RAM memory in your computer

[strike105x]

I would rather let you guess what ram i have...

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[BigIg]

If you use Virtual Machines as much as I do, ram is important.

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[S.T.A.R.S.]

RAM is important I agree.But I still think that people are overreacting when they have 8GB of RAM or more...Who the hell needs that much RAM,UNLESS if you are running many services on that computer or some other things...,otherwise what's the point of having so much RAM heh??

Ok I admit that my laptop sucks and I could get a new one,but there is one problem...I need money.Lol...

Anyway...I noticed that people stopped using Windows XP.Not all,but more and more people are using Vista.Ehh...may I ask why???Is it because it works better then XP if you have much RAM???Or hardware and software compatibility???
Vista eats so much ******* RAM.I am not saying that Vista is bad,it is a great operating system,but you need a pretty strong machine to run all it's features on the maximum level.I read that SP2 for Vista fixes some of the bugs including the bugs for the performance.Does Vista now works better and faster with SP2 installed or it's almost the same?
The reason why I am asking this is because I am maybe going to install it on my mom's laptop,because XP is crashing all the time for UNKNOWN reason,and Windows Millennium is working great...lol......strange I know...

As for Windows 7,it's much better then Vista.That's for sure.It doesn't suck almost your entire RAM.But I am not using it since the final version is still not finished.As I said many times,I never use betas and prereleases.

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[S.SubZero]

Is this even worth replying to? I kind of had some sort of rational response ready to go, but it just looks so contrived, I can't take it seriously.

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[masta.g.86]

A lot of people have switched to Vista simply because it's "new". Some have noticed a startup and application startup speed increase, so they continue to use Vista over XP.

For me, it was an overall slowdown, especially in gaming and video encoding. Some of my AVISynth video scripts use just over 2GB of RAM and of course Vista continued to try and use as much RAM for itself as possible. I'm sure things have improved a bit since the release of SP2, but I switched back to XP in less than a week of using Vista. Once Windows 7 came out, I've been using it instead of XP. It's everything Vista should have been, considering all of the hype around its release. I don't mind that I'm using an unfinished OS as my primary OS. To me, Windows 7 is that good and I will purchase my own copy when it's released.

As for XP crashing, it's most likely one of your drivers. Considering the laptop's age, I'd say it's one of the drivers that's just old and buggy.

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[BigIg]

The simple fact is that Windows XP is becoming outdated. Soon DirectX 10/11 only games will come out and XP will slowly die.

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Yea you are right about that the XP is outdated.It's about 8 years old heh.But I must admit that Windows XP was the most frequently used operating system from Microsoft.It served us pretty good and I agree that it's time to move to a new operating system and new technologies.

Try to imaginate how strong computers will be in the next 8 years.So strong that Vista will work maybe even faster then XP,(if Microsoft makes very good SP3).Anyway...maybe tomorrow I am going to buy new 256x2 MB RAM chips and put them in my TEST computer because these are already damaged and everything is working like crap.And after that I will install Windows Vista Ultimate Edition on 512 MB-RAM computer and see how will it work.Probably not even close like on 4 GB-RAM machines,but I think it will work well enough for my small needs,considering that I am going to do that on my TEST computer on which I am usually just seeding my torrents,burning CD-s and DVD-s and here and there test some sample C# codes in C# 2002.

I tryed EVERY SINGLE operating system from Microsoft,starting from Windows 95,but I personally NEVER tryed Windows Vista,my brother did however,and I am really interested in all those new things.

Just one stupid question...Does Vista 32-bit Edition supports more then 4 GB of RAM or does ALL 32-bit systems support only until 4 GB of RAM,NO MATTER what operating system from Microsoft you use???

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[BigIg]

Why would you buy 2x256MB? 2x1GB would be better since most computers can accept 1GB RAM chips and there is not a huge price difference.

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[masta.g.86]

32bit OSes only can use a maximum of 4GB (2^32 = 4294967296 or 4Gig)

The OS will only be able to use about 3GB due to some kind of limitation. The remaining 1GB is a mirror for addressing other devices or something like that... I can't remember exactly. >< There are articles on this subject out on the net.

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[S.T.A.R.S.]

Originally Posted by BigIg

Why would you buy 2x256MB? 2x1GB would be better since most computers can accept 1GB RAM chips and there is not a huge price difference.

I don't know about the prices where you live,but I do know that here 1 GB is pretty expensive and especially 2 GB.That's why I can afford only 512 MB of RAM.

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Where do you live?

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Originally Posted by S.T.A.R.S.

RAM is important I agree.But I still think that people are overreacting when they have 8GB of RAM or more...Who the hell needs that much RAM,UNLESS if you are running many services on that computer or some other things...,otherwise what's the point of having so much RAM heh??

I could probably get away with 4GB (and usually do), maybe 2GB. I just like to have alot of RAM.

There's many reason people might have 4GB or 8GB of RAM. For one, Windows Vista/7 need more RAM than Windows XP (where 1GB can still be a decent amount if you're not playing the latest games, and 2GB is plenty), even if some of it is used for prefretching (or whatever it is those two operating systems do which is seen through their higher RAM consumption). Programs are using more and more RAM, and will continue to do so. People are switching to 64-bit versions (which, as a general and rough rule of thumb, are better with more RAM). People want to have more than they need for the future. All of these things combined make at least 4GB a good minimum, and 8GB an ideal setting, albeit overkill now (and for Core i7, 6GB is good, and 12GB can be achieved later by adding another 6GB, since I do believe it is still overkill now, as is 8GB for most people).

I liken 2GB usability to that of Windows XP (of course it depends on your own use, since 2GB may be plenty to some). It's still plausible for some, but fading out.

Originally Posted by S.SubZero

Is this even worth replying to? I kind of had some sort of rational response ready to go, but it just looks so contrived, I can't take it seriously.

I was basically thinking the same thing, to a lesser extent (rather than not taking it seriously, I was hard pressed to be bothered). I know the questions are serious, but then just make a list of questions. You'll get answers faster and better that way.

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[Haithm]

Old RAM technology is more expensive than recent RAM technology.

I used to compress files at high levels. More RAM is required to use very high compression levels. If I have 2 GB only and my compression needs 1500 MB. I have to close some app and so there is no freedom in doing it. That is in Windows XP. If you're using Windows Vista or Windows 7 then forget about it.

I agree that the optimal amount of RAM now days should be 4 GB. Just look at newegg.com, most of the computers and even laptops have at least 4 GB of RAM.

[S.T.A.R.S.]

Originally Posted by Haithm

Old RAM technology is more expensive than recent RAM technology.

I used to compress files at high levels. More RAM is required to use very high compression levels. If I have 2 GB only and my compression needs 1500 MB. I have to close some app and so there is no freedom in doing it. That is in Windows XP. If you're using Windows Vista or Windows 7 then forget about it.

I agree that the optimal amount of RAM now days should be 4 GB. Just look at newegg.com, most of the computers and even laptops have at least 4 GB of RAM.

4 GB of RAM is now optimal???Lol...ouch!

Originally Posted by BigIg

Where do you live?

Croatia-Istra.Everything is so ******* expensive here.And now this damn chrise came and everything is even worse.

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[Lord Zedeck]

On Dell's website, the lowest/entry-level OEM computers (from the few I checked) all have 2GB, with 4GB, 6GB, and 8GB being higher options.

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[Cid Highwind]

That's because you already need 2GB to run all the crapware Dell installs with it...

Anyway Stars dude, if you would like some advise, I think the best is to list what your current specs are, and what you could possibly get for your money. An upgrade to 1GB will already give you a nice boost over 512. It's also recommended to have 2*512 MB in that case, since Dual Channel might help a lot as well.

4GB I would consider a luxury nowadays. Sure if you run the heaviest games and several apps 2GB might just not be big enough. If you'd buy a new PC it would be wise to get 4GB, but currently most people can get away with 2GB, especially on Windows Xp.

How many RAM slots do you have anyway? Are you on DDR1 or DDR2? Or better yet, what is it actually that you're asking from us? I think all the technical questions have been answered already

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Especially in the UK now, though that RAM may smell fishy.

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[S.T.A.R.S.]

Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

That's because you already need 2GB to run all the crapware Dell installs with it...

Anyway Stars dude, if you would like some advise, I think the best is to list what your current specs are, and what you could possibly get for your money. An upgrade to 1GB will already give you a nice boost over 512. It's also recommended to have 2*512 MB in that case, since Dual Channel might help a lot as well.

4GB I would consider a luxury nowadays. Sure if you run the heaviest games and several apps 2GB might just not be big enough. If you'd buy a new PC it would be wise to get 4GB, but currently most people can get away with 2GB, especially on Windows Xp.

How many RAM slots do you have anyway? Are you on DDR1 or DDR2? Or better yet, what is it actually that you're asking from us? I think all the technical questions have been answered already

Lol feel free to laugh because my laptop specifications sucks.Anyway here it is:

-2x256 MB of RAM (2 slots)
-ATI Mobility Radeon 9700 with 64 MB
-1.6 ghz (no dual or quad core)
-2 MB of L2 cache
-HDD size is 120 GB (can't really remember the number of spinning per
minute)
-Operating system is Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with service
pack 2
-Laptop is Acer TravelMate 4000 series

The bad thing is that I cannot change the graphic card or anything else,except the RAM chips,CD-ROM and HDD.

By the way...1 GB of RAM here is expensive as hell.But if I am already going to buy new chips,I would of course like to get 4 GB of RAM like anyone else and not just 1 GB of RAM.
I just don't understand one thing.I am running more then 24 programs in the background on my 512 MB RAM laptop and everything works so freaking good and fast.I tryed to do the same thing on 2 GB RAM machine and it worked a little bit slower lol.So freaking strange...I guess I was very lucky when I got good quality hardware when I bought that laptop 6 years ago.Of course there are some things that block here and there.For example the Windows movie maker.While I am making that "Planet Earth" video,here and there it blocks and then again it unblocks.I guess I really need more then 512 MB of RAM.Sometimes the Windows movie maker blocks so hard that I need to end it's process and reopen the program again.And then I installed MemTurbo 3.0 and whenever Windows movie maker blocks,it unblocks EVERY time.Of course I need to wait for about 15-25 seconds,but at least I know that it will unblock and I won't lose any unsaved changes to the movie.

Of course if I have 4 GB of RAM,Windows movie maker or any other programs probably wouldn't be blocking at all.

But for now I first need to buy 2x256 MB of RAM chips for my TEST computer and THEN I need to consider what I can buy for the laptop.

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