Video cards with TV-out...

Jomama2001 · February 5th, 2002

I have 3 questions.

1. I'm still planning on upgrading my video card to an ATI Radeon SDR 32MB PCI with TV-out. I play a lot of Snes games on my computer but I'm planning on playing it on my TV when I get my new video card. The card has S-video out so If I use S-Video connection to connect my video card to my TV, would the image quality be good on my tv or ****ty? Anyone that has a video card with TV-out, could you give me your opinion about the picture quality?

2. My CPU's temperature is like 65'C is that safe or is it dangerously high?

3. Should I upgrade to an ATI Radeon SDR 32MB PCI, or a GeForce 2 MX200? I rather get the ATI Radeon because of the TV-out feature, but I'm still thinking about the image quality if I connect it to my T.V.

**Snake785** · February 5th, 2002

I think that if you use S-video instead of composite video,the picture quality will be better but I'm not sure since I don't have any TVs with S-video. My geforce 2 MX has TV-out and the quality is pretty good, in my opinion.

ahtze · February 7th, 2002

wat is composite video means ? If i use TV-Out, izzit the dislay in TV will be very ugly ??

How to plug the S-out to TV ? Got cable like tat sell in Shops ??

**Demigod** · February 7th, 2002

1. Displaying graphics on a TV monitor usually results in better image quality (compared to monitor), but you might have problems displaying text. It'll be perfect for playing SNES games though.

2. It's rather high. You should try to keep it below 50 celcius at least. Get a better CPU heatsink/fan or put in some case fans.

3. I would trust ATI cards for video-out. They're generally known to have better support for that kind of thing. Plus ATI cards have an overall better image quality compared to Nvidia cards.

**Snake785** · February 7th, 2002

Composite video means that it uses normal RCA cables to connect to the TV. For example to connect a psx to your TV you will need to use the RCA cables to connect it to the TV unless you have the thing that uses cable to connect it to your TV(sorry I forgot the name of it).

If your TV has S-Video In and your vid card has S-Video Out then you can plug your computer to your TV. I think S-Video has better (sharper?) quality than Composite video. Since My TV doesn't have S-video in, I can't be sure how the difference of quality is. Can someone post differences between S-Video and Composite plz? Thanx!

Connecting your computer to your TV will make the display more blurry because TVs blur the image. So, one of the only reasons to use Tv-out is to play games on a bigger display. You could use your TV for normal computing but you would have to set the font bigger to see the text clearly and since the font is bigger it will be like using your computer in 640x480 which, in my opinion is way too big.

JAZ · February 7th, 2002

I have a Radeon64ddr vivo card and the tv output through the s-video is very good.
I use it mainly for playing older emulators like snes/genisis as they look lots better on the tv,allthough pc games look great through it as well.
To be honest after using it I'd never buy a vid card with out the tv out option ever again.
I'd say go for it as you wont be disapointed allthough if you can afford it get a ddr version of that radeon.

ahtze · February 7th, 2002

Wat resoulution u put in TV mode ? Mine just only can 800x 640 why ??

JAZ · February 7th, 2002

I think you have to use the native resolution of your TV.
Mines 800x600 so thats the highest resolution I can use.
I can use higher resolutions but then I have to scroll the picture on the tv which aint practicle.

FireGL · February 7th, 2002

you mean 800x600 and 640x480???

well mine too

ahtze · February 8th, 2002

On TV just can put resolution not bigger than 800 x 600 ???

ebola · February 8th, 2002

I just got a dvd drive and was watching dvds on my tv through my radeon 7500. works pretty damn sweet.

get a radeon 7500 oem for $100. thats what i did. only difference between my oem and retail is that my oem only has one monitor output and the retail has two.

ahtze · February 8th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by ebola
I just got a dvd drive and was watching dvds on my tv through my radeon 7500. works pretty damn sweet.

get a radeon 7500 oem for $100. thats what i did. only difference between my oem and retail is that my oem only has one monitor output and the retail has two.

Wat resolution do u put ?

ebola · February 8th, 2002

I had to use 800x600 because my tv kind of sucks and can't do hd.

ahtze · February 9th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by ebola
I had to use 800x600 because my tv kind of sucks and can't do hd.

same here. no doubt

Jomama2001 · February 9th, 2002

Thanks for the details. Now, I'm getting it for sure! I have like 20 SNES rpgs on my computer I really wanted to play but never did because I thought playing SNES games on a monitor was awkward. I don't know about you guys but I love playing games on TV rather than a monitor. Feels nice to just sit back on a comfy couch not using a keyboard and instead, playing it with a PSX controller (I'm gonna get that PSX>PC connector). Besides, the video card I'm getting is only going to cost me $99cdn!!

ahtze · February 9th, 2002

Quote:

Originally posted by Jomama2001
Thanks for the details. Now, I'm getting it for sure! I have like 20 SNES rpgs on my computer I really wanted to play but never did because I thought playing SNES games on a monitor was awkward. I don't know about you guys but I love playing games on TV rather than a monitor. Feels nice to just sit back on a comfy couch not using a keyboard and instead, playing it with a PSX controller (I'm gonna get that PSX>PC connector). Besides, the video card I'm getting is only going to cost me $99cdn!!

$99cdn ?? cdn = ??
Wat graphic card u are trying to get ? There got good graphic card and poor graphic card, becareful when u want to buy a graphic car, think before buy it.....

Jomama2001 · February 9th, 2002

That's right $99cdn. Well, it's actually $149 but there's a $50 mail-in rebate so that's about the same as $99. Full name of the video card is ATI Radeon SDR 32MB PCI with TV-OUT. From the reviews I read, this video card is better than the GeForce 2 MX200. I've decided to buy this one because the GeForce 2 MX200 doesn't have TV-OUT. Those are the only two type of cards I can choose from since my computer doesn't even have an AGP slot. Besides, I'm not really into playing those 3D intensive games. I usually play stragegy games and those games ran fine on my integrated graphic card. I just hate it because it's having trouble running GTA 2, Black and White, and Fifa 2001! The frame rate I get out of those games is like 20 fps! I doubt I can get the card running at full capabilities because of my CPU but that don't bother me. It should be able to run those games at descent speed, and that's all I care about, that and the TV-OUT feature.

Here's the website. It has a list of all the features this card have.

http://www.ati.com/na/pages/products...n32/index.html

ebola · February 9th, 2002

Jomama2001, seriouly think about an oem radeon 7500. it will wipe the floor with the card your looking at and it will only run about $100 USD. Just make sure you get one with the video out.

Jomama2001 · February 9th, 2002

There was a time when I wanted to get the ATI Radeon 7500 ($249cdn). Unfortunately, there's no PCI version so that card is out of the question since mobo doesn't even have an AGP slot. That's why I only have two choices. Either the ATI Radeon SDR 32MB PCI or the GeForce 2 MX200 PCI.

ahtze · February 10th, 2002

uSING TV for PC is hard to see those words. Very hard to check email. because the text is toio small. CAn't see it properly. I know about changing the text to bigger size, but some cannnot change. Anyone can soft thios problems ?

February 5th, 2002	#1 (permalink)
Jomama2001 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 12	Video cards with TV-out... I have 3 questions. 1. I'm still planning on upgrading my video card to an ATI Radeon SDR 32MB PCI with TV-out. I play a lot of Snes games on my computer but I'm planning on playing it on my TV when I get my new video card. The card has S-video out so If I use S-Video connection to connect my video card to my TV, would the image quality be good on my tv or ***ty? Anyone that has a video card with TV-out, could you give me your opinion about the picture quality? 2. My CPU's temperature is like 65'C is that safe or is it dangerously high? 3. Should I upgrade to an ATI Radeon SDR 32MB PCI, or a GeForce 2 MX200? I rather get the ATI Radeon because of the TV-out feature, but I'm still thinking about the image quality if I connect it to my T.V. Last edited by Jomama2001; February 5th, 2002 at 20:53.*

February 7th, 2002	#3 (permalink)
ahtze Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 245	wat is composite video means ? If i use TV-Out, izzit the dislay in TV will be very ugly ?? How to plug the S-out to TV ? Got cable like tat sell in Shops ?? __________________ My System spec....... AMD Althon XP 1600+ 40.4GB Maxtor Harddisk 256 MB DDR RAM Geforce 2 MX 400 64MB TV-OUT Sound Blaster Live Value My website address: www.angelfire.com/games4/ahtze It is about Final Fantasy VII

February 7th, 2002	#4 (permalink)
Demigod これはバタスです Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada Posts: 5,811	Re: Video cards with TV-out... 1. Displaying graphics on a TV monitor usually results in better image quality (compared to monitor), but you might have problems displaying text. It'll be perfect for playing SNES games though. 2. It's rather high. You should try to keep it below 50 celcius at least. Get a better CPU heatsink/fan or put in some case fans. 3. I would trust ATI cards for video-out. They're generally known to have better support for that kind of thing. Plus ATI cards have an overall better image quality compared to Nvidia cards. __________________ CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 2.66 Ghz (Yorkfield) Mobo: Intel DX48BT2 Memory: 2048 MB PC10600 DDR3 Videocard: PNY Geforce 9800 GX2 PCIe w/ 1024 MB GDDR3 Soundcard: On-board SigmaTel High Definition Audio Hard drive: 300 MB Maxtor & 1 TB Hitachi Optical drive: LG GGW-H20L (2x BD-R DL) OS: Microsoft Windows Vista (32-bit)

February 7th, 2002	#7 (permalink)
ahtze Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 245	Wat resoulution u put in TV mode ? Mine just only can 800x 640 why ?? __________________ My System spec....... AMD Althon XP 1600+ 40.4GB Maxtor Harddisk 256 MB DDR RAM Geforce 2 MX 400 64MB TV-OUT Sound Blaster Live Value My website address: www.angelfire.com/games4/ahtze It is about Final Fantasy VII

February 7th, 2002	#9 (permalink)
FireGL I'm? Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: ======> Posts: 1,842	you mean 800x600 and 640x480??? well mine too __________________ Open your eyes and look within... Are you satisfied with the life your livin'?

February 5th, 2002	#2 (permalink)
Snake785 Prepare for Descent... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 2,615	I think that if you use S-video instead of composite video,the picture quality will be better but I'm not sure since I don't have any TVs with S-video. My geforce 2 MX has TV-out and the quality is pretty good, in my opinion.

February 7th, 2002	#5 (permalink)
Snake785 Prepare for Descent... Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Canada Posts: 2,615	Composite video means that it uses normal RCA cables to connect to the TV. For example to connect a psx to your TV you will need to use the RCA cables to connect it to the TV unless you have the thing that uses cable to connect it to your TV(sorry I forgot the name of it). If your TV has S-Video In and your vid card has S-Video Out then you can plug your computer to your TV. I think S-Video has better (sharper?) quality than Composite video. Since My TV doesn't have S-video in, I can't be sure how the difference of quality is. Can someone post differences between S-Video and Composite plz? Thanx! Connecting your computer to your TV will make the display more blurry because TVs blur the image. So, one of the only reasons to use Tv-out is to play games on a bigger display. You could use your TV for normal computing but you would have to set the font bigger to see the text clearly and since the font is bigger it will be like using your computer in 640x480 which, in my opinion is way too big.

February 7th, 2002	#6 (permalink)
JAZ Nintendo Zealot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,424	I have a Radeon64ddr vivo card and the tv output through the s-video is very good. I use it mainly for playing older emulators like snes/genisis as they look lots better on the tv,allthough pc games look great through it as well. To be honest after using it I'd never buy a vid card with out the tv out option ever again. I'd say go for it as you wont be disapointed allthough if you can afford it get a ddr version of that radeon.

February 7th, 2002	#8 (permalink)
JAZ Nintendo Zealot Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: UK Posts: 1,424	I think you have to use the native resolution of your TV. Mines 800x600 so thats the highest resolution I can use. I can use higher resolutions but then I have to scroll the picture on the tv which aint practicle.

February 8th, 2002	#10 (permalink)
ahtze Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 245	On TV just can put resolution not bigger than 800 x 600 ??? __________________ My System spec....... AMD Althon XP 1600+ 40.4GB Maxtor Harddisk 256 MB DDR RAM Geforce 2 MX 400 64MB TV-OUT Sound Blaster Live Value My website address: www.angelfire.com/games4/ahtze It is about Final Fantasy VII

February 8th, 2002	#11 (permalink)
ebola Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chanhassen, MN Posts: 900	I just got a dvd drive and was watching dvds on my tv through my radeon 7500. works pretty damn sweet. get a radeon 7500 oem for $100. thats what i did. only difference between my oem and retail is that my oem only has one monitor output and the retail has two.

February 8th, 2002	#13 (permalink)
ebola Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chanhassen, MN Posts: 900	I had to use 800x600 because my tv kind of sucks and can't do hd.

February 9th, 2002	#15 (permalink)
Jomama2001 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 12	Thanks for info Thanks for the details. Now, I'm getting it for sure! I have like 20 SNES rpgs on my computer I really wanted to play but never did because I thought playing SNES games on a monitor was awkward. I don't know about you guys but I love playing games on TV rather than a monitor. Feels nice to just sit back on a comfy couch not using a keyboard and instead, playing it with a PSX controller (I'm gonna get that PSX>PC connector). Besides, the video card I'm getting is only going to cost me $99cdn!!

February 9th, 2002	#17 (permalink)
Jomama2001 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 12	I read good reviews about it That's right $99cdn. Well, it's actually $149 but there's a $50 mail-in rebate so that's about the same as $99. Full name of the video card is ATI Radeon SDR 32MB PCI with TV-OUT. From the reviews I read, this video card is better than the GeForce 2 MX200. I've decided to buy this one because the GeForce 2 MX200 doesn't have TV-OUT. Those are the only two type of cards I can choose from since my computer doesn't even have an AGP slot. Besides, I'm not really into playing those 3D intensive games. I usually play stragegy games and those games ran fine on my integrated graphic card. I just hate it because it's having trouble running GTA 2, Black and White, and Fifa 2001! The frame rate I get out of those games is like 20 fps! I doubt I can get the card running at full capabilities because of my CPU but that don't bother me. It should be able to run those games at descent speed, and that's all I care about, that and the TV-OUT feature. Here's the website. It has a list of all the features this card have. http://www.ati.com/na/pages/products...n32/index.html

February 9th, 2002	#18 (permalink)
ebola Registered User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Chanhassen, MN Posts: 900	Jomama2001, seriouly think about an oem radeon 7500. it will wipe the floor with the card your looking at and it will only run about $100 USD. Just make sure you get one with the video out.

February 9th, 2002	#19 (permalink)
Jomama2001 Registered User Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 12	I was gonna.... There was a time when I wanted to get the ATI Radeon 7500 ($249cdn). Unfortunately, there's no PCI version so that card is out of the question since mobo doesn't even have an AGP slot. That's why I only have two choices. Either the ATI Radeon SDR 32MB PCI or the GeForce 2 MX200 PCI.

February 10th, 2002	#20 (permalink)
ahtze Registered User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Malaysia Posts: 245	uSING TV for PC is hard to see those words. Very hard to check email. because the text is toio small. CAn't see it properly. I know about changing the text to bigger size, but some cannnot change. Anyone can soft thios problems ? __________________ My System spec....... AMD Althon XP 1600+ 40.4GB Maxtor Harddisk 256 MB DDR RAM Geforce 2 MX 400 64MB TV-OUT Sound Blaster Live Value My website address: www.angelfire.com/games4/ahtze It is about Final Fantasy VII

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