alberta, 7% tax, but their income tax is also high though.

[Demigod]

I agree that British/english societies are more advanced (industrial) than most others but it doesn't necessarily make it better. The natives lived more in "tune" with nature, if you know what I mean. They took what nature gave them and made use of their available resources. They didn't clear cut entire forests and pollute lakes with toxic chemicals like we do. Industrial societies like ours tend to destroy wildlife and their natural habitats and drain the land of all its resources, doing a huge amount of damage to the earth in the process. Hell we even managed to punch a hole in the ozone layer with all the carbon we pump into the air. Human beings are like a virus upon the earth and while societies like ours are largely destructive there are other societies that live more naturally. Although most westerners would call them primitive and uncivilized I find the lifestyle of natives and other tribal societies rather quaint and appeasing. Just because they don't have high tech gadgets and big cities doesn't mean they're any less civilized. It's just a different style of living.

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[average_guy]

but if you ever ask a native student if he/she would rather live a kind life style before technology/british came over here, he/she would say no. Once you have all it, you can never go back.

[Ninjaa]

Originally posted by average_guy



when england occupy HongKong for 100 years, did those Chinese live off the government? NO! They worked hard and became rich, when Chinese government taken back HongKong some feared of their money might be taken away so some fleed to Canada and bought houses here. Those native have no excuess for living off the Canadian Government just because they were here first, besides, the British did change Canada for the better.

Actually, you white people give us money as the result of the peace treaty between our peoples.

Let me give it to you this way:

1) Christopher Columbus comes to America, brings disease, and a bunch of gold hungry barbarians with him.

2) Indians get killed for the purposes of collecting gold, food, pillaging, rape, etc.

3) Indians fight back, and start kicking some butt.

4) White people sign treaty that makes sure that we stop killing them in return for them leaving us with some land for ourselves, and some money to make up for taking all of our land.

Is it fair? Of course not. Not to either side.

But it's sort of like this that things went. The indians definately got the ****ty end of the stick on this one, and now the white people are just pissed because they actually have to make atones for what they did years ago.

Personally, I could care less. I would be screwed without the money that the government gives me, and I most certainly would not be in school without it.

[Demigod]

Originally posted by average_guy
but if you ever ask a native student if he/she would rather live a kind life style before technology/british came over here, he/she would say no. Once you have all it, you can never go back.

Of course not. Technology spoils people and a lot of natives are abandoning their old ways because it's no longer feasible. It doesn't do any good to be a native nowadays so many choose to adopt the western life style instead, just so they can make something of themselves.

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[Ninjaa]

I forgot to mention. Thanks for sticking up for my people Demigod.

Average Guy, one last thing. Quebec is the province that sucks up most of Canada's tax money. Blame them if you must blame someone.

[Shiori]

Is Canada still a nice place to live in, notwithstanding all this talk about natives and such?

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[Ninjaa]

Canada is great overall. The weather varies from place to place, from semi-tropical to colder than a polar bear's feces, but it's usually quite nice.

The government is corrupt as hell.

Video Games take extra time to get to Canada due to the language barrier. The instruction books must be included in French as well. That takes time. Some games never make it at all.

People are generally a lot more tolerant for other cultures than the average American but of course there are exceptions.

Our dollar is worth dick all, so buying some items can be expensive, as they are priced according to the US dollar. (Such as video cards)

It's a very big country. If you are from a more crowded area, it will take some getting used to the open-ness of it all. Most everything is very far apart, and that pretty much requires you to have a vehicle.

We are a socialist country, so most of our medical and crap is paid for.

Yeah, it's pretty nice overall, but I'm still moving to the US as soon as I'm done school.

Yeah, it's pretty nice overall, but I'm still moving to the US as soon as I'm done school

Doh Canadians on my soil! gah What makes you think the US is a non tolerant country? curious.

[Shiori]

My family is thinking of immigrating there (most probably Montreal) after I graduate from college, so I thought I might as well ask some actual Canadians on what it's really like over there.

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[yakumo fujii]

Hey Ninja isn't it VERY HARD to find work in Canada? Thought I heard that before.
Finding work in U.S is hard now as well........

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[Shiori]

Finding work is easy enough if you know where to look, but if you're looking for something white-collar, then that would be pretty hard in these hard times.

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"...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

What the White man did to the Native Americans both in Canada and the USA is deplorable. What the man did to the Africans is deplorable. The White man has always thought that he was superior to the other races, if they didn't look like, act like, speak like, live like, or think like him, then they must have been inferior to him. This is the way the White's thought and the way that many still do feel to this day. The Native Americans and the Africans had pride, dignity, and a unique culture. The White man took that from them, stripped them of it acually. So is it any wonder that the Native Americans and the African Americans feel that the White Man owes them something? I feel the White's do and I am a White man whose ancestors on my mother's side (they were English) were responsible for this as were other Whites. I am ashamed of this and I apologize for it. Average Guy, you are wrong as far as I am concerned and Ninja and Demigod are correct.
Now, since this thread has strayed way off topic and entered a, possibly, quite sensitive area, I am going to close this thread.
sincerely,
sx/amiga