Anandtech benchmarks and tests new Nvidia Geforce4s'

**fivefeet8** · February 7th, 2002

http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1583

Hmm.. So it seems the higher performance Geforce4s is the NV25.. Time to start saving up money for that Geforce4 4600.. hehe.. $399!!

E-double · February 8th, 2002

i hope the geforce 3s drop in price GEforce 3ti200 or 500 will be good enough for me for a while!!!

Ali · February 9th, 2002

Geforce 4!....I just bought Geforce 2MX!

**Shiori** · February 9th, 2002

I just did too, but I don't feel like I'm missing out on a lot of things yet. Then again, all I do is just 2D gaming.

**Demigod** · February 9th, 2002

If prices of the GeForce 3 Ti 200 drop significantly then I might consider it. My GF2 is still pretty fast but it doesn't have pixel shaders, and I wanna see what those nature scenes in 3DMark2001 look like. The GF4 is just a faster version of the GF3 (no new features) and the only expectations I have of them are price drops of previous products.

**Kane** · February 9th, 2002

ca-wrong!
The Ge4 has an added vertex shading unit.
I'm not buying a new GPU till the 5 comes out... in fact, I probs won't buy anything new for my pc for about a year or so

**fivefeet8** · February 9th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Demigod79
If prices of the GeForce 3 Ti 200 drop significantly then I might consider it. My GF2 is still pretty fast but it doesn't have pixel shaders, and I wanna see what those nature scenes in 3DMark2001 look like. The GF4 is just a faster version of the GF3 (no new features) and the only expectations I have of them are price drops of previous products.

According to the article:

2 vertex shaders instead of 1 in the Geforce3
Lightning memory architechture II - Quad Cache
Improved Visibility subsytem - HSR
Acuview AA(anti aliasing) 4X and 4XS
And yes it's noticeably faster than the Geforce3's..
Check the benchmarks on the next gen games coming soon.. UT2!! Comparisons of Geforce3's against the New Geforce4's..

Quote from the Article:

We owe quite a bit to the late 3dfx, including some of the very first introductions to the world of true 3D gaming on our PCs. One thing that we most definitely have to "thank" 3dfx for is exposing us to anti-aliasing. After 3dfx demonstrated their VSA-100 architecture running current generation (at the time) games with FSAA enabled, we were spoiled for life.

That's how I am now too.. FSAA spoiled me.. hehe.. And the Geforce3 FSAA features has problems with epsxe..

Hopefully the Geforce4's wont..

Genius_GZA · February 9th, 2002

I **** on NVIDIA!!On my GeForce 2 too!!!

I'll buy ATI Radeon 8500 , for me it's more complicated than GeForce 4!!And also supports TRUETYPE and that's really cool thing!!Maybe Ge Force 4 is fater but Radeon is more interesting
And it has a cool logo

!!

Genius_GZA · February 9th, 2002

Overview

Designed and built by ATI Technologies Inc.
Groundbreaking 3D gaming and graphics for your PC
Now with more memory: 128MB DDR for lightning-fast performance
Features TRUFORM™, SMARTSHADER™, SMOOTHVISION™ and HYPER Z™ II technologies for advanced graphics performance
Dual monitor and video output support
Digital flat panel support

Features

Groundbreaking graphics performance
Powered by ATI’s latest and most powerful RADEON™ 8500 GPU
128MB DDR memory provides lightning-fast 3D graphics
Features TRUFORM™ technology to make characters and objects more rounded and natural
HYPER Z™ II technology conserves memory bandwidth for improved performance in demanding applications
SMOOTHVISION™, ATI’s most advanced anti-aliasing, eliminates distracting visual artifacts for smoother looking images
High resolution 32-bit 3D gaming up to 2048x1536
Most advanced visual effects
SMARTSHADER™ technology takes advantage of the DirectX® 8.1 features to enable more complex and realistic lighting effects
Support for DirectX® 8.1 and OpenGL® 1.3 applications
CHARISMA ENGINE™ II supports Transformation, Clipping and Lighting (T&L) at 68.7 million triangles/second peak processing capability
PIXEL TAPESTRY™ II, 3D rendering engine, powers an incredible 2.4 gigatexels/second for high fill rates in 32-bit at high resolutions
Dual monitor support and DVD playback
Leading-edge HYDRAVISION™ technology supports traditional CRT monitors, flat panel displays and TVs
VIDEO IMMERSION™ II technology enables integration of industry-leading digital video features, including advanced de-interlacing algorithms for unprecedented video quality
Connect to digital flat panel to enjoy crisper images and true flat screen, significantly reduce eyestrain and save space on your desk
Use video-out to connect your PC to TV or VCR for recording

System requirements

Intel® Pentium® 4/III/II/Celeron™, AMD® K6/Athlon™/Duron™ or compatible with AGP 2.0 Compliant - AGP 2X (3.3V), AGP 4X (1.5V), or AGP2X/4X universal slot
64MB of system memory
Installation software requires CD-ROM drive
DVD playback requires DVD drive
Graphics controller
RADEON™ 8500 graphics processing unit (GPU)

Memory configuration
128MB of double data rate memory

Operating systems support
Windows® XP
Windows® 2000
Windows® Me
Windows® 98/98SE

Monitor support

CRT Monitor: 15-pin VGA connector
TV and VCR: s-video or composite dongle
DVI-I (flat panel display) adapter

Display support

Register compatible with VGA
BIOS compatible with VESA for super VGA
DDC1/2b/2b+ monitor support
VESA Display Power Management Support
Separate horizontal and vertical synchronization at TTL levels

Features
TRUFORM™
SMARTSHADER™
DirectX® 8.1 support
OpenGL® 1.3 support
SMOOTHVISION™ anti-aliasing
HYPER Z™ II
CHARISMA ENGINE™ II
PIXEL TAPESTRY™ II
VIDEO IMMERSION™ II
High Performance Memory Support
Dual Display Support
Integrated Transformation, Clipping and Lighting
Twin Cache Architecture
SuperScalar Rendering
Single-Pass Multi-texturing
True Color Rendering
Triangle Setup Engine
Texture Cache
Bilinear/Trilinear Filtering
Line & Edge Anti-aliasing
Full-Screen Anti-aliasing
Texture Compositing
Texture Decompression
Specular Highlights
Perspectively Correct Texture Mapping
Mip-Mapping
Z-buffering and Double-buffering
Emboss, Dot Product 3 and Environment bump mapping
Spherical, Dual-Paraboloid and Cubic environment mapping
Fog effects, texture lighting, video textures, reflections, shadows, spotlights, LOD biasing and texture morphing

**Zephon** · February 10th, 2002

I just can't believe NVidia made a great GF4 Ti, but such a poor GF4 MX. It doesn't even have pixel and vertex shader!!!

**liquid** · February 10th, 2002

too bad about the GF4MX (NV17) - it should have really been called a geforce 2.5

Omegainf · July 10th, 2002

Damn! Now that my GF2 is dead I was willing to get a GF4MX but now I see that it's not worth it

The only problem is that the prices here in Brazil are WAAAAAY too high

GF4Ti: 535USD
GF3Ti: 303USD
GF4MX: 171USD

**ammoQ** · July 10th, 2002

Never buy a graphics card. You will always loose, since the year after it´s cheaper, faster and/or obsolete.

Goku7 · July 11th, 2002

Then, how exactly are we supposed to see stuff on the monitor?

**ammoQ** · July 11th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Goku7
Then, how exactly are we supposed to see stuff on the monitor?

Try to get an old one for free from someone who did not listen and buys a new graphics card

OmniDistortion · July 11th, 2002

haha wrong move...I just bought my Geforce 3 Ti 200 a month ago... $81! and it plays everything it needs to...its a year old and its good enough for anything out for...well at least 1.5 years and I play many things that are new as well as things that are old or outdated...just dont waste money/time/power/old skool gaming!

February 7th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
fivefeet8 &-)---\|--< Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Smallville Posts: 7,582	Anandtech benchmarks and tests new Nvidia Geforce4s' http://www.anandtech.com/video/showdoc.html?i=1583 Hmm.. So it seems the higher performance Geforce4s is the NV25.. Time to start saving up money for that Geforce4 4600.. hehe.. $399!! __________________ Play emulated games online Main Rig\|\|Intel Q6600@3.2 ghertz\|4x1gb DDR2 1066\|Asrock 1600sli 110db LGA 775\|EVGA 8800gtx@620/1450/975\|2x Seagate 160gb SATA150 Raid0\|250 gb Samsung SATA2 HD\|Seagate 7000.10 500gb HD\|NEC 3520 4x/8x DVD+R/RW DL burner\|Antec TP 650 watt\|40" Sony Bravia 1080p\|20.1" 5ms LCD 1680x1050 Native\|Logitec 5.1 Speaker System w/15" Sub\|Dual Boot Winows XP Pro/Vista 64bit\|\| 2nd Rig\|\|Athlon64 x2 3800+\|2x1 gig PC3200\|BFG Geforce 6800 Ultra OC @450/1250 agp\|60 gig Maxtor IDE HD 7200 RPM\|40 gig Maxtor IDE HD\|Asrock Dual SATA2\|Silver Aluminum ATX\|17" LCD\|\| 3rd Rig\|\|Athlon Xp 2800+\|1.5 gig PC2700\|BFG GeforceFx 5900 Ultra OC agp\|100 gig Maxtor SATA HD\|NF7-s rev2.0\|Nvidia Soundstorm MCP\|19" CRT\|\| Last edited by fivefeet8; February 7th, 2002 at 18:28.

February 9th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
Ali CoLD InSiDE Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Somewhere Posts: 2,613	Geforce 4!....I just bought Geforce 2MX! __________________ AMD Athlon XP 2100 @ 1.75 Ghz Gigabyte GA-7VA.XP VIA K400 1.25GB PC3200 System Ram ChainTech GeForCe4 TI 4200 128MB Creative SB Live! 5.1 2x WD Caviar 120GBs and -Rom1 Maxtor 40GB LiteON 16x DVD-Rw WindowsXP Professional-SP2 & Mandrake Linux

February 9th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
Shiori :3 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Seoul, South Korea Posts: 10,116	I just did too, but I don't feel like I'm missing out on a lot of things yet. Then again, all I do is just 2D gaming. __________________ "...And when I finally meet you again, I want to ask you - have you found what you were looking for? Because that's what I felt you were doing, all these years. And I want to hear you answer, "Yes, I have, thank you for asking," and we'll be together again, until the end of our days..."

February 9th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	If prices of the GeForce 3 Ti 200 drop significantly then I might consider it. My GF2 is still pretty fast but it doesn't have pixel shaders, and I wanna see what those nature scenes in 3DMark2001 look like. The GF4 is just a faster version of the GF3 (no new features) and the only expectations I have of them are price drops of previous products. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

February 9th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
Kane 邪魔ゎ指せない Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Gosport, England Posts: 26,255	ca-wrong! The Ge4 has an added vertex shading unit. I'm not buying a new GPU till the 5 comes out... in fact, I probs won't buy anything new for my pc for about a year or so __________________ >Site Live< Pop over to my site for help with setting up PSX emulators. Help for the Final Fantasies and other RPGs avalaible Celes: (Desktop) Athlon 64 X2 4200+, 2Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, MSI K8N Platinum, GeForce 8800 GTS 320Mb, 500Gb RAID HDD, Vista Business Erika: (MCPC) Athlon XP 2400+, 1Gb 400MHz DDR Ram, geForce 6800 256Mb, 80Gb Hdd, XP 2005 MCE Kimiko: (Desktop 2) Athlon 64 3000+, 512Mb 400MHz DDR Ram, Asus K8V, geForce 6800 128Mb

February 8th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
E-double Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: under some snow Posts: 97	i hope the geforce 3s drop in price GEforce 3ti200 or 500 will be good enough for me for a while!!!

February 9th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
Genius_GZA GameCube Player! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Shaolin Temple , The Tibet Mountains Posts: 1,187	More Radeon 8500 specs Overview Designed and built by ATI Technologies Inc. Groundbreaking 3D gaming and graphics for your PC Now with more memory: 128MB DDR for lightning-fast performance Features TRUFORM™, SMARTSHADER™, SMOOTHVISION™ and HYPER Z™ II technologies for advanced graphics performance Dual monitor and video output support Digital flat panel support Features Groundbreaking graphics performance Powered by ATI’s latest and most powerful RADEON™ 8500 GPU 128MB DDR memory provides lightning-fast 3D graphics Features TRUFORM™ technology to make characters and objects more rounded and natural HYPER Z™ II technology conserves memory bandwidth for improved performance in demanding applications SMOOTHVISION™, ATI’s most advanced anti-aliasing, eliminates distracting visual artifacts for smoother looking images High resolution 32-bit 3D gaming up to 2048x1536 Most advanced visual effects SMARTSHADER™ technology takes advantage of the DirectX® 8.1 features to enable more complex and realistic lighting effects Support for DirectX® 8.1 and OpenGL® 1.3 applications CHARISMA ENGINE™ II supports Transformation, Clipping and Lighting (T&L) at 68.7 million triangles/second peak processing capability PIXEL TAPESTRY™ II, 3D rendering engine, powers an incredible 2.4 gigatexels/second for high fill rates in 32-bit at high resolutions Dual monitor support and DVD playback Leading-edge HYDRAVISION™ technology supports traditional CRT monitors, flat panel displays and TVs VIDEO IMMERSION™ II technology enables integration of industry-leading digital video features, including advanced de-interlacing algorithms for unprecedented video quality Connect to digital flat panel to enjoy crisper images and true flat screen, significantly reduce eyestrain and save space on your desk Use video-out to connect your PC to TV or VCR for recording System requirements Intel® Pentium® 4/III/II/Celeron™, AMD® K6/Athlon™/Duron™ or compatible with AGP 2.0 Compliant - AGP 2X (3.3V), AGP 4X (1.5V), or AGP2X/4X universal slot 64MB of system memory Installation software requires CD-ROM drive DVD playback requires DVD drive Graphics controller RADEON™ 8500 graphics processing unit (GPU) Memory configuration 128MB of double data rate memory Operating systems support Windows® XP Windows® 2000 Windows® Me Windows® 98/98SE Monitor support CRT Monitor: 15-pin VGA connector TV and VCR: s-video or composite dongle DVI-I (flat panel display) adapter Display support Register compatible with VGA BIOS compatible with VESA for super VGA DDC1/2b/2b+ monitor support VESA Display Power Management Support Separate horizontal and vertical synchronization at TTL levels Features TRUFORM™ SMARTSHADER™ DirectX® 8.1 support OpenGL® 1.3 support SMOOTHVISION™ anti-aliasing HYPER Z™ II CHARISMA ENGINE™ II PIXEL TAPESTRY™ II VIDEO IMMERSION™ II High Performance Memory Support Dual Display Support Integrated Transformation, Clipping and Lighting Twin Cache Architecture SuperScalar Rendering Single-Pass Multi-texturing True Color Rendering Triangle Setup Engine Texture Cache Bilinear/Trilinear Filtering Line & Edge Anti-aliasing Full-Screen Anti-aliasing Texture Compositing Texture Decompression Specular Highlights Perspectively Correct Texture Mapping Mip-Mapping Z-buffering and Double-buffering Emboss, Dot Product 3 and Environment bump mapping Spherical, Dual-Paraboloid and Cubic environment mapping Fog effects, texture lighting, video textures, reflections, shadows, spotlights, LOD biasing and texture morphing __________________ My Specs: Intel Core 2 Duo E6600@3.0GHz, GeForce 8800GTS 512MB[ForceWare 178.13], 4GB DDR2 5300 RAM, Audiotrak Prodigy 7.1 HiFi, Windows XP Professional Service Pack 3

February 10th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
Zephon Key To The Universe Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Stratosphere Posts: 2,706	I just can't believe NVidia made a great GF4 Ti, but such a poor GF4 MX. It doesn't even have pixel and vertex shader!!! __________________ But there is someone who remembers you Someone waiting for a sign that leads the way to you There is someone who will die for you Keep that in mind when the hope fails

February 10th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
liquid Ebichu! Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Tampa Bay, Florida Posts: 2,089	too bad about the GF4MX (NV17) - it should have really been called a geforce 2.5

July 10th, 2002	#12 (permalink)
Omegainf Penadinho Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Rio de Janeiro Posts: 2,565	Damn! Now that my GF2 is dead I was willing to get a GF4MX but now I see that it's not worth it The only problem is that the prices here in Brazil are WAAAAAY too high GF4Ti: 535USD GF3Ti: 303USD GF4MX: 171USD __________________

July 10th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
ammoQ Emu author Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Vienna/Austria/Europe Posts: 1,168	Never buy a graphics card. You will always loose, since the year after it´s cheaper, faster and/or obsolete. __________________ If you think my English is bad, wait till you read my Polish.

July 11th, 2002	#14 (permalink)
Goku7 Diehard 3Dfx Fanboy! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Kicking Kuja's ass, all with the power of 3Dfx!! Posts: 544	Then, how exactly are we supposed to see stuff on the monitor? __________________ A 233Mhz CPU. Its not just slow, its a CURSE!!

July 11th, 2002	#16 (permalink)
OmniDistortion Deep Dish Pie! Join Date: May 2002 Location: You know...you guys need to put a limit here just in case someone keeps going on and on about where they live or something stupid like how this space has no limit. Posts: 608	haha wrong move...I just bought my Geforce 3 Ti 200 a month ago... $81! and it plays everything it needs to...its a year old and its good enough for anything out for...well at least 1.5 years and I play many things that are new as well as things that are old or outdated...just dont waste money/time/power/old skool gaming!

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