Which would be better

SanDRocK · June 13th, 2001

k my brother wants to upgrade his computer and he's not sure what to get first a new CPU or more Ram
which do u guys think would make a bigger difference?

PIII 733MHz
or
256MB CL2 PC133 SDRam

his current CPU is a Celeron 533MHz and his Ram is 128MB SDRam(if he ups to a P3 he'll only be able to use 64megs of ram cause the other 64meg chip is only pc100) He'd get a faster CPU but his Mobo only supports upto 733

which do u guys think would make a bigger preformace increase

Enigma1982 · June 13th, 2001

Well..................
If I am your brother I will change CPU and mobo together..........
to AMD Duron and he still can use both ram even PC100...........
Upgrade ram is not best way to choose............
I upgrade ram from 128 to 256 mb but seem no diferrence in usual program...........and it help me a bit in games

SanDRocK · June 13th, 2001

1 or the other, he can get either 1 of those the p3 or the 256MB chip for free so......

cluthu · June 13th, 2001

>1 of those the p3 or the 256MB chip for free so
If that's the case I think he should go with the P3, since they cost a good deal more than a stick of RAM does right now.

SanDRocK · June 13th, 2001

ya he works at this computer store in my neiborhood and he gets a free piece of comp eq a year so.....as long as its no more than 200$ the p3 was like 209 so i guess he'd pay like 9 bucks but still......

Enigma1982 · June 13th, 2001

If in this case I choose pentium3 too.....................
Anyway some ram PC100 can run FPS 133 try that ram first........

Dan · June 13th, 2001

If only he had an ABIT mother board, most of them will let you select the memory bus speed diffrent from the board speed.. When i first got my PIII EB, i had to set the memory bus speed at 100mhz untill i had enugh to get a pc133 256 stick of the good stuff...

SanDRocK · June 13th, 2001

the board my brother currently has is a gigabyte 6VA7+ Apollo Pro board with a VIA chipset, it has 2 dip switches 1 for the CPU speed and the other for the FSB speed

mr2000jp · June 14th, 2001

there is some thing you should check out at your brothers computer.
the motherboard: does it support the 133 fsb speed?
if it does then go on and get a 733 (the lowest cpu speed that works at
133 fsb)
if it doesnt then go on and get a 700 mhz only cuz it runz at 100 fsb to match your motherboard,
and about the ram you can set the speed at 100mhz only, for either cpu's 733 or the
700 so you can use the whole 128MB's of ram which is a lot better than having
only 64 MB ram at 133mhz.
i think this will give him a good boost at emulation speed,
the 256MB of ram is not needed by him unless he needs to run multi programs at the same time
and i mean lots of them , or if he was a graphics desighner.
good luck...

SanDRocK · June 14th, 2001

ya it can do 133MHz FSB but the highest CPU speed that it can handle is 733MHz (according to the mobo's manual)
how can i adjust the ram speed? just change to 100 FSB?

June 13th, 2001	#1 (permalink)
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	Which would be better k my brother wants to upgrade his computer and he's not sure what to get first a new CPU or more Ram which do u guys think would make a bigger difference? PIII 733MHz or 256MB CL2 PC133 SDRam his current CPU is a Celeron 533MHz and his Ram is 128MB SDRam(if he ups to a P3 he'll only be able to use 64megs of ram cause the other 64meg chip is only pc100) He'd get a faster CPU but his Mobo only supports upto 733 which do u guys think would make a bigger preformace increase __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

June 13th, 2001	#3 (permalink)
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	1 or the other, he can get either 1 of those the p3 or the 256MB chip for free so...... __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

June 13th, 2001	#4 (permalink)
cluthu Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 513	>1 of those the p3 or the 256MB chip for free so If that's the case I think he should go with the P3, since they cost a good deal more than a stick of RAM does right now. __________________ "...everything else is just theory."

June 13th, 2001	#5 (permalink)
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	ya he works at this computer store in my neiborhood and he gets a free piece of comp eq a year so.....as long as its no more than 200$ the p3 was like 209 so i guess he'd pay like 9 bucks but still...... __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

June 13th, 2001	#8 (permalink)
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	the board my brother currently has is a gigabyte 6VA7+ Apollo Pro board with a VIA chipset, it has 2 dip switches 1 for the CPU speed and the other for the FSB speed __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

June 13th, 2001	#2 (permalink)
Enigma1982 Do not Disturb Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bangkok,Thailand Posts: 1,808	Well.................. If I am your brother I will change CPU and mobo together.......... to AMD Duron and he still can use both ram even PC100........... Upgrade ram is not best way to choose............ I upgrade ram from 128 to 256 mb but seem no diferrence in usual program...........and it help me a bit in games

June 13th, 2001	#6 (permalink)
Enigma1982 Do not Disturb Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Bangkok,Thailand Posts: 1,808	If in this case I choose pentium3 too..................... Anyway some ram PC100 can run FPS 133 try that ram first........

June 13th, 2001	#7 (permalink)
Dan Jedi Knight Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 230	If only he had an ABIT mother board, most of them will let you select the memory bus speed diffrent from the board speed.. When i first got my PIII EB, i had to set the memory bus speed at 100mhz untill i had enugh to get a pc133 256 stick of the good stuff...

June 14th, 2001	#9 (permalink)
mr2000jp Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: jordan Posts: 171	there is some thing you should check out at your brothers computer. the motherboard: does it support the 133 fsb speed? if it does then go on and get a 733 (the lowest cpu speed that works at 133 fsb) if it doesnt then go on and get a 700 mhz only cuz it runz at 100 fsb to match your motherboard, and about the ram you can set the speed at 100mhz only, for either cpu's 733 or the 700 so you can use the whole 128MB's of ram which is a lot better than having only 64 MB ram at 133mhz. i think this will give him a good boost at emulation speed, the 256MB of ram is not needed by him unless he needs to run multi programs at the same time and i mean lots of them , or if he was a graphics desighner. good luck... __________________ every one on this world deserves happines. but not when it will be taken from others.

June 14th, 2001	#10 (permalink)
SanDRocK StizowneD Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta Posts: 298	ya it can do 133MHz FSB but the highest CPU speed that it can handle is 733MHz (according to the mobo's manual) how can i adjust the ram speed? just change to 100 FSB? __________________ Gaming Rig OS= Vista Ultimate 64Bit CPU = Pent D extreme 3.4GHz w/ HT Mobo = Dell mobo based on intel 955X chipset Ram = 2Gigs 667MHz DDR2 SDRam HDD = 320Gig Raid0 Array (2x 160Gig SATA2 (16meg cache each) 10000RPM GFX = ATI Radeon X850 XT Platinum (512Meg DDR3 model) 21" Dell Widescreen LCD Audio = SBlaster X-Fi Fatal1ty on 5.1 Digi suroundsound Faster than a Burning Bud, More Powerfull than a hit from a bong, Able to eat huge amounts of snacks, Look through the smoke.. Its a skunk...... Its a grassfire...... Its.... Its.... GanjaMAN!!! Man of WEED (TM)

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