ATI's new Radeon line: New King?

**Zephon** · July 18th, 2002

Anandtech has shown a review of ATI's new chips: RV250 and RV300. The RV250 doesn't show anything interesting, since it's beaten by the GF4 MX, but the surprise is the great performance of RV300! It outperforms the GF4 Ti4600, becoming the new high end video card king. Here are the reviews:

RV250: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1655

RV300: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1656

**Demigod** · July 18th, 2002

Wow, it seems ATI's finally made their comeback. I can't believe how fast this card is, even when using rudemantary drivers. I guess ATI's muscle finally shows through.

**DarkAurora** · July 18th, 2002

This looks like a really good card. I wish they showed how some games ran with it.

JAZ · July 18th, 2002

nice, finally a card that interests me.
Cant belive the way its made the g4 look weedy in comparision.

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Here are a few numbers for those of you who can't wait. The 3DMark2001SE score of GeForce4 Ti4600 was 11,400, while Radeon 9700, with its young driver, scored 14,000. Once 4x FSAA and 8x anisotropic filtering was used, the scores changed quite significantly. GeForce4 Ti4600 was able to get a mere 4500 points, while Radeon 9700 scored 10,000 points, thus, more than twice the points of the competitor from NVIDIA

Still it aint released yet but it looks great if the final products as good as the pre release version tested.

Particleman · July 18th, 2002

Can't wait to get my hands on one of these things. 30 days is too long a wait. Damn I really wish I hadn't bought 2 GF4's now.

ebola · July 18th, 2002

just wait till you put those ati drivers on and your screen goes black. hehe.

...btw i have an ati radeon 7500 so i can make fun of it. ;P

Particleman · July 19th, 2002

I had a 8500 for a while, I never had too many problems with it.

Zerthr · July 19th, 2002

lets not make this a NVIDIA vs ATI thread ok?

edit: and yea, but i've heard the radeon 9000 sucks... suppose to just compete with the weak GF4 MX, only 9700 is something to look into

**Demigod** · July 19th, 2002

But the Radeon 9000 is DirectX 9 compliant, which is more than you can say for the GeForce 4 MX series. They're selling for around $100 so they'd be the best choice for value consumers.

RZetlin · July 19th, 2002

Give it time, Nvidia will create a video card that will beat out the ATI Radeon video cards.

Personally I am still satisfy with my Geforce 2 MX video card.

Particleman · July 19th, 2002

Actually the 9000 is only DX 8.1 compliant which I guess is still more than what can be said for the GF4MX (only DX7). Its purpose is to replace the 8500. Only the 9700 and later the slower clocked 9500 will be DX9.

Zerthr · July 19th, 2002

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Originally posted by RZetlin
Give it time, Nvidia will create a video card that will beat out the ATI Radeon video cards.

Personally I am still satisfy with my Geforce 2 MX video card.

how much time? 1 year? 6 months is probably more correct... the thing is... nvidia is truly a underdog for once in a looong time.

this is what it seems from my point of view... nvidia was working on the xbox's hardware and now they are backed down a bit...

let me tell you something... I know for sure the NV30 will beat the **** out of the 9700 (well maybe not that much but will be beat for sure). As nvidia would never release a product slower than ATI's.

but seriously how long would it take? R350 anyone?

edit: im glad you're satisfied with your card... nowadays... people are very very power hungry..(me) but it's amazing to see these new cards in flying colors :eyes:

BaD_BURN · July 19th, 2002

I've never really owned or tried an ATi card before. Seriously thinking about buying a Radeon and keep my GF4 in storage.

How good is an ATi card, anyway?

Iran · July 19th, 2002

nvidia geforce 5, a rumor,
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4442

gainward already removed it from its ftp server but the Inquirer link is working

Zerthr · July 19th, 2002

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Originally posted by Iran
nvidia geforce 5, a rumor,
http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4442

gainward already removed it from its ftp server

why would they put it on their server anyways? and why would they want to hide it anyhow?

if nvidia has a chance, they would show off their geforce 5 as much as possible for marketing reasons (ati,parhelia, old geforces)... if they wanted to keep it secret... it's not hard.

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Originally posted by BaD_BURN
I've never really owned or tried an ATi card before. Seriously thinking about buying a Radeon and keep my GF4 in storage.

How good is an ATi card, anyway?

if you have a gf4 ti already i reccommend u just keep it.. look in your wallet, and see if there's an id of bill gates.., if not... just stick with the gf4. like i said before.. dont be craving for new video cards too much.. bad bad.. just go buy some food.. good good

and how good is the card? we dont know yet.. wait another 30 days, maybe a little bit more.. be content

BaD_BURN · July 19th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Zerthr
if you have a gf4 ti already i reccommend u just keep it.. look in your wallet, and see if there's an id of bill gates.., if not... just stick with the gf4. like i said before.. dont be craving for new video cards too much.. bad bad.. just go buy some food.. good good

Yeah, me do that!

BaD_BURN · July 19th, 2002

Hey, what about the Xabre series from SiS?

Zero MH · July 19th, 2002

I've been considering buying a GF4, but I don't know if I should wait for the Radeon 9700. The only thing I don't like about Radeon so far is their driver support. not too good. :sad:

Sis cards are kind of crappy anyway aren't they?

BaD_BURN · July 19th, 2002

Someone tell me it ain't so. A SiS card actually outperformed a GF4 MX440?!?!?!?!?!

Zero MH · July 19th, 2002

Well you have one of the best Sis cards competing against one of Nvidia"s fourth or fifth best cards. I wonder who is going to win....

July 18th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Zephon Key To The Universe Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 2,706	ATI's new Radeon line: New King? Anandtech has shown a review of ATI's new chips: RV250 and RV300. The RV250 doesn't show anything interesting, since it's beaten by the GF4 MX, but the surprise is the great performance of RV300! It outperforms the GF4 Ti4600, becoming the new high end video card king. Here are the reviews: RV250: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1655 RV300: http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1656 __________________ But there is someone who remembers you Someone waiting for a sign that leads the way to you There is someone who will die for you Keep that in mind when the hope fails

July 18th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	Wow, it seems ATI's finally made their comeback. I can't believe how fast this card is, even when using rudemantary drivers. I guess ATI's muscle finally shows through. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

July 18th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
ebola Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chanhassen, MN Posts: 900	just wait till you put those ati drivers on and your screen goes black. hehe. ...btw i have an ati radeon 7500 so i can make fun of it. ;P __________________ .: Cythraul Design :: MBA-Forums :.

July 19th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	But the Radeon 9000 is DirectX 9 compliant, which is more than you can say for the GeForce 4 MX series. They're selling for around $100 so they'd be the best choice for value consumers. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

July 19th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
RZetlin General of Tangerines Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Defending the Sea Posts: 3,881	Give it time, Nvidia will create a video card that will beat out the ATI Radeon video cards. Personally I am still satisfy with my Geforce 2 MX video card. __________________ AMD Athlon 64 3700+ \| 2 GB RAM \| XFX Nvidia 6800 GS 256 MB XXX Edition \| Win XP Pro SP2

July 18th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
DarkAurora Back from the dead Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Seymour, TN Posts: 3,735	This looks like a really good card. I wish they showed how some games ran with it.

July 18th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Particleman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 462	Can't wait to get my hands on one of these things. 30 days is too long a wait. Damn I really wish I hadn't bought 2 GF4's now.

July 19th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
Particleman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 462	I had a 8500 for a while, I never had too many problems with it.

July 19th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
Zerthr A Wandering Cow Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: {::::> Posts: 415	lets not make this a NVIDIA vs ATI thread ok? edit: and yea, but i've heard the radeon 9000 sucks... suppose to just compete with the weak GF4 MX, only 9700 is something to look into

July 19th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
Particleman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 462	Actually the 9000 is only DX 8.1 compliant which I guess is still more than what can be said for the GF4MX (only DX7). Its purpose is to replace the 8500. Only the 9700 and later the slower clocked 9500 will be DX9.

July 19th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
BaD_BURN In limbo Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Cave dweller Posts: 914	I've never really owned or tried an ATi card before. Seriously thinking about buying a Radeon and keep my GF4 in storage. How good is an ATi card, anyway?

July 19th, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Iran Iran Pogi Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Stanmore Posts: 632	nvidia geforce 5, a rumor, http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=4442 gainward already removed it from its ftp server but the Inquirer link is working Last edited by Iran; July 20th, 2002 at 01:06.

July 19th, 2002	#17 (permalink)
BaD_BURN In limbo Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Cave dweller Posts: 914	Hey, what about the Xabre series from SiS?

July 19th, 2002	#18 (permalink)
Zero MH Must Watch Family Guy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: On top of a big hill Posts: 182	I've been considering buying a GF4, but I don't know if I should wait for the Radeon 9700. The only thing I don't like about Radeon so far is their driver support. not too good. :sad: Sis cards are kind of crappy anyway aren't they? __________________ Pentium 4 2.6, 2 Gig Corsair Dual Channel DDR400, Intel 875PBZ, Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro, Soundblaster Audigy2, 200 GB Seagate 8 MB buffer Pelxtor PX-755SA DVD-R/RW, Aluminum-Black Raidmax Scorpio ATX PC Case w/ 420 Watt P4/AMD Dual FanPower Supply, Samsung SyncMaster 957MB Win Vista SP 1

July 19th, 2002	#20 (permalink)
Zero MH Must Watch Family Guy Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: On top of a big hill Posts: 182	Well you have one of the best Sis cards competing against one of Nvidia"s fourth or fifth best cards. I wonder who is going to win.... __________________ Pentium 4 2.6, 2 Gig Corsair Dual Channel DDR400, Intel 875PBZ, Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro, Soundblaster Audigy2, 200 GB Seagate 8 MB buffer Pelxtor PX-755SA DVD-R/RW, Aluminum-Black Raidmax Scorpio ATX PC Case w/ 420 Watt P4/AMD Dual FanPower Supply, Samsung SyncMaster 957MB Win Vista SP 1

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