New I7 PC.

[Yeloazndevil]

oh **** its ChrisRay long time no see man.

btw you can always give me pc parts

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[Phil]

Ill buy some ;p

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[ChrisRay]

Hehehe. I decided to finally try PCSX2 and it seems to be working fine. I did have to generate an SLI profile for it because its buggy without some SLI compatibility tweaks turned on. Doesn't do much though since it seems entirely CPU limited.

Using 2048x2048 Internal Res. I got some pretty good results I think. Looks much better than it did a year ago when I last tried it on my Core 2 Quad. I don't know the ins and outs of tweaking the plugins yet. Turbo mode works so well I havent felt the need to overclock it yet. But I only have FF10 and FF10-2 so I need some more games.

P.S. Does the internal texture resolution set to whatever you set it too? As long as its under 4096x4096? Or does it go 1024x1024-2048x2048-4096-4096?

P.S.S. Yes I know the emu is not default configured for optimal SLI scaling. All I did was force it to use 4 GPUS without generating errors. If anyone would like an SLI profile that doesn't generate errors let me know.

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[Phil]

Nice results. Pcsx2 with SLI? Now were talking

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[ChrisRay]

Originally Posted by Phil

Nice results. Pcsx2 with SLI? Now were talking

Ya just keep in mind it doesn't scale much. I wouldn't say its the fault of SLI or the app. Its just that emulation is so much more CPU limited on on any recently modern the GPUS are more than powerful enough to run it. I'm sure under the right conditions I could get it to scale. Its mostly just a question of getting a compatible profile. If you look at the last picture you can see some GPU load balancing going on. ((about 25%)). The other 3 are in the range of 10%.


On Another note. I decided to do something stupidly un needed. And put a 260-216 in there for PhysX to play Batman. It worked. But the 295's really arent thermally designed to have a big GPU in between them since they pull air from both sides. So I only did this briefly to test thermals in a game. I also am unsatisfied with the wiring. I'm gonna have to improve it a bit for 3 Way when I finally get it.

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[Squall-Leonhart]

save your pennies and go Fermi when it gets here.




We all know you will. :P

[ChrisRay]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

save your pennies and go Fermi when it gets here.




We all know you will. :P

Oh I am definately getting Fermi of some sort or another. ((hopefully 3Way)) The entire purpose of this upgrade was to be ready for it

Chris

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[Squall-Leonhart]

I expect early notification when you finish the review :P

[Demigod]

Originally Posted by ChrisRay

Dunno how much team SLIZONE would like that. :P I honestly don't do much folding during the summer. Because of the sheer amount of heat it can put out. However I may give it a try during winter since its cooling. I pretty much have my GPUS/CPU at highest idle settings while browsing/working. Because they can put out a tremendous amount of heat if CPU/GPUS are running full load all the time

We just blew past team SLI-zone

But yeah, GPU folding can produce mounds of heat. It's why I cool mine with water.

BTW, do you have any idea as to the actual release date of the GT300? I heard it's been pushed back to April of next year (to the sheer delight of AMD fanboys and shareholders).

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[Squall-Leonhart]

February - March.




Regardless, ATI as having just as many yield issues since TMSC keeps ****ing up the process line.

[Cid Highwind]

Originally Posted by Demigod

BTW, do you have any idea as to the actual release date of the GT300? I heard it's been pushed back to April of next year (to the sheer delight of AMD fanboys and shareholders).

Ugh, ATi fanboys are the worst. It's one thing to see your company do well, it's a whole other story when you think a monopoly is a good situation

Bring on Fermi and let ATi release its new stuff as well, progress all the way. Unfortunately it will mean more power for developers, so less optimized games, agh meh... darn PC gaming.

But well, I second Demigod's motion, join the team

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[Samor]

Hey, ChrisRay, long time no see, and, nice rig

@cid: seems your rig beats mine nowadays too. I didn't upgrade anything after the "forced" GTX260 upgrade 1 1/2 years ago... so I guess I belong to the "average" crew again now

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[Cid Highwind]

Originally Posted by Samor

Hey, ChrisRay, long time no see, and, nice rig

@cid: seems your rig beats mine nowadays too. I didn't upgrade anything after the "forced" GTX260 upgrade 1 1/2 years ago... so I guess I belong to the "average" crew again now

Well, not in folding, with your 260 I have no chance of ever catching up. But yeah, still a PC gamer here, even though I promised myself not to upgrade for this reason anymore. I'm also quite content with the gaming power it currently has. The only upgrade I can foresee is a move to 4GB of RAM, but even that is a long term thing as I have no need for it now. (though usually when making such statements I'm only a month away from actually doing so )

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[ChrisRay]

Considering how cheap memory is nowadays. You 4 gigs is really cheap upgrade.

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[Cid Highwind]

Originally Posted by ChrisRay

Considering how cheap memory is nowadays. You 4 gigs is really cheap upgrade.

Memory's cheap, I'm cheaper. Considering how the prices have doubled since I bought my last set, it's not that much of a budget deal anymore, unfortunately. I'm also considering to just skip the entire idea of 4GB of DDR2, and move to DDR3 once it becomes affordable. The DDR2 could make my GF happy, as well as my old motherboard, since I found out the MSI she has is a POS. No MSI for me anymore, can't even put in some voltage regulation on a P35

Or I could just check for a nice second handed DDR2 set, though I'll end up with 4 modules.

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Luckily when i upgraded my ram from those f... corsair to Muskin i was just barely in time before the the prices for DDR2 jumped up high .

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[ChrisRay]

Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

Memory's cheap, I'm cheaper. Considering how the prices have doubled since I bought my last set, it's not that much of a budget deal anymore, unfortunately. I'm also considering to just skip the entire idea of 4GB of DDR2, and move to DDR3 once it becomes affordable. The DDR2 could make my GF happy, as well as my old motherboard, since I found out the MSI she has is a POS. No MSI for me anymore, can't even put in some voltage regulation on a P35

Or I could just check for a nice second handed DDR2 set, though I'll end up with 4 modules.

I remember when memory was having fire sales this summer. Could pick up DDR3 4 gig kits for about 60 dollars. Ya its a little expensive. But I hear a little birdy tell me thats it about to come down in price again.

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[Zedeck]

Dropping another 2x1GB in is your best economical way to do it. If you are going to do it, I'd do it now, though. DDR2 isn't going to get any cheaper. Unless you'll be upgrading to a DDR3 platform soon, I'd grab the RAM now before it goes any higher. I warned people to grab 4GB while it was still $46.99. We won't often see a good chance to have gobs of memory for so cheap, and I'd have seen myself foolish not to grab it. I'm glad I did.

Heck, I remember comparing it (my initial 4GB) to 8GB in a thread here some months ago, and I originally decided that 4GB, at the time, would had been better for me because it allowed me to have my CPU at 4.5GHz. Well, as you can see, I've opted for the 8GB despite that, so what does that tell you?

There's tons of reviews, blogs, and such that probably show comparisons of Windows 7 with different amounts of RAM, and it probably concludes that the performance numbers show 4GB as a good bit better than 2GB, and 8GB having nearly no improvement, and thus concluding that 2GB is okay, and 4GB is ideal. The performance may not be much faster, and perhaps it is partly placebo affect, but with 8GB, and even 4GB to a slightly smaller extent, it feels alot smoother and snappier and responsive. Windows 7 will work well with smaller amounts, sure, but that's no excuse to not have alot of RAM, I say. It will still work better if you give it more too. By comparison, my secondary PC, which has an E8400 and 2GB RAM on a 32-bit Windows 7, feels quite a bit less snappy (although there is a FSB difference of 1333MHz vs 1600MHz and clock speed difference of 3.0GHz vs 4.0GHz respectively, I'm not sure that matters much for general stuff).

Look at this.

Windows 7 – 4GB vs 8GB Performance | The "Break it Down" Blog

The performance itself, at least for now while the single and individual applications themselves don't need much, don't show much difference, but by time they do, you're probably already strapped for RAM. Having alot means less disk trashing, less page file usage, and an overall more responsive PC. I'm not saying 2GB is insufficient (it's quite honestly plenty, for now), but if you can, the benefits of more are well worth it if you ask me.

Also, you can look at it like this if you want to.

Windows XP's minimum requirements were 128MB RAM (64MB technically, but 128MB practically). 256MB was double that (the recommended, too, I think), and was initially what everyone wanted as the minimum. The gamers then had 512MB, and then went up to 1GB when everyone else had 256MB, and then they moved up to 512MB. 1GB is four times the minimum requirements, eight if you go by the 64MB requirement. I know these are different OSes, but I think we'll see somewhat similar trends here. 2GB was okay for the launch, but it'll soon be the next 256MB. Go with 512MB (4GB) minimum for Windows 7, and make it 64-bit. The only reason for going with 32-bit is if you have a CPU that's not 64-bit (read, netbooks).

I think that for the long haul of the OS, you're best bet is to buckle down with 4GB or more. 2GB is still okay for now, sure, but with the prices only looking to go higher, grab what you can now. People honestly should have done this months ago when they were practically giving the RAM away. In fact, if I had my way, if I could had, I'd like to have added even more than the 8GB I did, but the chipset/RAM slots were maxed out (and although some LGA775 boards took 16GB I think, 4GB modules were, and still are, ridiculously expensive, hence 12GB in 6 slot motherboards and 8GB in 4 slot motherboards is the most you'll typically see, for now anyway...).

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[ChrisRay]

Btw. I don't want you guys who asked me about Fermi to think I'm ignoring you. I just can't comment.

Chris

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[Cid Highwind]

Originally Posted by Lord Zedeck

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Yup, in retrospect it might've been better having done that. Still, coming from XP I feel Windows 7 much smoother. Maybe my installation was a bit messed, despite it being only a year old.

About Windows XP: The official requirements must've stated as such that as little as 256MB might be enough, but that's before all the service packs. Besides, software has become bigger and bigger as well. Nowadays I think the minimum for XP is 512MB, while 1GB is recommended, if you want a smooth performance.

For my situation, for now I can get by just fine and don't feel it's needed. Maybe a nice second handed set will be a good idea still. I'll look for some sales, and read up on your review Thanks for the link.

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