$809 i7 with 6GB DDR3 RAM, TWO 640GB Hard drives and a Radeon 4850

[LoneWolf]

Those systems are nice for the average user but there is no use telling us about it because we guys are people who are enthusiasts and do stuff which these builds aren't good enough for . Besides we like to have custom built computers .

[bkwegoharder]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

What we just said totally went over your head .

You are just a Dell salesman . Get of this forum .

people use those prebuilt ones because they think computers are rocket science to assembly .

Oh shut up. You're not the admin of this site. If anything you should got off the forum because all you do is flame.

[Squall-Leonhart]

Originally Posted by bkwegoharder

Oh shut up. You're not the admin of this site. If anything you should got off the forum because all you do is flame.

Funnily, so did/do I when the victim is posting FUD.

[bkwegoharder]

Originally Posted by LoneWolf

He is just a dell 's salesman that's all .

You're just a troll.

[LoneWolf]

Why the heck are you telling us about these systems. You are advertising them that automatically make you a salesman.

Try to talk nicely and you just get bossy.

[bkwegoharder]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

Core i7 DOES benefit multigpu setups like SLI. all the reviews show as much as a 20FPS increase when SLI is in use.









Nope,.. actually that is the whole of it.

ATI Catalyst 9.1 Out NOW with Full Support for OpenGL 3.0! | The Geeks Of 3D - 3D Tech News

ATi had support for opengl since Catalyst 9.1 So I was wrong about the newest drivers. but it is still supported

Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

I'm with Lord Zedeck here. Dell and HP are known to undervalue their PSUs. I've heard quite a few more horror stories about Antec's PSUs than Dell's anyway. I don't know if Dell puts the same PSUs in their home computers purchased by consumers as they do in those offered by companies, but I don't think they'll risk putting the crap de la crap in those machines, given the possible impact of data loss there, and the loss of a big customer.


1. ATi Avivo is for Crosscoding I think, and while it's fast, it lacks flexibility. I can't turn a DVD into something for my PSP unless I made a different compressed video out of it first. On top of that, I can't even select the resolution and bitrate in it. They still have a long way to go, unfortunately. Still it's a nice quick solution when you don't care about IQ too much

2. Anything that is CPU limited will see an increase in performance. The thing is, people don't sit at their PC with a stopwatch, and while encoding they don't care because modern PCs allow you to do other things at the meantime anyway. In games, because a lot of people put the settings all out, they are rather GPU limited, so in that case you won't see an increase in FPS.

And LoneWolf: The only ones deciding who will be heading towards the exit of the forums are us, staff. I suggest you watch your tongue and take a less offensive stance before you find yourself being pointed in the direction of it.

I didn't know much about the Avivo thing. Now that looks like a problem.

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[Squall-Leonhart]

Originally Posted by bkwegoharder

ATI Catalyst 9.1 Out NOW with Full Support for OpenGL 3.0! | The Geeks Of 3D - 3D Tech News

ATi had support for opengl since Catalyst 9.1 So I was wrong about the newest drivers. but it is still supported
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What THEY say, and what WE know, are both very different :P.

ATI = BUGGED OPENGL
BAD NPOT support.
Texture formats supported on Matrox, Intel and Nvidia drivers return issues or incredible slowness on ATI drivers.
Drivers do not respond to Framebuffer detection routines which work otherwise on all other hardware.

Funny though, since OpenGL 3.1 is out now, and ATI only just only got "full" 3.0 support? :P

http://developer.nvidia.com/object/opengl_3_driver.html

[BigIg]

Originally Posted by Lord Zedeck

Ughm, woah, total misinformation in the last few posts. Dell PSUs are (or at least, used to be, I haven't kept up the past two or so years) actually pretty good, expcept for the known bad issues with the Dimension 4600 model. Dell uses (used) underrated Delta and Foxconn PSUs, among others. They're definitely not as good as a quality aftermarket PSU, but they are decent workhorses given their low wattage (as are most Deltas and Foxconns) and that they're not intended to be super beefy.

Oh really? In my school which orders Dells by the boatload, at least 10% of them fail because of poor quality power supplies, and another 5% fail for other reasons.

And these are low-powered non-demanding systems. (Think e6300, 2gb ram, onboard gpu..)

[bkwegoharder]

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

What THEY say, and what WE know, are both very different :P.

ATI = BUGGED OPENGL
BAD NPOT support.
Texture formats supported on Matrox, Intel and Nvidia drivers return issues or incredible slowness on ATI drivers.
Drivers do not respond to Framebuffer detection routines which work otherwise on all other hardware.

Funny though, since OpenGL 3.1 is out now, and ATI only just only got "full" 3.0 support? :P

NVIDIA OpenGL 3.0/3.1 Support

Overclock3D.Net :: News :: Catalyst 9.5 scheduled for Friday

Okay Open GL 3.1 support in Catalyst 9.5 which came out just a little while ago. The 9.1 drivers are old anyway.

Also, how do you know that the ATI cards have those problems, even though we just got the driver update on the 15th.

[Squall-Leonhart]

:P Because i know.

memory issue, check epsxe board.
texture issue, check gamedev, and glide64 forums.
npot support, again, check out gamedev

[bkwegoharder]

I use EPSXE all the time. what is this memory issue that you speak of? I play with max settings as well.

[Squall-Leonhart]

ATI/OGL driver issue

[bkwegoharder]

I've honestly never had that problem and I always use the OGL2 plugin. Are people still have this problem? Obviously ATI is improving support for OGL with their drivers. A lot of the posts in the topicare real old. Plus a lot of people are using old cards as well. they could also be using old drivers. I don't know why they'd have problems when I have no problems.

[Squall-Leonhart]

a thread was started only about a week about with someone using a Radeon 4xxx and Cat 9.4 :\

[bkwegoharder]

Do you have a link to the topic?

[mamefan]

've honestly never had that problem and I always use the OGL2 plugin. Are people still have this problem? Obviously ATI is improving support for OGL with their drivers. A lot of the posts in the topicare real old. Plus a lot of people are using old cards as well. they could also be using old drivers. I don't know why they'd have problems when I have no problems.

............Maybe because you are too retarded to notice? Yes, you are flaming others, now I am flaming you because of your blatant stupidity!

[Squall-Leonhart]

*cough*
down!

[bkwegoharder]

Originally Posted by mamefan

............Maybe because you are too retarded to notice? Yes, you are flaming others, now I am flaming you because of your blatant stupidity!

u mad? I really felt like saying more, but why bother. I see that you could talk a lot of **** hiding over the internet.

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Also on a side note, there is a $639 deal on an i7, 4GB of DDR3 ram a 640GB hardrive, and a Radeon 4850 card.

Crazy. The i7 itself already costs 300 dollars. The processor alone is about half the price of the whole system. The deal also comes with Home premium which is 100 as well.
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[masta.g.86]

Originally Posted by bkwegoharder

Also on a side note, there is a $639 deal on an i7, 4GB of DDR3 ram a 640GB hardrive, and a Radeon 4850 card.

Go ahead and buy it. Don't let our words of warning hold you back. Statistically speaking, you're not very likely to become another "Dell statistic"... >.>

Originally Posted by bkwegoharder

Crazy. The i7 itself already costs 300 dollars. The processor alone is about half the price of the whole system. The deal also comes with Home premium which is 100 as well.
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[bkwegoharder]

Originally Posted by masta.g.86

Go ahead and buy it. Don't let our words of warning hold you back. Statistically speaking, you're not very likely to become another "Dell statistic"... >.>



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Where are you doing your shopping? Become intimately familiar with newegg.com when buying individual parts.

I already have a Dell, and geuss what, it works wonderfully. The so called low low end parts in it are actually from good manufacturers with good reputations. I bought it a couple of months ago. It has the same specs as the 639 dollar deal.

I also already know of newegg. They have good deals as well. but the deals don't compare to these ones. For 639 dollars on newegg, you'd have to get a mid range Core 2 Duo, but this deal right here gives you an i7 for the same price. It is just impossible to build the same thing buy hand from newegg. I remember rap making a build on newegg and it came to like 1000 and it had similar specs as this, except this is a lot cheaper.

It's also a little phase hobby that I have. I like looking around at the different price ranges on computers and parts and stuff like that. I just started getting into it about a month ago.