HDD prob...

REi_FoX · July 15th, 2002

hey guys i got a problem please help me out...

i just bought a seagate ata 100 barracuda and i put in my computer of cousre...

then i have an old 20 gb seagate also ata 100...

but the thing is when i put the same drive on function the cpu says on DOS(while booting)

"secondary IDE has no 80 conductor isntalled"

and my PC recognizes it as ata 33

help out guys thanks!!!

REi_FoX · July 15th, 2002

help me out guys.. please...

REi_FoX · July 15th, 2002

well i think i know the prob...

BDA7DD · July 15th, 2002

You need an 80-pin IDE cable. They have two or three connectors (for single and dual-device models, respectively,) and are easily identifiable by the colours of the connectors. There's always a blue connector which goes to the motherboard and a black one which goes to the master device. There's also a white connector on dual-device cables which goes to the slave device.

Just set the jumpers on your IDE devices (such as hard drives and CD/DVD drives) to "Cable Select", use some 80-pin IDE cables and set up the master/slave roles by simply connecting the black connector to the master, the white to the slave, and the blue to the motherboard. This way you can change from master to slave by just rearranging the cables without having to go flipping jumpers around.

REi_FoX · July 15th, 2002

thanks BDA7DD hope to see you here more often...

**Zephon** · July 15th, 2002

BDA7DD, the cable needed is 40-pin, not 80-pin as you said. The connector should look just like the other one (since both have the same amout of pins), but it actually has 80 wires, instead of 40 wires as the ATA33 used to have. The extra 40 strands in a ATA66/100 cable act as insulators between the 40 signalling strands to prevent/reduce crosstalk. This way you can reach higher transfer speeds.

REi_FoX · July 15th, 2002

thanks again guys...

so ill just have to buy a 40-pin cable and thats it right?

**Zephon** · July 15th, 2002

Yes. If your chipset support ATA100 transfers, you only need a 40-pin / 80 wires cable.

BDA7DD · July 15th, 2002

Yeah, 80 wires, that's what I meant. I get the two confused quite often. It's also known as an ATA-100 compatible IDE cable. I don't think there is such a thing as an IDE cable with 80 pins come to think of it. Just make sure it's got the coloured connectors, that's the simplest way to tell the difference from the older 40 wire cables. There are other visible differences, but the colours of the connectors is the most noticable.

REi_FoX · July 16th, 2002

yeah thanks i just bought the wrong one...

i bought a 40 pin cable then it has all black connectors....

still i get a ata 33...

REi_FoX · July 16th, 2002

and one thing more how much does that ata 100 ide cable cost?

BDA7DD · July 16th, 2002

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Originally posted by rei_fox
how much does that ata 100 ide cable cost?

Less than $5.00 (CAD) each. They're cheap. Remember that those 80-wire cables will work for any IDE UDMA device, whether it be ATA-33, ATA-66, ATA-100 or the new ATA-133.

July 15th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,648	HDD prob... hey guys i got a problem please help me out... i just bought a seagate ata 100 barracuda and i put in my computer of cousre... then i have an old 20 gb seagate also ata 100... but the thing is when i put the same drive on function the cpu says on DOS(while booting) "secondary IDE has no 80 conductor isntalled" and my PC recognizes it as ata 33 help out guys thanks!!! __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

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July 15th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
Zephon Key To The Universe Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 2,706	BDA7DD, the cable needed is 40-pin, not 80-pin as you said. The connector should look just like the other one (since both have the same amout of pins), but it actually has 80 wires, instead of 40 wires as the ATA33 used to have. The extra 40 strands in a ATA66/100 cable act as insulators between the 40 signalling strands to prevent/reduce crosstalk. This way you can reach higher transfer speeds. __________________ But there is someone who remembers you Someone waiting for a sign that leads the way to you There is someone who will die for you Keep that in mind when the hope fails

July 15th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
BDA7DD THAT PANDA FELL ON YOU! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 65	You need an 80-pin IDE cable. They have two or three connectors (for single and dual-device models, respectively,) and are easily identifiable by the colours of the connectors. There's always a blue connector which goes to the motherboard and a black one which goes to the master device. There's also a white connector on dual-device cables which goes to the slave device. Just set the jumpers on your IDE devices (such as hard drives and CD/DVD drives) to "Cable Select", use some 80-pin IDE cables and set up the master/slave roles by simply connecting the black connector to the master, the white to the slave, and the blue to the motherboard. This way you can change from master to slave by just rearranging the cables without having to go flipping jumpers around.

July 15th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,648	thanks again guys... so ill just have to buy a 40-pin cable and thats it right? __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

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Zephon Key To The Universe Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 2,706	Yes. If your chipset support ATA100 transfers, you only need a 40-pin / 80 wires cable. __________________ But there is someone who remembers you Someone waiting for a sign that leads the way to you There is someone who will die for you Keep that in mind when the hope fails

July 15th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
BDA7DD THAT PANDA FELL ON YOU! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 65	Yeah, 80 wires, that's what I meant. I get the two confused quite often. It's also known as an ATA-100 compatible IDE cable. I don't think there is such a thing as an IDE cable with 80 pins come to think of it. Just make sure it's got the coloured connectors, that's the simplest way to tell the difference from the older 40 wire cables. There are other visible differences, but the colours of the connectors is the most noticable.

July 16th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,648	yeah thanks i just bought the wrong one... i bought a 40 pin cable then it has all black connectors.... still i get a ata 33... __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

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REi_FoX ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Fantasy ¡¾¡¾¡¾¡ Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 3,648	and one thing more how much does that ata 100 ide cable cost? __________________ FoR PiNoYs WhO WanTs To BuY CheAp ParTs CliCk Here also Here Processor - Intel Quad 2 Quad q6600 G0 Stepping [Stock Settings] Memory - 2GB Team Elite 800mhz Graphics Card - Palit Daytone Geforce 8800 GT 512 MB Mobo - Abit IP-35-E OS - Dual Boot Windows XP Professional SP3 and Ubuntu Linux Pad - PS1 and PS2 > USB Adapter 3DMark05 Score - 35082

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