Integrated vs standalone gfx cards

Pestilence3 · February 8th, 2002

My fren has an integrated video card that is Sis 630 something I forgot the name. So, I was wondering, if he buys my Riva tnt 2 pci 32 m and put it under a vacant pci slot, will there be any conflict between the integrated video and the riva? how do i know if his pc will use the riva as the main display card?

Thanks in advance

Esturk · February 8th, 2002

Well just hook up the monitor to the new card and then disable the onboard video thru the BIOS.

**Zephon** · February 8th, 2002

There are two options: he can make the TNT2 his secondary card, so he would still use the SiS 630 as a primary video device, and the TNT2 would be available only in programs which recognizes secondary cards(most games).

Another option is to disable the onboard video card, like Esturk said, through the BIOS, or sometimes through jumpers. This way the PCI video card would be set as primary.

Esturk · February 8th, 2002

What are the specs of the SiS 630? And why would you not wanna disable it?

BoF2 · February 8th, 2002

I think most onboard video dont have hardware acceleration, bu have lots of ram nowadays.

Esturk · February 8th, 2002

Don't they share system RAM?

**fivefeet8** · February 8th, 2002

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Originally posted by BoF2
I think most onboard video dont have hardware acceleration, bu have lots of ram nowadays.

Most onboard video cards use your system ram as video ram.. Hence you can have a lot of video ram, but they are allocated from your system ram.. So if you have 64 megs of ram for your pc, your video card may use 8 megs of it for video ram leaving your system with only 56 megs.. I think it sucks.. The more you allocate for your video card, the less ram you have for your system..

gerbilcannon · February 8th, 2002

Last time I checked, they don't usually allow you to allocate much system ram to the video memory either. It isn't like you can toss unlimited amounts at it.

BoF2 · February 8th, 2002

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Originally posted by fivefeet8

Most onboard video cards use your system ram as video ram.. Hence you can have a lot of video ram, but they are allocated from your system ram.. So if you have 64 megs of ram for your pc, your video card may use 8 megs of it for video ram leaving your system with only 56 megs.. I think it sucks.. The more you allocate for your video card, the less ram you have for your system..

Holy crap, i never knew that. So some motherboard specs that say 64mb onboard video means thats the most that can be allocated?

**fivefeet8** · February 8th, 2002

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Originally posted by BoF2

Holy crap, i never knew that. So some motherboard specs that say 64mb onboard video means thats the most that can be allocated?

Or that's how much was allocated to the onboard video card from the main system ram..

**Shiori** · February 9th, 2002

btw, that's a BIG chunk of system memory being taken away.... so it's usually compensated by a substantial amount of RAM (256MB and up). Anything less than that would mean a significant slowdown, especially when running WinXP.

Pestilence3 · February 9th, 2002

How to disable the integrated gfx card thru BIOS? Under what option? Hehehe! Finally I get to sell my riva tnt2!!!

K.I.L.E.R · February 9th, 2002

AGP textures also allocates system memory to the gfx card if it runs out of onboard memory.

Jomama2001 · February 9th, 2002

I doubt this will work for your computer because I'm pretty sure you have a different bios. My bios is American Megatrend. When you first turn on your computer, repeately press Del (It's near the numpad). A menu should come up. For mine, I go to the "PCI/Plug and Play Setup" and there's a option that says "Primary Graphics Adapter". I can toggle mine between AGP (my onboard card is AGP) or PCI (I'll choose this if I get a PCI card because It will disable the onboard AGP graphic card). But be careful, make sure you know what you're doing because if you screw up, your computer might not even boot.

February 8th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Pestilence3 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 236	Integrated vs standalone gfx cards My fren has an integrated video card that is Sis 630 something I forgot the name. So, I was wondering, if he buys my Riva tnt 2 pci 32 m and put it under a vacant pci slot, will there be any conflict between the integrated video and the riva? how do i know if his pc will use the riva as the main display card? Thanks in advance __________________ My PC Spec for the next 2 years or more Intel Celeron 1000Mhz 512MB SDRAM Kingston Brand Geforce 2 MX 32MB Creative Vibra 128 PCI Soundcard 40.9 GB Maxtor 7200rpm HD 16x Aopen DVDrom, 8x/4x/32x Sony CDWriter Rockfire USB-PSX adapter + DualShock 2 pad :thumbup: WinXP Pro + Win98SE PS2 rocks! Games currently played: Gran Turismo 3

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Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,957	Well just hook up the monitor to the new card and then disable the onboard video thru the BIOS. __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 4MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5K Deluxe, Intel P35 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

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Zephon Key To The Universe Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 2,706	There are two options: he can make the TNT2 his secondary card, so he would still use the SiS 630 as a primary video device, and the TNT2 would be available only in programs which recognizes secondary cards(most games). Another option is to disable the onboard video card, like Esturk said, through the BIOS, or sometimes through jumpers. This way the PCI video card would be set as primary. __________________ But there is someone who remembers you Someone waiting for a sign that leads the way to you There is someone who will die for you Keep that in mind when the hope fails

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Esturk Registered User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada Posts: 6,957	Don't they share system RAM? __________________ Necrosaro: Windows XP Pro x64 Edition SP2 \| Intel Core 2 Duo E6750 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 4MB L2 Cache \| Asus P5K Deluxe, Intel P35 Chipset, Socket 775 \| 4GB Kingston PC5300 DDR2 \| Nvidia GeForce 8800GT, 1024MB \| Creative SB X-Fi Fatality Edition \| Western Digital Raptor WD1500ADFD, 150Gb, SATA, Western Digital WD5000AAKS, 500GB, SATA \| LG 16x DVD-RWx2 SATA.

February 8th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
BoF2 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 13	I think most onboard video dont have hardware acceleration, bu have lots of ram nowadays.

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Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	btw, that's a BIG chunk of system memory being taken away.... so it's usually compensated by a substantial amount of RAM (256MB and up). Anything less than that would mean a significant slowdown, especially when running WinXP. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..." Last edited by Shiori; February 9th, 2002 at 05:24.

February 9th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
Pestilence3 Registered User Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 236	How to disable the integrated gfx card thru BIOS? Under what option? Hehehe! Finally I get to sell my riva tnt2!!! __________________ My PC Spec for the next 2 years or more Intel Celeron 1000Mhz 512MB SDRAM Kingston Brand Geforce 2 MX 32MB Creative Vibra 128 PCI Soundcard 40.9 GB Maxtor 7200rpm HD 16x Aopen DVDrom, 8x/4x/32x Sony CDWriter Rockfire USB-PSX adapter + DualShock 2 pad :thumbup: WinXP Pro + Win98SE PS2 rocks! Games currently played: Gran Turismo 3

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K.I.L.E.R Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 2,338	AGP textures also allocates system memory to the gfx card if it runs out of onboard memory. __________________ Agent of love and justice, beautiful Sailor Senshi Sailor Moon.

February 9th, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Jomama2001 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 12	Depends on your mobo... I doubt this will work for your computer because I'm pretty sure you have a different bios. My bios is American Megatrend. When you first turn on your computer, repeately press Del (It's near the numpad). A menu should come up. For mine, I go to the "PCI/Plug and Play Setup" and there's a option that says "Primary Graphics Adapter". I can toggle mine between AGP (my onboard card is AGP) or PCI (I'll choose this if I get a PCI card because It will disable the onboard AGP graphic card). But be careful, make sure you know what you're doing because if you screw up, your computer might not even boot.

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