How can you find out if your mother board supports 8XAGP?

SkyeHack · July 7th, 2002

is there a program r something that can tell me? thanks!

JAZ · July 7th, 2002

afaik u cant even buy boards with an 8x agp port yet.

SkyeHack · July 7th, 2002

then how can you tell if your board is 4X AGP or 2X AGP???

Ultragunner · July 7th, 2002

it is on written on your mobo manual.

if for some reason you lost the manual. here is an interesting proggie called pcilist.

SkyeHack · July 7th, 2002

i got this message. what does this mean???

Ultragunner · July 7th, 2002

im sorry the program doesn't work for you. it think it only works on win9x

**cooliscool** · July 7th, 2002

got to it just before me ultra

anyway here's a shot

**cooliscool** · July 7th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Tekky Tag
then how can you tell if your board is 4X AGP or 2X AGP???

if u use a geforce on a new pc it's most likely at 4x, nothing to worry about though

**Zephon** · July 7th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Tekky Tag
then how can you tell if your board is 4X AGP or 2X AGP???

You can check your mobo's manual, or check the manufacturer's site for some info, or use a diagnostic tool (e.g. Sandra). Most diagnostics tools show you that (unless the tool is very specific, like WCPUID, that only shows the CPU info).

Anyway, you don't have to worry about it, the AGP standards are fully backwards and forwards compatible: AGP 1.0 cards (1X and 2X capable) have no problems with AGP 2.0 motherboards (1X, 2X, 4X capable) and vice versa.

Alias · July 7th, 2002

actually the via p4x333 and the upcoming SiS648 both support agp 4x (which i think the next ati, nvidia and 3dlabs chips are gonna be). I think also the ati IGP supports agp 8x. Intel does not have any current plans to support agp 8x just like they're shunning ata133

K.I.L.E.R · July 8th, 2002

I have a feeling that it will take a while before AGP 8x becomes mainstream.

**fivefeet8** · July 8th, 2002

4x is enough for games at the moment.. Maybe when newer games starts using more polygons will we start to need higher agp speeds.. 16x agp?

K.I.L.E.R · July 8th, 2002

We need far less latency on the agp port so that system memory used for storing textures and whatnot would actually be good. I have far too much memory not being used.

Particleman · July 8th, 2002

It should become mainstream in highend videocards and motherboards by the end of the year. The ATi R300 supports AGP 8X, and Nvidia's NV30 likely will too. The Nforce 2 to be released in mid July is also going to have AGP 8x so it would shock me if the NV30 didn't. The SiS Xabre already out also supports AGP 8x. Pretty much every new motherboard chipset from here on out should support it since it's just another feature and features sell whether they have any actually performance impact at all. AGP 2x vs 4x didn't make much of a difference but computer makers out there are always looking for more features to tout.

BTW Intel is supporting AGP 8x, their upcoming dual channel DDR P4 board does have AGP 8x.
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzIz
HardOCP has a preview of the upcoming board.

Sniper · July 8th, 2002

I don't see a point of getting AGP8x anymore since
PCI eXPress is coming out soon I think, and it's faster AGP 8x
I think, and you can use pci express slot for all your hardware, like graphic card and sound.....etc

K.I.L.E.R · July 8th, 2002

Links?
:eek:
http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/pci_x_20

Anyway AGP 8x is around 4gig/sec just like that thing. Take a look at whitepapers

**Demigod** · July 8th, 2002

4 GB/s bandwidth? I would think it would be more around 2.12 GB/s.

66 Mhz (AGP bus speed) x 4 (32 bit) x 8 = 2112 MB/s

Newer chipsets like the upcoming VIA KT333A chipset will support AGP 8x. It's completely unnecessary (just like AGP 4x was) but it makes the product more impressive and will sell more boards.

Alias · July 9th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Alias
actually the via p4x333 and the upcoming SiS648 both support agp 4x

whoops, i meant they support agp 8x

*oh wow there's an edit function... hahaha sorry....

K.I.L.E.R · July 12th, 2002

Doh! That's useless. 2gig/sec bleh! I thought they would at least do something usefull for once. We need a lot more than 2gig/sec.

Hanamichi · July 12th, 2002

I admit that I dont really have a clue about what you guys are talking about (that bit thing, whatever.) , but I got these results anyway. Does that mean that my motherboard supports 4xAGP ? I cant check it though, I click on it and nothing happens...:confused:

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Ultragunner S.E.E.D. Mode Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: 127.0.0.1 Posts: 997	im sorry the program doesn't work for you. it think it only works on win9x __________________ PC Specs:

July 7th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Alias >_< Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: East Coast, USA Posts: 924	actually the via p4x333 and the upcoming SiS648 both support agp 4x (which i think the next ati, nvidia and 3dlabs chips are gonna be). I think also the ati IGP supports agp 8x. Intel does not have any current plans to support agp 8x just like they're shunning ata133 __________________ >_<

July 8th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	I have a feeling that it will take a while before AGP 8x becomes mainstream. __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon.

July 7th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
JAZ Nintendo Zealot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,424	afaik u cant even buy boards with an 8x agp port yet.

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fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 7,582	4x is enough for games at the moment.. Maybe when newer games starts using more polygons will we start to need higher agp speeds.. 16x agp? __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel Q6600@3.2 ghertz\|4x1gb DDR2 1066\|Asrock 1600sli 110db LGA 775\|EVGA 8800gtx@620/1450/975\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\|Seagate 7000.10 500gb HD\|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Antec TP 650 watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|20.1" 5ms LCD 1680x1050 Native\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/15" Sub\|Dual Boot Winows XP Pro/Vista 64bit\|\| 2nd Rig\|\|Athlon64 x2 3800+\|2x1 gig PC3200\|BFG Geforce 6800 Ultra OC @450/1250 agp\|60 gig Maxtor IDE HD 7200 RPM\|40 gig Maxtor IDE HD\|Asrock Dual SATA2\|Silver Aluminum ATX\|17" LCD\|\| 3rd Rig\|\|Athlon Xp 2800+\|1.5 gig PC2700\|BFG GeforceFx 5900 Ultra OC agp\|100 gig Maxtor SATA HD\|NF7-s rev2.0\|Nvidia Soundstorm MCP\|19" CRT\|\|

July 8th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	We need far less latency on the agp port so that system memory used for storing textures and whatnot would actually be good. I have far too much memory not being used. __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon.

July 8th, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Particleman Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 462	It should become mainstream in highend videocards and motherboards by the end of the year. The ATi R300 supports AGP 8X, and Nvidia's NV30 likely will too. The Nforce 2 to be released in mid July is also going to have AGP 8x so it would shock me if the NV30 didn't. The SiS Xabre already out also supports AGP 8x. Pretty much every new motherboard chipset from here on out should support it since it's just another feature and features sell whether they have any actually performance impact at all. AGP 2x vs 4x didn't make much of a difference but computer makers out there are always looking for more features to tout. BTW Intel is supporting AGP 8x, their upcoming dual channel DDR P4 board does have AGP 8x. http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=MzIz HardOCP has a preview of the upcoming board. Last edited by Particleman; July 8th, 2002 at 07:33.

July 8th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
Sniper Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 460	I don't see a point of getting AGP8x anymore since PCI eXPress is coming out soon I think, and it's faster AGP 8x I think, and you can use pci express slot for all your hardware, like graphic card and sound.....etc

July 8th, 2002	#16 (permalink)
K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	Links? :eek: http://www.pcisig.com/specifications/pci_x_20 Anyway AGP 8x is around 4gig/sec just like that thing. Take a look at whitepapers __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon. Last edited by K.I.L.E.R; July 8th, 2002 at 08:39.

July 8th, 2002	#17 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	4 GB/s bandwidth? I would think it would be more around 2.12 GB/s. 66 Mhz (AGP bus speed) x 4 (32 bit) x 8 = 2112 MB/s Newer chipsets like the upcoming VIA KT333A chipset will support AGP 8x. It's completely unnecessary (just like AGP 4x was) but it makes the product more impressive and will sell more boards. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

July 12th, 2002	#19 (permalink)
K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	Doh! That's useless. 2gig/sec bleh! I thought they would at least do something usefull for once. We need a lot more than 2gig/sec. __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon.

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