P4 motherboards and Sdram

Zero MH · July 21st, 2002

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I am confused as to why companies like Intel are still making P4 motherboards with Sdram. I know it was supposed to help cut the price on ram since at the time PC133 ram was cheaper than RDram. But now both types of ram are almost the same price!

Plus with Sdram, you can't get the full potential of a P4! If anyone has other reasons for this please post them.

Zerthr · July 21st, 2002

you still have ~3 ghz of sdram and dont want to waste them?

money all ways comes in the picture

Zero MH · July 21st, 2002

Well if money is the case why not just get a P3 motherboard? At least a P3 processor can be fully utilized by the Sdram.

grahf · July 21st, 2002

Who told you that SDRAM and RDRAM are almost the same price? Last time I check, RDRAM still cost twice as much as SDRAM for the same amount of memory.

Zero MH · July 21st, 2002

At one time both were the same price. I guess not anymore.

However I still think that if someone had a lot of sdram that they did not want to get rid of and wanted to upgrade to a better processor, they should just get a P3 motherboard since a P4 can not be fully used with Sdram.

**Demigod** · July 22nd, 2002

Intel paired the P4 with SDRAM because it's cheap. RDRAM is very expensive and with the i850 chipset people had no choice to buy it if they wanted a P4. Although SDRAM is a major bottleneck to the P4 i845 systems have been selling like hot cakes due to its low price. OEMs could finally offer P4 systems for the value market, as well as the high-end segment. I personally shudder everytime I see an ad that puts the two together but they do sell for a very low price and to the average consumer they look to be quite a bargain. Intel needs to sell more CPUs and this is the perfect way to do it.

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However I still think that if someone had a lot of sdram that they did not want to get rid of and wanted to upgrade to a better processor, they should just get a P3 motherboard since a P4 can not be fully used with Sdram.

The P3 is dead my friend. The CPU is no longer a profitable product for Intel. It can't scale higher than 1.4 Ghz and even those are extremely rare. The P4 on the otherhand can scale to extremely high speeds and that's what people want. No one's going to go for a 1.2 Ghz P3/Celeron system when they can get a 1.7 Ghz P4 system for the same price.

GuardianAli · July 24th, 2002

cause most ram manufacturers havent completely switched to ddr yet so they are still making sd-ram.

and the main companies like hp and dell that are the REAL customers to the Durami (the ram cartel in taiwain), is the OEMs, not us lowly enthusiasts.

Thus to them it is still cheaper even if the price is close in retail bestbuy stores.

GuardianAli · July 24th, 2002

and rdram ..= evil

**Demigod** · July 24th, 2002

Many people have expressed their discontent with RDRAM. Thankfully there doesn't seem to be a lot of room for RDRAM on Intel's roadmap. Intel's Springdale (?) chipset for the Prescott will feature dual-channel DDR333 support, as opposed to RDRAM. They'll probably make a chipset for RDRAM as well but I think Intel's finally embracing DDR memory.

GuardianAli · July 26th, 2002

the sad part is that RDRAM RULES!! the technology is amazing..its the COMPANY that ruined it for everyone.

July 21st, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Zero MH Must Watch Family Guy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: On top of a big hill Posts: 182	P4 motherboards and Sdram :confused: I am confused as to why companies like Intel are still making P4 motherboards with Sdram. I know it was supposed to help cut the price on ram since at the time PC133 ram was cheaper than RDram. But now both types of ram are almost the same price! Plus with Sdram, you can't get the full potential of a P4! If anyone has other reasons for this please post them. __________________ Pentium 4 2.6, 2 Gig Corsair Dual Channel DDR400, Intel 875PBZ, Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro, Soundblaster Audigy2, 200 GB Seagate 8 MB buffer Pelxtor PX-755SA DVD-R/RW, Aluminum-Black Raidmax Scorpio ATX PC Case w/ 420 Watt P4/AMD Dual FanPower Supply, Samsung SyncMaster 957MB Win Vista SP 1

July 21st, 2002	#3 (permalink)
Zero MH Must Watch Family Guy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: On top of a big hill Posts: 182	Well if money is the case why not just get a P3 motherboard? At least a P3 processor can be fully utilized by the Sdram. __________________ Pentium 4 2.6, 2 Gig Corsair Dual Channel DDR400, Intel 875PBZ, Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro, Soundblaster Audigy2, 200 GB Seagate 8 MB buffer Pelxtor PX-755SA DVD-R/RW, Aluminum-Black Raidmax Scorpio ATX PC Case w/ 420 Watt P4/AMD Dual FanPower Supply, Samsung SyncMaster 957MB Win Vista SP 1

July 21st, 2002	#4 (permalink)
grahf Weltall Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 458	Who told you that SDRAM and RDRAM are almost the same price? Last time I check, RDRAM still cost twice as much as SDRAM for the same amount of memory. __________________ SIS motherboard \| WindowsXP pro \| Athlon XP 2200+(1.8 Ghz) IBM 120gb 7200rpm \| 512Mb DDR PC2100 @133mhz \| C-media 3d sound\| Pixelview geforce4ti4200 64mb\| 12x8x32x CDRW \| 300watt power supply

July 21st, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Zero MH Must Watch Family Guy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: On top of a big hill Posts: 182	At one time both were the same price. I guess not anymore. However I still think that if someone had a lot of sdram that they did not want to get rid of and wanted to upgrade to a better processor, they should just get a P3 motherboard since a P4 can not be fully used with Sdram. __________________ Pentium 4 2.6, 2 Gig Corsair Dual Channel DDR400, Intel 875PBZ, Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro, Soundblaster Audigy2, 200 GB Seagate 8 MB buffer Pelxtor PX-755SA DVD-R/RW, Aluminum-Black Raidmax Scorpio ATX PC Case w/ 420 Watt P4/AMD Dual FanPower Supply, Samsung SyncMaster 957MB Win Vista SP 1

July 24th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
GuardianAli Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 120	cause most ram manufacturers havent completely switched to ddr yet so they are still making sd-ram. and the main companies like hp and dell that are the REAL customers to the Durami (the ram cartel in taiwain), is the OEMs, not us lowly enthusiasts. Thus to them it is still cheaper even if the price is close in retail bestbuy stores. __________________

July 21st, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Zerthr A Wandering Cow Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: {::::> Posts: 415	you still have ~3 ghz of sdram and dont want to waste them? money all ways comes in the picture

July 24th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
GuardianAli Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 120	and rdram ..= evil __________________

July 24th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	Many people have expressed their discontent with RDRAM. Thankfully there doesn't seem to be a lot of room for RDRAM on Intel's roadmap. Intel's Springdale (?) chipset for the Prescott will feature dual-channel DDR333 support, as opposed to RDRAM. They'll probably make a chipset for RDRAM as well but I think Intel's finally embracing DDR memory. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

July 26th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
GuardianAli Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 120	the sad part is that RDRAM RULES!! the technology is amazing..its the COMPANY that ruined it for everyone. __________________

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