my 8 year old moniter can push higher res than the max

[Lord Zedeck]

Drivers improving performance is one thing. Saying your card is twice as powerful as any other of the same card out there, and saying you're running Crysis, with the settings maximized, at 1680x1050 (or a slightly lower equivalent), at a constant 60FPS, is another.

Originally Posted by strike105x

am i the only one here that thinks 1600X1024 is not a good aspect ratio resolution :P

It's about the same (if not the same) aspect ratio as 1280x720, 1680x1050 (very close to this one), and 1920x1200.

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[BigIg]

Originally Posted by Lord Zedeck

Are you certain it's not really a monitor that can do 1600x1200 and is just recommended to be run at 1024x768? There's a difference..

1024x768 is the recommended res, 1280x1024 is the specified 'maximum', however 1600x1200 works fine set as a custom resolution.

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[gamefreak94]

Originally Posted by strike105x

am i the only one here that thinks 1600X1024 is not a good aspect ratio resolution :P

Nope xD

Seriously dude, 1600x1024 on a 4:3 CRT would look utterly HORRIBLE either scaled or fixed. If you're so confident about your monitor's capability then you should take it to 1600x1200 so the ratio is actually reasonable.

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[Kenshin Ryoudo]

Originally Posted by gamefreak94

Nope xD

Seriously dude, 1600x1024 on a 4:3 CRT would look utterly HORRIBLE either scaled or fixed. If you're so confident about your monitor's capability then you should take it to 1600x1200 so the ratio is actually reasonable.

1600X1200 doesn't seem like a bad ratio at all i will try it on the other hand how i got crysis to run smoothly on an higher resolution was simple i went to invidia control panel and set everything to performance this is how i did it. I sacraficed quality for performance in the settings below and started crysis and went into system settings and set everything to max.

anisotropic filtering off
all antialiasing off
conformant texture clamp hardware
error reporting none
extension limit off
max prefered frames 3
multi display/mixed gpu acceleration set to single display performance
power management mode new feature set to adaptive
texture filtering-anistropic sample off
texture filtering-negative LOD bias set to global settings allow
texture filtering quality set to global settings high performance
texture filtering trilinear optimization set to on
threaded optimization off
triple buffering off
vsync off

[Lord Zedeck]

Just turning the filtering quality down in the drivers control panel isn't going to double your frame rates in Crysis. I'm sorry, but I'm going to believe what I know the card can and can't do, and the benchmarks, over that claim. That card can't do maximum at 1024x768 at that frame rate, so don't expect me to believe it can at almost 1680x1050 with a minor driver setting change.

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[gamefreak94]

I ran Crysis Warhead on 1280x1024 with all settings on gamer (texture and shadows on enthusiast) and my fps rate was lingering around the 27-30 mark (or so I assume, didn't record it with Fraps). I doubt you could run it on 1600x1024 with all settings on max at a constant 60fps.......unless your 9800GTX somehow performs 3x better then a 9600GT

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Originally Posted by gamefreak94

I ran Crysis Warhead on 1280x1024 with all settings on gamer (texture and shadows on enthusiast) and my fps rate was lingering around the 27-30 mark (or so I assume, didn't record it with Fraps). I doubt you could run it on 1600x1024 with all settings on max at a constant 60fps.......unless your 9800GTX somehow performs 3x better then a 9600GT

i got the overclocked edittion of the 9800gtx+ as it says on the box
GeForce 9800GTX+ 500mb GDDR3 OC

[Ahielia]

Originally Posted by Kenshin Ryoudo

i got the overclocked edittion of the 9800gtx+ as it says on the box
GeForce 9800GTX+ 500mb GDDR3 OC

It doesn't gain a heap of performance being factory overclocked.

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[Kenshin Ryoudo]

Originally Posted by Ahielia

It doesn't gain a heap of performance being factory overclocked.

i got to some 9800 are stronger and some are weaker depending on what brand and how much you want to shell out. But when it comes to gaming your settings are crucial, sure i can make crysis look like super eyecandy by putting everything to quality but at the same time my performance will suffer horribly.

[Lord Zedeck]

Overclocking doesn't make a big world of difference (my card is an OC edition too), nor does the nVidia filtering options. The brand, while it may affect the build quality and some other things, does not affect the speed of the GPU itself.

You even say your card is 500MB when it's not. It's 512MB.

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[jonc2006]

Originally Posted by Lord Zedeck

If it stays there over ~90%-95% of the time, I'd consider it constant enough to be constant in terms of frame rate. If it isn't jumping all over the place, and stays at one value, and drops 5 frames here or there, I'd say that's considered constant.

I don't think I even get a constant 60FPS in Crysis at maximum at 1280x960, and my GPU isn't that much weaker than yours. I'm sure others here with GPUs equal or stronger than yours will vouch than they can't get a constant 60FPS in Crysis at maximum at 1680x1050 (the closest comparable standard resolution). 60FPS at times is nowhere near the same thing as a constant 60FPS.

Your RAM is what's holding you back? I don't think you know what you're talking about. 2GB is enough for Crysis. Yes, more (4GB) does drastically cut loading times, and more even still (8GB) increases the minimum frame rate (compared to 4GB) by a "whopping" 50%, but I doubt that's the issue here, because I doubt your GPU is even putting out that kind of frame rate.

Edit:

XFX 9800GTX+ Review » Page 6 - Testing: Crysis - Overclockers Club

ATI Radeon HD 4850 Versus NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX+ - Crysis - Legit Reviews

Right off the bat looking at the first chart, at a lower resolution (1024x768) and lower settings (High, not Very Hight), it still doesn't get 60FPS. I could find more, but these say enough. Your card isn't getting a constant 60FPS, unless, of course, your 9800GTX+ is over two times stronger than everyone elses...

i dont even get a constant 60 on my system with the settings maxed, even with SLI enabled i still get dropped into the 30-40 range in some parts regardless of the res.

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[runawayprisoner]

Originally Posted by Kenshin Ryoudo

i got to some 9800 are stronger and some are weaker depending on what brand and how much you want to shell out. But when it comes to gaming your settings are crucial, sure i can make crysis look like super eyecandy by putting everything to quality but at the same time my performance will suffer horribly.

All 9800 should be equal regardless of brand... and relatively linear in terms of performance regardless of clocks.

And judging from what you're trying to say here, I can assume that you did not mean that you maxed out all settings in Crysis and you "selectively" tweaked them using those "super high but still fast" configurations out there.

For your information, though, even a dual GTX 295 setup (quad-SLI) may have problems keeping Crysis in check at at least 60fps at that resolution and with all default settings maxed (Very High). Even Crysis Warhead won't be able to do so. Warhead just further reduces some settings, but thanks to clever mapping, you can't see them as you would with Crysis, but you can still see the reduction in some cases.

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[S.SubZero]

My old 21" CRT could do slightly over the listed specs. It's nothing special. It's likely the tube and logic they used for the monitor was actually for another model, or simply tested higher than is required for that model.

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[Kenshin Ryoudo]

Originally Posted by S.SubZero

My old 21" CRT could do slightly over the listed specs. It's nothing special. It's likely the tube and logic they used for the monitor was actually for another model, or simply tested higher than is required for that model.

Also my CRT is an aftermarket product also not trying to say my monitors better than anyone elses also. i had this crt ever since my first computer. when i was first starting a buddy of mine told me to always go for aftermarket because its better quality.

[Kenshin Ryoudo]

Lord zedeck here's your evidence its proven that crysis can run at higher speeds with this card see for yourself.

YouTube - CRYSIS CONFIG IMPROVE GRAPHICS AND FPS [HQ]

[Lord Zedeck]

You may as well give it up. I, and nobody else, is going to believe you.

1. Your card can not be triple the speed as all the others.

2. That's a configuration edit. You said maximum settings, which means the game's standard maximum.

3. That YouTube video is of 1280x1024, not 1680x1050 (or 1600x1024, whatever). I doubt that video is even a constant 60FPS.

4. This one doesn't stand much by itself, but it's an example of actual numbers with that configuration int he video. One of the comments says this.

"Thanks i used the config graphics are awesome 1440x900 HIGH 21-30fps 8800GS "

Granted, they should perhaps be getting a bit more, but if that number is any evidence, there's no way you're getting triple that and at a larger resolution. You card would have to be four times quicker in Crysis, and it's not.

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[gamefreak94]

YouTube gameplay videos in general are not very reliable. I came across a couple of people there posting videos of their HD 2600 Pros running Crysis on high settings at playable speeds.

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