Emuforums system builders guide

[shafeen]

thought that if we would have our very own system builders guide for different budgets it would be cool......wat say about the idea??......(and it wont be as biased as we find some of those guides around the net )

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[StriderVM]

C'mon it will be Intel biased! You know that will happen! .... I think.....

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AsRock 945GCM-S
Pentium Dual Core E5200 @ 2912Mhz (233x12.5)
Palit Radeon 4850 Sonic 512MB gDDR3
2x2048MB Kingston DDR2 800Mhz RAM

[Fadingz]

price jumps a lot when new chips come out, so we need updates over 3 months or so

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Originally Posted by Fadespear

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[Lord Zedeck]

Yeah, it'd have to be updated far too frequently to make it worthwhile.

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MSI nVidia GeForce 8800GT 512MB - 4x Western Digital Caviar 6400AAKS (2,560GB total) - PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610
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[tuanming]

If you want or plan to plan a pc with 'a bit cheaper' then go with AMD =)

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Intel Core2Duo E6300 1.86Ghz L629A244 @ 3.78GHz
Asus P5K-E Wifi/AP Rev.1.02g
Thermalright Ultra Extreme 120+ FM121 (110 cfm fan)
ATI x1900 GT Rev.2 256mb 513/657

G.Skill 2x1gb Hz--540MHz
CORSAIR CMPSU-1000HX 1000W

[Cid Highwind]

Originally Posted by StriderVM

C'mon it will be Intel biased! You know that will happen! .... I think.....

It will be biased towards whatever's best on the market I think. Intel has simply been stronger during the C2D vs Athlon X2 days, just like many here preferred the Athlon 64 over the Pentium 4. When the Phenom II arrived there was a sudden peak in AMD interest for its value.

It's the same for nVidia versus ATi, which is always a strong debate that basically comes down to the question if people want a better emulation experience or more power in PC games.

I think the most problematic part would be what Lord Zedeck pointed out: Price jumps. Adding to that it's the global nature of this place. Prices vary too much around the globe and hardly anyone can get hardware as cheaply as those who have access to NewEgg.

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GPU: Sapphire ATi HD4870 / 1024MB / Core: 801 / Mem: 1000
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 (rev 2.1)
SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music
RAM: 2GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 @ 4-4-4-12 ~ 800MHz
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PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W
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[Cheesus]

A monthly guide would be brilliant. It'll just need a mod to look after it. As in, update the original post with the new content from different users regularly.

3 builds:
Ultra-low end, Mid-range, and something someone more tech savvy would really enjoy.

It'd sure as hell save alot of the 'building a new pc' threads.

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910GB HD; 22" HansG Hi221D; Windows 7 .7201 / iATKOS 10.5.7

Originally Posted by TheCloudOfSmoke

"Save the balls, save the world."

[gamefreak94]

Does bias really matter? Who says there has to be just one recommended build? There should be multiple recommended configurations for each price range incorporating components from a wide range of companies so that an on-looker can go with whichever companies he prefers, or blend various configurations to come up with a personal favorite.

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[Cid Highwind]

Originally Posted by Cheesus

A monthly guide would be brilliant. It'll just need a mod to look after it. As in, update the original post with the new content from different users regularly.

3 builds:
Ultra-low end, Mid-range, and something someone more tech savvy would really enjoy.

It'd sure as hell save alot of the 'building a new pc' threads.

I think that would have some potential. I think I would stick with 2 models though:

Low end OC
Midrange OC powerhouse

The high end is simply decided by the GPU anyway, for which the only changes are the motherboard (for crossfire / sli) and the cooling perhaps. I don't think having a real €1500,- build would be suitable for the community here, as we're all just poor buggers who prefer to put the whip on the hardware that we have

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PC Specs:
CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz
GPU: Sapphire ATi HD4870 / 1024MB / Core: 801 / Mem: 1000
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 (rev 2.1)
SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music
RAM: 2GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 @ 4-4-4-12 ~ 800MHz
HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, 32MB
PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W
Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 1920*1200

Geometry Wars: 198.400
Lumines: 999.999

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[gamefreak94]

So...I guess I'll try to get the ball rolling.

Budget build (a good, cheap all-rounder; PC gaming, moderate-good OC capability with cooler, decent emulation if OC'ed):

CPU: Intel Pentium dual-core E6300 ($80)
Motherboard: ASUS P5QL-CM (G43 chipset) ($60)
GPU: HIS/Sapphire/Gigabyte/XFX ATI HD4850 512MB/1GB ($110)
Casing: Cooler Master Gladiator ($70)
PSU: Corsair 450W non-modular ($65)
RAM: Kingston/Corsair/OCZ/G.Skill 800MHz 4GB (2x2GB) or single 2GB module. (4GB = $85, 2GB = $50)
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Green 640GB ($85)
Optical Drive: Any SATA DVD-RW optical drive from LiteOn, ASUS, LG, Sony or Samsung (example) ($20-$25)

OPTIONAL:
CPU cooler: Cooler Master Hyper TX3 ($25)

TOTAL: $500 - $600

Obviously just to something to get started, open to alterations

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[Fadingz]

Template:

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Originally Posted by Fadespear

Neither a borrower nor a lender be; For loan oft loses both itself and friend, and borrowing dulls the edge of biniantry.

My deviantART~

QX9650 @ 4.0GHz | 4x G.Skill 2GB DDR2 1066 | Vista 64 Ultimate | Quadro FX4600 (similar to 8800GTX) | X-Fi Elite Pro | SAMSUNG 2253BW | Cosmos S | ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA | 2x 150GB Raptor X RAID0 | ThermalTake ToughPower 850W | ZEROtherm Nirvana

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[StriderVM]

OK. Which website's pricing should we be basing the prices on? NewEgg? There has to be a basis of some sort.

Cid Highwind : C'mon I'm just joking.....

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Current PC specs :
AsRock 945GCM-S
Pentium Dual Core E5200 @ 2912Mhz (233x12.5)
Palit Radeon 4850 Sonic 512MB gDDR3
2x2048MB Kingston DDR2 800Mhz RAM

[Cid Highwind]

Originally Posted by StriderVM

OK. Which website's pricing should we be basing the prices on? NewEgg? There has to be a basis of some sort.

Cid Highwind : C'mon I'm just joking.....

lol, no worries. I just didn't want a full out fanboy war to start or to have anyone think there's any brand favoritism going on. I think most of our reputable home builders here know their stuff too well that if they turn a blind eye to one brand they'll end up with an inferior PC.

I think NewEgg wouldn't be a bad idea. At least it's globally known and it gives a good impression about prices. We simply shouldn't calculate rebates into the budget and let it be known that in other countries prices can and most likely will be higher.

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PC Specs:
CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz
GPU: Sapphire ATi HD4870 / 1024MB / Core: 801 / Mem: 1000
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 (rev 2.1)
SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music
RAM: 2GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 @ 4-4-4-12 ~ 800MHz
HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, 32MB
PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W
Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 1920*1200

Geometry Wars: 198.400
Lumines: 999.999

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[Cheesus]

So what will the price ranges be?

I reckon something around 400-600$ and another around 1000-1200$.

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Originally Posted by TheCloudOfSmoke

"Save the balls, save the world."

[nanaya]

I think we should differentiate build based on user ability to OC and what most common task he will do aside from price.

e.g. if he/she mostly play emulator and can/will OC then i'll suggest something from Intel and Nvidia based on his/her budget
or if he/she mostly do light emulator, game on PC with heavy setting and can't/won't OC then i'll suggest something like high clocked tri core amd and whatever is the best video card at the moment

This is not brand loyalty and just an example, but we DO need more input than price (though as this is an emulator site i think most will want emulator based build logically)

[Cid Highwind]

I have seen some builds by Runawayprisoner back in the day when he'd OC the heck out of a PC and give a CPU his sign of approval. I think the low end build would be great if its primary criterium would be to run PCSX2 well enough, as that's what people here want to do in general.

After that it's the case of finding a decent build with some midrange, yet overclockable quad core processor combined with a single powerful yet affordable GPU. Meaning you'll get probably a C2Q 9xxx series or Phenom II build with an ATi videocard or nVidia, kinda depending on local pricing.

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PC Specs:
CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz
GPU: Sapphire ATi HD4870 / 1024MB / Core: 801 / Mem: 1000
Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 (rev 2.1)
SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music
RAM: 2GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 @ 4-4-4-12 ~ 800MHz
HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, 32MB
PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W
Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 1920*1200

Geometry Wars: 198.400
Lumines: 999.999

Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!

[Fadingz]

Extreme OC ability various from chip to chip; you will be amazed by the range of performance of chips belong to the same model.
[tested some nano fabricated parts in labs]
Also, you never get the same result from exact same techniques, and more than 50% of the chips have premature failures before put on market.

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Originally Posted by Fadespear

Neither a borrower nor a lender be; For loan oft loses both itself and friend, and borrowing dulls the edge of biniantry.

My deviantART~

QX9650 @ 4.0GHz | 4x G.Skill 2GB DDR2 1066 | Vista 64 Ultimate | Quadro FX4600 (similar to 8800GTX) | X-Fi Elite Pro | SAMSUNG 2253BW | Cosmos S | ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA | 2x 150GB Raptor X RAID0 | ThermalTake ToughPower 850W | ZEROtherm Nirvana

[Phil]

Wheres the water cooled section?

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A PC is like a hooker, it's a lot cheaper and gives you what you're after.. and if unlucky some diseases as well, that's why you gotta use protection. -CC

[Fadingz]

Spent 5 min and made a small program that spits out a formatted text file lol
If someone wanna make a windows app out of it instead of console, go ahead.
just copy and paste the text file if you decide to use this:

TEST
CPU: Q9550 ($200)
MOBO: Rampage Formula ($200)
GPU: HD5750 ($300)
RAM: G.Skill 1066 DDR2 2DIMM 4GB ($70)
HDD: WD VelociRaptor ($200)
SPU: Built-in ($0)
PSU: ThermalTake ToughPower ($200)
OPTICAL DRIVE: LG DVD W/R ($27)
CPU Cooler: Nirvana ($49)
Grand Total: $1246
(Price taken from: Newegg)
NOTE: This is a test!

CPU, MOBO, SPU, GPU, PSU, HDD, RAM, and optical drive are core components you have to enter.
You can add any additional parts at the end.
Do not enter anything other than number for price; do not include '$' for price.
If you do, it will take the price to be zero.

Disclaimer: It's not a virus!
However, I don't guarantee your consequence; you are using it at your own risk.

Attached Files

BUILD_RECOMMENDATION.zip (10.2 KB, 4 views)

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Originally Posted by Fadespear

Neither a borrower nor a lender be; For loan oft loses both itself and friend, and borrowing dulls the edge of biniantry.

My deviantART~

QX9650 @ 4.0GHz | 4x G.Skill 2GB DDR2 1066 | Vista 64 Ultimate | Quadro FX4600 (similar to 8800GTX) | X-Fi Elite Pro | SAMSUNG 2253BW | Cosmos S | ASUS RAMPAGE FORMULA | 2x 150GB Raptor X RAID0 | ThermalTake ToughPower 850W | ZEROtherm Nirvana

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[gamefreak94]

I assigned a basic purpose for the build I came up with. The config was good for PC gaming and can be OC'ed quite a bit too with the extra cooler. Get the E6300 to 3.5'ish (no big deal I suppose) and you're good to go to emulate most games at playable speeds on heavy emus too.

Basic home PC (for casual gaming, emulation and regular computing tasks):

CPU: Intel Pentium dual-core E2200 2.2GHz
Motherboard: ASUS P5KPL-CM (G31 chipset)
RAM: 2GB Kingston Value-RAM 667MHz (or 1GB if you don't run that many heavy apps).
GPU: ATI Radeon HD4350
Case: Cooler Master Elite 335 (with 350W PSU)
HDD: Western Digital/Seagate 250GB
Optical Drive: Any SATA DVD-RW capable drive by LiteOn, ASUS, Samsung, Sony or LG.

So just one more config needed from the $1k+ range I guess...

Spoiler:

Will put in the prices later since I'm feeling too lazy atm

Originally Posted by Phil

Wheres the water cooled section?

Highly limited market

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How to configure uTorrent for maximum upload and download speed?

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