Will "Gilde" API come with next Nvidia card???

[cairey]

In that case, probably in less than a year, only a very few people will be using his plugin.

Precisely.

[Enigma1982]

One question ???
Will I able use Georce3AGP + Voodoo 5 5500 PCI in same PC ???

[Phuzzi]

'Well, phuzzi.... How many times imbread are you??'

It's spelt 'inbred'. And i'm not.
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'Ok, nice start off... good comment... '

Why thankyou.
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'Well, actually, glide does support 32-bit color... Unfortunately, all of the voodoo 3 cards and below do not... Everything from the 4000 on up does....'

I'm aware it can be forced, however that could be viewed as a 'hack' to get 32bit. It doesn't support 'true' 32bit colour.
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'Some people like ultraHLE and the low system requirement... '

Yes, but he has a fast graphics card and system. He should try Project64 is what i meant. If you really must use UHLE for some arcane reason, then v2's can be picked up very cheap.
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'So now you speak for everyone? The GTS would strike fear in most games... If you believe that a game's soul mission in life (?) is to over power you computer and bring the FPS to their knees...'

Eh. It's amusing that you can drag such a statement from me that I never said. Nevertheless, I merely implied that his card is not much to brag about these days.
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'Humm... part of this board is about expressing your opinion... much like you have been doing?? LeadTek makes the best Geforce, Geforce2, and Geforce3 cards around. MX, GTS, PRO, you name it... does that make you feel better?? '

Yet you seem to take offense to me expressing my opinion. I thought it was obvious that I was taking the piss out of him for being misleading about his card. It just makes him look silly. The MX is a good budget card, and of course I understand well that not everyone can afford a GeForce3.
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'Actually, i do... Don’t assume any thing... it makes an ass out of you... yep... you.'

You see that just by having the glide files on your computer that non Glide compliant hardware can run Glide games? Sounds pretty messed to me. As for the ass comment, well, how mature.
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'OH MY GOD! SOMEONE DOES NOT SPEAK VERY GOOD ENGLISH!! Lets point out some of your flaws... but that would be too easy...'

Ok, go for it. I can't see that you've pointed out any yet. It's not like i made a big thing about his spelling, but wouldn't the world be a better place if everyone was just a bit more legible?
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'You’re so judgmental... So are you white? Baled headed? Run around in Halloween ghost costume on weekends lynching people who are different than you or have a different opinion? Take some college courses or something... Your arrogance astounds me..'

Yes, i'm white. No, i'm not bald. Your train of thought is frankly disturbing, gonna call me a Nazi next? I agree my post was arrogant, that's what gives it its quant charm to some. I finish college in 2 weeks btw, then i'm off to go do a degree in computer science.
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'Is your full stop key jammed down or something? That many dots does not enhance your point at all.
--- Neither do your comments... '

That doesn't really make sense. Adding a load of full stops to the end of your messages makes you appear to be 'lame'. I'm advising him of that.
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'Those games are cack anyway.
--- Humm... So who died and made you judge and jury of video games?'

Yeah, that's just a plain arrogant comment from me. To be taken with a pinch of salt.
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'Well, not exactly stripped down. Yes some features barrowed, but basically a different api with different features and different ways of processing them...'

So by what you're saying, totally different. They're both similair actually, immediate mode renderers, etc. Provide information that Glide is not stripped down then.
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'Really? Your insight astonishes me.. '

So you think the API will be resurrected for common games being developed? It's almost like you just want to disagree with everything, screw common sense eh.
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'nVidia said 3dfx personnel would be working on the NV30. Speculation says that means it will incorporate some 3dfx technology.
--- In your opinion...'

No, judging by what i've read from sources that are reliable. That speculation I mentioned was readily apparant at news sites when that particular NV30 information was released.
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'Yup.'

No sarcasm? You're agreeing? Woot.
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'Hummm... i know that they were still installed on my system... You can smoke whatever you want.. All i have are some good old luckys. And you can’t have any... your most likely not old enough to have one anyways...'

Oh yes, you certainly are a manly man with your Luckys. I wish I had the sense to spend money constantly damaging my health. FYI, I've been old enough to smoke for quite a while now.
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'Butta bing!! Look whose talking? Hypocrite right to the bone... imo.'

Please tell me what was hypocritical about that statement, for I am at a loss.
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'No, i believe they are more worried about ATi. Considering that they're attacking ATi on the mobile front as well now. It was obvious at the v5 launch that even the GF2GTS could outperform the v5.

--- bla bla bal... you have already established your self as self-righteous.. bla bla...'

Umm, whatever. How analysing nVidias current worries makes me self righteous I'm not sure about. I'm sure you have it all figured out up there though, care to share?
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'Do you know how many times OGL has tried to be thwarted by companies?? Many times... D3D still has it problems as a newer api (compared to OGL), and maybe years down the line it can reach the quality and speed that you can achieve with OGL... D3D largest problem right now is the inefficiency.'

Oh, tut tut. You read me as saying that D3D is better than OGL, although i did not say that now did I? Given that MS and nVidia have worked closely on developing DX8, they do want developers to use DX8 (and hence D3D) to utilise the functions of their new GF3 chipset. Now, both you and I know that actually OGL may be more suited to utilising the programmable nature of that chip, that doesn't mean nVidia prefer it. Please take more care to read what someone says before mouthing off a hot headed reply.
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'Oppression from the "man". You don’t seem any more intelligent... Maybe less because he didn’t have to use any 4 letter words...'

**** **** ****ity **** ****. It's just a word. My useage of it hardly betrayed any lack of intelligence on my part.
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'No, it’s like trying to use windows... All the features are there, you just slowly learn how to use more and more of them, and then combinations, and so forth..'

So yes, as I said, he was talking from the point of a developer.
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'Again, your amazing debate skills shine through like lead nuggets.

--- As do yours..'

A reply that says little. Do you comment for the sake of commenting? If my debate skills also shine like lead nuggets, please show me where. I'm always open to improving myself.
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'You can easily setup Glide to own an OpenGL rendered scene in the same game, and vice versa.

--- Well, lets just pretend that your not brain dead and ignore what you said. Of course you can make anything look like anything else... you can make a calculus text book look like Janet Reno in a bikini with a little imagination and some plaster...'

This is quite an acheivement. You manage to agree with me, and yet slag me off. Kinda like someone shooting themself in the foot. Congratulations, you've swelled my bloated ego further!

[takwu]

ppl please stop putting unconstructive text in between the constructive ones. others are trying to read.
especially try not to comment on anything about any persons.
we'll have to report to the mods if this keeps up.
another thing to keep in mind is to stop repeating yourselves in subsequent posts.

enigma asked my question too. I'd like to keep two cards, one for glide, when the gaming world has advanced so much that a voodoo5 will not be enough. I doubt it'll be soon tho.

now for some constructive comments:
- nvidia bought 3dfx. they didnt need to if 3dfx was not a threat. I know I know 3dfx was dying, but it'll still be a threat to nvidia if someone else bought it instead.
- Glide was introduced as a way to introduce 3d acceleration to gaming.
OpenGL was the way to 3d accelerated application.
and D3D was the way to wide compatibility among very different h/w in 3d accelerated gaming.
You see they all came from different places. Each has their unique advantages and disadvantages. Each has evolved, but none has done so much that it'd completely overshadow another.
- Glide died because of it's incompatibility with other cards. Less intensive games started to use D3D for compatibility, then many people did not need to get a voodoo card, any D3D card would do. Nvidia launched the first TNT, which supported OpenGL and of course D3D. TNT on OGL rivaled Voodoo2 on Glide. Much higher end (and higher priced) 3D cards also supported OGL. So some games started supporting OGL instead of Glide. 3Dfx started adding some support for OGL as well so their cards so they are more compatible (Quake 2 needed such). But some games still supported all 3 API because Glide was still much better than D3D for old voodoo card owners. When 3dfx started to have more OGL support on newer cards and the user base of older voodoo cards were shrinking, games no longer need Glide.
You might think yeah yeah I already knew all that. But look carefully, Glide did not die because of it's performance. Rather it was its compatibility.

[Satan]

Originally posted by Phuzzi
Ok, go for it. I can't see that you've pointed out any yet. It's not like i made a big thing about his spelling, but wouldn't the world be a better place if everyone was just a bit more legible?

Yes, and this board would be much better if everyone* was a bit smarter. But we can't ban people for idiocy, so we'll just have to deal with it.
You know, there are many ESL** users here, and it's considered very lame to pick on their grammatical errors. Their "engrish" (sic) may not be as good as yours, but I'm sure your french or german or [insert a foreign language here] is not as good as theirs.

*you
**English as a Second Language

Originally posted by Phuzzi
I finish college in 2 weeks btw, then i'm off to go do a degree in computer science.

Well, good luck. Who knows, maybe one day you'll even understand something about what you're talking. You'll surprise me if you do.

Originally posted by Phuzzi
No, judging by what i've read from sources that are reliable. That speculation I mentioned was readily apparant at news sites when that particular NV30 information was released.

Oh, I see. It's on the internet, so it must be true.

Originally posted by Phuzzi
**** **** ****ity **** ****. It's just a word. My useage of it hardly betrayed any lack of intelligence on my part.

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with your statement.

[YoD]

Originally posted by Satan


Yes, and this board would be much better if everyone* was a bit smarter. But we can't ban people for idiocy, so we'll just have to deal with it.
You know, there are many ESL** users here, and it's considered very lame to pick on their grammatical errors. Their "engrish" (sic) may not be as good as yours, but I'm sure your french or german or [insert a foreign language here] is not as good as theirs.

*you
**English as a Second Language

I'm not trying to seduce him here, but Phuzzi is very smart. And he didn't try to attack him on his bad english. Read before making your comments.

Originally posted by Satan

Well, good luck. Who knows, maybe one day you'll even understand something about what you're talking. You'll surprise me if you do.

HAHAHA. Let me laugh. If you want to find one person on this board who knows something about hardware, it's Phuzzi.

Originally posted by Satan

Oh, I see. It's on the internet, so it must be true.

Again, I'll have to tell you to try to read better... He said RELIABLE. And there are RELIABLE sources on the Internet. Internet is as good as TV or newspaper for news source.

Originally posted by Satan

I'm sorry, but I have to disagree with your statement.

How do you disagree with that statement? Again, he is intelligent and the use of the word '****' isn't showing any sign of non-intelligence.




/me awaits a violent reply, so I'll just walk away from this thread.

[Satan]

Originally posted by YoD
I'm not trying to seduce him here, but Phuzzi is very smart. And he didn't try to attack him on his bad english. Read before making your comments.

He made a sarcastic remark about Enigma's english. No matter how hard you try, you can't deny it. It's just plain stupid to point out the errors of a ESL user. I'm dyslexic, would you care to point out my typos? Or do you realize how stupid it is?

Originally posted by YoD
HAHAHA. Let me laugh. If you want to find one person on this board who knows something about hardware, it's Phuzzi.

Yes, I'm sure he has learned everything there is to be learned*. He must know a lot more than me, a mere engineer who's been on this business for a long time. Who knows, maybe he could teach me something.

*on the internet, of course

Originally posted by YoD
Again, I'll have to tell you to try to read better... He said RELIABLE. And there are RELIABLE sources on the Internet. Internet is as good as TV or newspaper for news source.

Reliable source?! You mean, a reliable source for rumours?! There are no reliable sources when it comes to rumours. It's all speculation. If you want to believe it, then fine. I'm sure you downloaded SVGS.

Originally posted by YoD
How do you disagree with that statement? Again, he is intelligent and the use of the word '****' isn't showing any sign of non-intelligence.

I've never seen an intelligent guy who needed to resort to swearing to prove a point. It's only used when you run out of arguments. Then you try to make a point by insulting the other posters. You know, next time he may be here making comments about the other posters' mothers. I wouldn't be surprised.

Originally posted by YoD
/me awaits a violent reply, so I'll just walk away from this thread.

I must congratulate you for being this board's greatest coward ever. You come to the rescue, and then run back to momma. How pathetic.

That's it, that's all, that's everybody. This thread has degenerated into just another war. Thread closed.
sx/amiga

Poo