Help me fix my brothers computer before I rip his head off

**Kirby** · July 22nd, 2002

This is ticking me off. He won't stop asking, but I have no clue either. Hopefully, someone can help:

It all started a week ago when he got a "stack" error when he started up 98. When he shut down the computer and turned it back on, it actually won't boot to 98, but freeze at the IDE connector check. He got it to work once before, but I have no idea how he did it, but as soon as he restarted, it will freeze at the same place again.

Here's my brother's specs:

Windows 98 1st edition
400MHZ AMD K6-2
8GB hard drive
64MB ram
Permedia 2 video card
Sound: ???

Anyone has any ideas?

**ammoQ** · July 22nd, 2002

Check all cables. If this doesn´t help, check all cables again. Check the PCI cards too.

**Bgnome** · July 22nd, 2002

sounds like his HD died..

Recca · July 22nd, 2002

How could it be his HDD if it started up again once and then the same error

**Demigod** · July 22nd, 2002

Try going into the BIOS and manually setting the IDE devices. You can also try resetting or flashing the BIOS. Test his hard drive as well. Take it out and plug it into your computer and see if it works.

**Shiori** · July 22nd, 2002

I would also think it's faulty RAM.

**Kirby** · July 22nd, 2002

I should of said earlier that if he does get it up and running, there is a good chance that it will go to BSOD very soon

**Betamax** · July 22nd, 2002

I'd try reseating the memory sticks. They might be a little loose.

Recca · July 22nd, 2002

My knowlegde with this isn't very good. But you could try reinstalling the OS

Esturk · July 22nd, 2002

You say he gets a Stack error eh? Here's a link to Microsoft, about Stack errors in 98. Maybe it can help you. http://support.microsoft.com/default...EN-US;q145799&

**Shiori** · July 22nd, 2002

It hangs at POST. So it ain't the OS.

Esturk · July 22nd, 2002

But it is due to the OS. Probably a stack overflow error. I once had them.

Endimion · July 23rd, 2002

Slimshady can you give us the Make and Model of the HardDrive? It'll help a lot, I had a similar problem with an old Quantum 4 Gb HDD but I need more info about your drive. You can download Quantum Disk Manager (try to download the oldest version... YES! the oldest.. is the only one with the thing you need) from your HDD site and run some tests.

Quatro · July 23rd, 2002

Try checking the HD in other PC and make it the primary HD. If it still occurs with the same problem... then there is something wrong with the HD.

Endimion · July 23rd, 2002

But that will REALLY CONFUSE Windows98.. unless the other PC has EXACTLY the same hardware config.

Quatro · July 23rd, 2002

You will just check if is functioning... they will just have to see if it still hangs on that part or not. I think t will not confuse the system because it will just auto detect the hardwares of that PC. And when you return it back to its original PC, it will also do the same.

Zero MH · July 23rd, 2002

I think Win 98 will autodetect a new HD as long as it is set up right as a master in the BIOS.

GuardianAli · July 24th, 2002

ok...i'll hold his head..u hol dhis feet...and we pull on 3...if we do it right..his head will pop of like a watermelon.

**Kirby** · July 24th, 2002

OK, some more stuff about his problem:

1. His computer does get out of POST, but it takes 10 minutes just to get to the Win98 boot disk.
2. Even if I do get to DOS by the boot disk, his C: drive is not being recognized.
3. I got out of POST as normal when I disabled Boot Virus Check in BIOS, but 2 resets later, it craps out on me again.

**liquid** · July 24th, 2002

most likely your harddisk has crashed...especially if it's taking 10 mins just to boot up win98....check your harddisk with scandisc or a boot tester from the drive's manufacturer.

July 22nd, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Kirby I want you INSIDE me Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,382	Help me fix my brothers computer before I rip his head off This is ticking me off. He won't stop asking, but I have no clue either. Hopefully, someone can help: It all started a week ago when he got a "stack" error when he started up 98. When he shut down the computer and turned it back on, it actually won't boot to 98, but freeze at the IDE connector check. He got it to work once before, but I have no idea how he did it, but as soon as he restarted, it will freeze at the same place again. Here's my brother's specs: Windows 98 1st edition 400MHZ AMD K6-2 8GB hard drive 64MB ram Permedia 2 video card Sound: ??? Anyone has any ideas? __________________ Kirby's AnimeDB list AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic

July 22nd, 2002	#2 (permalink)
ammoQ Emu author Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vienna/Austria/Europe Posts: 1,168	Check all cables. If this doesn´t help, check all cables again. Check the PCI cards too. __________________ If you think my English is bad, wait till you read my Polish.

July 22nd, 2002	#3 (permalink)
Bgnome Who Da Gnome? Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: At Home Posts: 2,441	sounds like his HD died.. __________________ May the Gnome™ be With You

July 22nd, 2002	#4 (permalink)
Recca Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Where ever fate shall lead me. Posts: 3,946	How could it be his HDD if it started up again once and then the same error __________________ この世に悪があるとすれば、それは人の心だ。エドワ-ド・D・モリスン

July 22nd, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	Try going into the BIOS and manually setting the IDE devices. You can also try resetting or flashing the BIOS. Test his hard drive as well. Take it out and plug it into your computer and see if it works. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

July 22nd, 2002	#6 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	I would also think it's faulty RAM. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

July 22nd, 2002	#7 (permalink)
Kirby I want you INSIDE me Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,382	I should of said earlier that if he does get it up and running, there is a good chance that it will go to BSOD very soon __________________ Kirby's AnimeDB list AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic

July 22nd, 2002	#8 (permalink)
Betamax Resident Movie Critic Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Belfast, Northern Ireland Posts: 9,480	I'd try reseating the memory sticks. They might be a little loose. __________________ Superior marketing of an inferior product will always win over inferior marketing of a superior product.

July 22nd, 2002	#9 (permalink)
Recca Registered User Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Where ever fate shall lead me. Posts: 3,946	My knowlegde with this isn't very good. But you could try reinstalling the OS __________________ この世に悪があるとすれば、それは人の心だ。エドワ-ド・D・モリスン

July 22nd, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,957	You say he gets a Stack error eh? Here's a link to Microsoft, about Stack errors in 98. Maybe it can help you. http://support.microsoft.com/default...EN-US;q145799& __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 4MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5K Deluxe, Intel P35 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

July 22nd, 2002	#11 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	It hangs at POST. So it ain't the OS. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

July 22nd, 2002	#12 (permalink)
Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,957	But it is due to the OS. Probably a stack overflow error. I once had them. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 4MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5K Deluxe, Intel P35 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

July 23rd, 2002	#13 (permalink)
Endimion Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chile Posts: 31	Slimshady can you give us the Make and Model of the HardDrive? It'll help a lot, I had a similar problem with an old Quantum 4 Gb HDD but I need more info about your drive. You can download Quantum Disk Manager (try to download the oldest version... YES! the oldest.. is the only one with the thing you need) from your HDD site and run some tests. __________________ "The Dream is Dead!" (Onslaught, MvsC)

July 23rd, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Quatro c3rTifiEd V@mpIr3 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,295	Try checking the HD in other PC and make it the primary HD. If it still occurs with the same problem... then there is something wrong with the HD. __________________ BE ONE OF US I JOIN THE WOLF CLAN - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

July 23rd, 2002	#15 (permalink)
Endimion Registered User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chile Posts: 31	But that will REALLY CONFUSE Windows98.. unless the other PC has EXACTLY the same hardware config. __________________ "The Dream is Dead!" (Onslaught, MvsC)

July 23rd, 2002	#17 (permalink)
Zero MH Must Watch Family Guy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: On top of a big hill Posts: 182	I think Win 98 will autodetect a new HD as long as it is set up right as a master in the BIOS. __________________ Pentium 4 2.6, 2 Gig Corsair Dual Channel DDR400, Intel 875PBZ, Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro, Soundblaster Audigy2, 200 GB Seagate 8 MB buffer Pelxtor PX-755SA DVD-R/RW, Aluminum-Black Raidmax Scorpio ATX PC Case w/ 420 Watt P4/AMD Dual FanPower Supply, Samsung SyncMaster 957MB Win Vista SP 1

July 23rd, 2002	#16 (permalink)
Quatro c3rTifiEd V@mpIr3 Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Laguna Posts: 8,295	You will just check if is functioning... they will just have to see if it still hangs on that part or not. I think t will not confuse the system because it will just auto detect the hardwares of that PC. And when you return it back to its original PC, it will also do the same. __________________ BE ONE OF US I JOIN THE WOLF CLAN - when you think that you have accomplish so much, many think of it as so little...

July 24th, 2002	#18 (permalink)
GuardianAli Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 120	ok...i'll hold his head..u hol dhis feet...and we pull on 3...if we do it right..his head will pop of like a watermelon. __________________

July 24th, 2002	#19 (permalink)
Kirby I want you INSIDE me Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Massachusetts, USA Posts: 8,382	OK, some more stuff about his problem: 1. His computer does get out of POST, but it takes 10 minutes just to get to the Win98 boot disk. 2. Even if I do get to DOS by the boot disk, his C: drive is not being recognized. 3. I got out of POST as normal when I disabled Boot Virus Check in BIOS, but 2 resets later, it craps out on me again. __________________ Kirby's AnimeDB list AMD Athlon64 X2 4400+ Toledo, Nvidia GeForce 7950GT SLi, 2GB PC3200 2-3-2-5, ABit AN8-SLi, Sound Blaster X-FI XtremeMusic

July 24th, 2002	#20 (permalink)
liquid Ebichu! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Posts: 2,089	most likely your harddisk has crashed...especially if it's taking 10 mins just to boot up win98....check your harddisk with scandisc or a boot tester from the drive's manufacturer. __________________ ...no sig for now

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