Overclocking a Duron 800

**Kellicros** · July 25th, 2002

I had just read somewhere about a Duron 600 have been successfully overclocked to 1.2ghz with no problem, with great cooling system of course. I am getting envy of this, got a better fan and tried to overclock my Duron 800 to 888, however my pc don't even start, after that I dropped down a bit. It boots but is very unstable, in other word, crashing all the time. Even though my cpu temperature is only arround 40 celcius degrees. Anyone know where I did it wrong? Any comment would be greatly appreciated. BTW, I am new to cpu overclocking and this is my first time on it.

**Shiori** · July 25th, 2002

You don't get to 1200 without unlocking it, and changing the multiplier. It's a combination of both multiplier and FSB values. I'm thinking he changed it to a multiplier of 10 and the FSB to 124.

I once changed a Duron 850 to 950 simply by changing the FSB to 112. It can't finish 3DMark, but it's stable for most other uses.

JAZ · July 25th, 2002

Some chips clock better than others thats all.
Heat is far from the only issue you have to take into account
ie =
Is your ram good enough to run at the higher fsb ?
Is there enough voltage going to the cpu to power the extra your trying to clock it to?
Can your pci/agp cards handle being run out of spec?
etc etc etc
Since it wont even boot at 888 then I'd say either the chips just average or your memorys not great, go in your bios and see if you can up the cpu voltage then try again.
My athlon 1000 (10x100) can run at over 1400 but I've kept it at 1200(9x133) for ages but only because my usb allways fails at around 140mhz bus and as I use my usb>psx convertor a lot I'd rather have a comprimised speed so I can use it.

Esturk · July 25th, 2002

Don't bother overclocking. Just buy a Duron 1200 if you want it that bad. They're very cheap.

**Demigod** · July 25th, 2002

Some Celerons can also overclock to twice their speed but they're extremely rare. The chances you'll actually come across such a CPU are close to nil. As JAZ said, heat isn't the only issue when overclocking. Each individual CPU has their limit and when you reach that limit no amount of cooling will help. Some voltage tweaks might, but playing with the voltage is very dangerous and is not recommended. If yours don't overclock much then don't bother with it.

average_guy · July 26th, 2002

don't mass with voltage, so u don't fry ur chip

felpax · July 26th, 2002

I really don't understand...Why overclocking a Duron ? I'm not going to make any comments about this crazy attitude ( Ok, I made a comment !!! ) !!!

**Kellicros** · July 26th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by felpax
I really don't understand...Why overclocking a Duron ? I'm not going to make any comments about this crazy attitude ( Ok, I made a comment !!! ) !!!

I am just a student and haven't got a job. No money for a new proccessor. My parrents doesnt want to pay for it since my current system is running great. I am trying to get more speed on overclocking and that's all. That simple.

grahf · July 26th, 2002

Watch out when you decide to overclock the FBS. Some people just think that the FBS of the mobo only controls the CPU, but that's a very wrong and dangerous assumption to have, because the FBS also controls the ram, pci, videocard as well. Simply put, if you somehow set your FBS to an odd value that's not supported by those components, then chances are you'll likely end up frying them before the CPU even overheats. Take for example the PCI slots, it work on a 33mhz frenquency. Let's say you unknowingly set your FBS to 75, unknowingly increasing the PCI speed by a couple of mhz, making it run at 37.5. Now this might not seem like much, but at this speed, you're severely overheating the PCI and stressing it beyond it's recommended setting. Result is you'll likely burn it up in a couple of hours. This is just one of the many dangerous that people are unaware of, especially those who use their computer daily.

I suggest you look more into this matter before doing something you might regret. There are alot of online reference to help you, so don't take any unneccesary risks.

Ali · July 26th, 2002

Well as far as I know, overclocking need you to take care of two factors.

1) Heat
2) Power

Maybe one of these is creating a little problem for you.

aLI

K.I.L.E.R · July 26th, 2002

I had my PCI running at something like 40mhz (roughly) and it worked fine. Only thing is that my onboard sound didn't work when it was at that speed. :eek:

**Kellicros** · July 26th, 2002

Damn it, I thought all I have to care of when overclocking is the heat problem. I can't find a way change my cpu voltage, it's not in the BIOS, looked into my mainboard's manual, but it's not there.

Think I will just leave it as it. Thanks for the comments, guys, I appreciated.

**Shiori** · July 26th, 2002

It's likely that voltage mainipulation is not supported by your mobo. The best OC boards usually have them in the BIOS, and some by dipswitches. You still have to unlock it to modify anything though.

**Kellicros** · July 26th, 2002

I found the voltage infor inside the "PC Health" of my bios, but I couldn't change it.

GuardianAli · July 26th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by felpax
I really don't understand...Why overclocking a Duron ? I'm not going to make any comments about this crazy attitude ( Ok, I made a comment !!! ) !!!

number of reasons.
For instance, even on my AthlonXp2100+ I still overclock cause I encode Divx movies. And every little bit can cut down on time it takes to encode the movie.
And alot of games are still dependent on the cpu for AI, and T&L.

Then there is the money involved. Save 50 bucks and over clock 600 to 800

< / end real advice>
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< humor >
But you know how it goes, people always want something for free. Next time your in 7eleven..GRAB AND RUN!!!

Esturk · July 26th, 2002

Don't bother with the voltage. It is not a good idea.

GuardianAli · July 26th, 2002

actually you want to mess with the voltage...usually if the processor wont boot or seems to hang on a higher cloclk, a higher voltage will correct the issue cause its needs more juice.

JAZ · July 26th, 2002

Quote:

Don't bother with the voltage. It is not a good idea.

Overclocking only needs a small voltage increase, I mean we are talking about increasing the voltage from 1.6 to 1.7 or 1.8 which has a very very small risk of damaging the chip its not as if he would modify his motherboard so he's putting up to say 2.1 through it.
Mines at 1.8 from the stock 1.6 and its been like that for more than a year with no problems and if my motherboard supported or I had the tools and experiance with soldering I'd modify it and stick even more voltage through it to get it even faster.

felpax · July 26th, 2002

I don't see any problem with your configuration, you can run excellent programs or games, Evil. Now, with your last reply, I understand why ... Maybe this bad notice about your voltage ( you can't change it, is that right ? ) was , in my opinion , a warning.Do the right thing. But I really wish you to have the maximum performance on your PC , right ? Take it easy, you're gonna make it...

**Demigod** · July 26th, 2002

I tried overclocking my CPU but had to constantly increase the voltage to get higher speeds. From 1.65v I upped it to around 1.85v before I decided to call it quits. I asked some people on the firingsquad forum and they said don't mess with it. I think a 0.2v increase is acceptable but from 0.3v an onwards you run the risk of doing some very serious damage to your CPU. Excess electricity and heat will kill your CPU in a hurry.

July 25th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Kellicros Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Posts: 7,684	Overclocking a Duron 800 I had just read somewhere about a Duron 600 have been successfully overclocked to 1.2ghz with no problem, with great cooling system of course. I am getting envy of this, got a better fan and tried to overclock my Duron 800 to 888, however my pc don't even start, after that I dropped down a bit. It boots but is very unstable, in other word, crashing all the time. Even though my cpu temperature is only arround 40 celcius degrees. Anyone know where I did it wrong? Any comment would be greatly appreciated. BTW, I am new to cpu overclocking and this is my first time on it. __________________ Kellicros' DeviantArt

July 25th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	You don't get to 1200 without unlocking it, and changing the multiplier. It's a combination of both multiplier and FSB values. I'm thinking he changed it to a multiplier of 10 and the FSB to 124. I once changed a Duron 850 to 950 simply by changing the FSB to 112. It can't finish 3DMark, but it's stable for most other uses. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

July 25th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,957	Don't bother overclocking. Just buy a Duron 1200 if you want it that bad. They're very cheap. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 4MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5K Deluxe, Intel P35 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

July 25th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	Some Celerons can also overclock to twice their speed but they're extremely rare. The chances you'll actually come across such a CPU are close to nil. As JAZ said, heat isn't the only issue when overclocking. Each individual CPU has their limit and when you reach that limit no amount of cooling will help. Some voltage tweaks might, but playing with the voltage is very dangerous and is not recommended. If yours don't overclock much then don't bother with it. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

July 26th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
grahf Weltall Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 458	Watch out when you decide to overclock the FBS. Some people just think that the FBS of the mobo only controls the CPU, but that's a very wrong and dangerous assumption to have, because the FBS also controls the ram, pci, videocard as well. Simply put, if you somehow set your FBS to an odd value that's not supported by those components, then chances are you'll likely end up frying them before the CPU even overheats. Take for example the PCI slots, it work on a 33mhz frenquency. Let's say you unknowingly set your FBS to 75, unknowingly increasing the PCI speed by a couple of mhz, making it run at 37.5. Now this might not seem like much, but at this speed, you're severely overheating the PCI and stressing it beyond it's recommended setting. Result is you'll likely burn it up in a couple of hours. This is just one of the many dangerous that people are unaware of, especially those who use their computer daily. I suggest you look more into this matter before doing something you might regret. There are alot of online reference to help you, so don't take any unneccesary risks. __________________ SIS motherboard \| WindowsXP pro \| Athlon XP 2200+(1.8 Ghz) IBM 120gb 7200rpm \| 512Mb DDR PC2100 @133mhz \| C-media 3d sound\| Pixelview geforce4ti4200 64mb\| 12x8x32x CDRW \| 300watt power supply Last edited by grahf; July 26th, 2002 at 08:17.

July 25th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
JAZ Nintendo Zealot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,424	Some chips clock better than others thats all. Heat is far from the only issue you have to take into account ie = Is your ram good enough to run at the higher fsb ? Is there enough voltage going to the cpu to power the extra your trying to clock it to? Can your pci/agp cards handle being run out of spec? etc etc etc Since it wont even boot at 888 then I'd say either the chips just average or your memorys not great, go in your bios and see if you can up the cpu voltage then try again. My athlon 1000 (10x100) can run at over 1400 but I've kept it at 1200(9x133) for ages but only because my usb allways fails at around 140mhz bus and as I use my usb>psx convertor a lot I'd rather have a comprimised speed so I can use it.

July 26th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
average_guy Banned Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 0	don't mass with voltage, so u don't fry ur chip

July 26th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
felpax Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Posts: 45	I really don't understand...Why overclocking a Duron ? I'm not going to make any comments about this crazy attitude ( Ok, I made a comment !!! ) !!!

July 26th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Ali CoLD InSiDE Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 2,613	Well as far as I know, overclocking need you to take care of two factors. 1) Heat 2) Power Maybe one of these is creating a little problem for you. aLI __________________ AMD Athlon XP 2100 @ 1.75 Ghz Gigabyte GA-7VA.XP VIA K400 1.25GB PC3200 System Ram ChainTech GeForCe4 TI 4200 128MB Creative SB Live! 5.1 2x WD Caviar 120GBs and -Rom1 Maxtor 40GB LiteON 16x DVD-Rw WindowsXP Professional-SP2 & Mandrake Linux

July 26th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	I had my PCI running at something like 40mhz (roughly) and it worked fine. Only thing is that my onboard sound didn't work when it was at that speed. :eek: __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon.

July 26th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
Kellicros Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Posts: 7,684	Damn it, I thought all I have to care of when overclocking is the heat problem. I can't find a way change my cpu voltage, it's not in the BIOS, looked into my mainboard's manual, but it's not there. Think I will just leave it as it. Thanks for the comments, guys, I appreciated. __________________ Kellicros' DeviantArt

July 26th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	It's likely that voltage mainipulation is not supported by your mobo. The best OC boards usually have them in the BIOS, and some by dipswitches. You still have to unlock it to modify anything though. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

July 26th, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Kellicros Administrator Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. Posts: 7,684	I found the voltage infor inside the "PC Health" of my bios, but I couldn't change it. __________________ Kellicros' DeviantArt

July 26th, 2002	#16 (permalink)
Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,957	Don't bother with the voltage. It is not a good idea. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 4MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5K Deluxe, Intel P35 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

July 26th, 2002	#17 (permalink)
GuardianAli Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 120	actually you want to mess with the voltage...usually if the processor wont boot or seems to hang on a higher cloclk, a higher voltage will correct the issue cause its needs more juice. __________________

July 26th, 2002	#19 (permalink)
felpax Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Rio de Janeiro, Brazil Posts: 45	I don't see any problem with your configuration, you can run excellent programs or games, Evil. Now, with your last reply, I understand why ... Maybe this bad notice about your voltage ( you can't change it, is that right ? ) was , in my opinion , a warning.Do the right thing. But I really wish you to have the maximum performance on your PC , right ? Take it easy, you're gonna make it...

July 26th, 2002	#20 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	I tried overclocking my CPU but had to constantly increase the voltage to get higher speeds. From 1.65v I upped it to around 1.85v before I decided to call it quits. I asked some people on the firingsquad forum and they said don't mess with it. I think a 0.2v increase is acceptable but from 0.3v an onwards you run the risk of doing some very serious damage to your CPU. Excess electricity and heat will kill your CPU in a hurry. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

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