ATi vs Nvidia 2008 - Page 7

xXStrikeFreedom · January 28th, 2009

They have dominance in both but more d3d than opengl. OpenGL has been hobbled by politics and infighting.

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Lord Zedeck · January 28th, 2009

Ungh, other way around. It's OpenGL that nVidia is known for being strong in, not Direct3D. nVidia has traditionally had strong showings in OpenGL, and while it's not true anymore (they trade blows), ATi has traditionally had the advantage in Direct3D. This was especially the case in the old Radeon 9x00 and GeForce FX days. Likewise, ATi has attempted to pick up it's OpenGL support.

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dimentionalrift · January 28th, 2009

There ain't much point in this discussion.
You carefully study your options and then go for the best thing you're able to squeeze into your budget, it's as simple as that.
When the official benchmarks showed that the Geforce 8800GTX was so far ahead of anything ATI coud've put on the table, I went with the 8800GTX.
When those same benchmarks showed that the only way a Geforce GTX280 could win against a Radeon HD4870X2 was if you added another GTX280, I went for the HD4870X2.
When Nvidia releases the GTX3xx series and ATI releases it's HD58xx series we will see which of the two has the most bang for the buck.
So you see, fans on both sides are just wasting time and energy trying endlessly to come up with new ways to discredit their counterparts.

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xXStrikeFreedom · January 28th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by dimentionalrift

There ain't much point in this discussion.
You carefully study your options and then go for the best thing you're able to squeeze into your budget, it's as simple as that.
When the official benchmarks showed that the Geforce 8800GTX was so far ahead of anything ATI coud've put on the table, I went with the 8800GTX.
When those same benchmarks showed that the only way a Geforce GTX280 could win against a Radeon HD4870X2 was if you added another GTX280, I went for the HD4870X2.
When Nvidia releases the GTX3xx series and ATI releases it's HD58xx series we will see which of the two has the most bang for the buck.
So you see, fans on both sides are just wasting time and energy trying endlessly to come up with new ways to discredit their counterparts.

That works too, I guess.

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dimentionalrift · January 28th, 2009

I'm an ordinary guy, and so far I can't say that I regreted any purchase I've made, so I believe that this line of thinking might save a lot of people money and headaches.

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cyberfish · February 2nd, 2009

NVIDIA, because ATI's Linux driver is far inferior.

For me it's not even about performance. ATI forces me to use NVIDIA.

raksmey1309 · February 2nd, 2009

nVidia recently pawn ATI with GTX 295.

Phil · February 2nd, 2009

Cant wait for the GTX295 to go down in price

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LoneWolf · March 15th, 2009

Newegg.com - XFX PVT88PYDF4 GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

Should i consider this one over a HD 4850

Phil · March 15th, 2009

They both preform about the same

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · March 15th, 2009

What do you have at the moment?

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LoneWolf · March 15th, 2009

Im going to build a new one i like Ati for some reason and im getting HD 4850 for it because it MRP Rs.11000 but im getting it for Rs.8500 or something like that from a shop
and the offer can be trusted

xXStrikeFreedom · March 15th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevinWolf

Newegg.com - XFX PVT88PYDF4 GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards

Should i consider this one over a HD 4850

The 8800GT has been pwned by the 9800GTX. 4850 >= 9800GTX

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Gameman · March 15th, 2009

9800 GTX+OC owns the road...at least for price and performance....

Can do Crysis decently and PCSX2 Emulation......

All ATI has that it can offer is GDDR5.....

Besides, looks like Nvidia is winning.....

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LoneWolf · March 16th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gameman

9800 GTX+OC owns the road...at least for price and performance....

Can do Crysis decently and PCSX2 Emulation......

All ATI has that it can offer is GDDR5.....

Besides, looks like Nvidia is winning.....

Its GDDR5 better than GDDR3

Squall-Leonhart · March 16th, 2009

All GDDR5 has going for it is the ability to use higher clocks. Eve then the clocks need to be 2.5x that of DDR3 to reach the same level of performance from DDR3 on a 512bit bus.

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Phil · March 16th, 2009

GDDR5 is a selling gimmick, nothing more

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Gameman · March 16th, 2009

GDDR5 is fine, but you don't start to begin to start to see it unless you buy ATI's Two Highest Models.... (4870 & 4870X2 )

Now if they had bothered to put it on the Radeon 4850 or the 4830, THEN it might own the 9800 GTX, and the 9800 GTX+, but otherwise forget it...

Ain't gonna happen...

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Phil · March 16th, 2009

A 4850 will never "own" a 9800gtx....they are rather equal

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LoneWolf · March 16th, 2009

I clearly understand your point guys

thanks for telling me what was right

well ive changed my mind to buy this babe

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814130384

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January 28th, 2009	#121 (permalink)
xXStrikeFreedom Registered User Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Wales Posts: 29	They have dominance in both but more d3d than opengl. OpenGL has been hobbled by politics and infighting. __________________ Current specs: Intel(R) Core(TM) 2 Duo CPU E7200 @ 2.53GHz 2.53GHz\| RAM: 3GB \| GPU: EVGA NVIDIA 9800 GTX \| ATI RADEON HD 4850 \| XFX NVIDIA GTX 280 (gift) Last edited by xXStrikeFreedom; January 28th, 2009 at 06:46..

January 28th, 2009	#122 (permalink)
Lord Zedeck Registered User Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,804	Ungh, other way around. It's OpenGL that nVidia is known for being strong in, not Direct3D. nVidia has traditionally had strong showings in OpenGL, and while it's not true anymore (they trade blows), ATi has traditionally had the advantage in Direct3D. This was especially the case in the old Radeon 9x00 and GeForce FX days. Likewise, ATi has attempted to pick up it's OpenGL support. __________________ "Without forgiveness, life is governed by an endless cycle of resentment and retaliation." "Judge people not of their mistakes, but on how they handle those mistakes." Core 2 Duo E8600 @4.0GHz- ASUS Maximus Formula (Rampage Formula BIOS 0701) - 8GB (4x 2GB) Corsair XMS2 DDR2 800 MSI nVidia GeForce 8800GT 512MB - 4x Western Digital Caviar SE16 6400AAKS (2,560GB total) - PC Power & Cooling Silencer 610 IBM P275 21" CRT (1600x1200 @100Hz) - Logitech Z-2300 2.1 Sound System - Windows XP SP3 & Windows 7 64-bit

January 28th, 2009	#123 (permalink)
dimentionalrift Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Israel Posts: 544	There ain't much point in this discussion. You carefully study your options and then go for the best thing you're able to squeeze into your budget, it's as simple as that. When the official benchmarks showed that the Geforce 8800GTX was so far ahead of anything ATI coud've put on the table, I went with the 8800GTX. When those same benchmarks showed that the only way a Geforce GTX280 could win against a Radeon HD4870X2 was if you added another GTX280, I went for the HD4870X2. When Nvidia releases the GTX3xx series and ATI releases it's HD58xx series we will see which of the two has the most bang for the buck. So you see, fans on both sides are just wasting time and energy trying endlessly to come up with new ways to discredit their counterparts. __________________ Step right up! Step right up everyone! Whether you're good or bad, happy or sad! Whether you're an emmotional wreck, or a blissful speck in this blackhole of an existence we call life! Step right up and witness something you will be soon to never forget! Feast your ears on the most deafening sounds of nature to ever be heard! Built for you by the master of...

January 28th, 2009	#125 (permalink)
dimentionalrift Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Israel Posts: 544	I'm an ordinary guy, and so far I can't say that I regreted any purchase I've made, so I believe that this line of thinking might save a lot of people money and headaches. __________________ Step right up! Step right up everyone! Whether you're good or bad, happy or sad! Whether you're an emmotional wreck, or a blissful speck in this blackhole of an existence we call life! Step right up and witness something you will be soon to never forget! Feast your ears on the most deafening sounds of nature to ever be heard! Built for you by the master of...

February 2nd, 2009	#126 (permalink)
cyberfish Registered User Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 143	NVIDIA, because ATI's Linux driver is far inferior. For me it's not even about performance. ATI forces me to use NVIDIA.

February 2nd, 2009	#127 (permalink)
raksmey1309 Away Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Kingdom of Cambodia Posts: 2,277	nVidia recently pawn ATI with GTX 295.

February 2nd, 2009	#128 (permalink)
Phil Regular User ;) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Naples Florida Posts: 9,964	Cant wait for the GTX295 to go down in price __________________ A Mac is like an escort, you pay a ton and get nothing. A PC is like a hooker, it's a lot cheaper and gives you what you're after.. and if unlucky some diseases as well, that's why you gotta use protection. -CC

March 15th, 2009	#129 (permalink)
LoneWolf she's my cherry pie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Why do you want to know ? Posts: 1,255	Newegg.com - XFX PVT88PYDF4 GeForce 8800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Supported Video Card - Desktop Graphics / Video Cards Should i consider this one over a HD 4850

March 15th, 2009	#130 (permalink)
Phil Regular User ;) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Naples Florida Posts: 9,964	They both preform about the same __________________ A Mac is like an escort, you pay a ton and get nothing. A PC is like a hooker, it's a lot cheaper and gives you what you're after.. and if unlucky some diseases as well, that's why you gotta use protection. -CC

March 15th, 2009	#131 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,327	What do you have at the moment? __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

March 15th, 2009	#132 (permalink)
LoneWolf she's my cherry pie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Why do you want to know ? Posts: 1,255	Im going to build a new one i like Ati for some reason and im getting HD 4850 for it because it MRP Rs.11000 but im getting it for Rs.8500 or something like that from a shop and the offer can be trusted

March 15th, 2009	#134 (permalink)
Gameman Professional OC'er Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	9800 GTX+OC owns the road...at least for price and performance.... Can do Crysis decently and PCSX2 Emulation...... All ATI has that it can offer is GDDR5..... Besides, looks like Nvidia is winning..... __________________ I am the man that rules the world!!!!!!!!! - Sid Vicious E8600 Core 2 Duo Wolfdale 3.33GHZ @ 4.22 SUPER-Hertz!!!!!! Rampage Formula X48 R.O.G. Motherboard 2 GB Dominator Ram 1066 5-5-5-15 (2T) @ 1066 Mhz Stock Nvidia GTS 250 OC/9800GTX+OC 512 GDDR3 @ 813 MHZ ++OC 2nd Build E2160 Pentium Dual Core CPU @ 1.8 GHZ @ 3.40 SUPER-Hertz!!!! 2 GB Dominator 1066 @ 800 5-5-5-18 2T 1:1 DFI LanParty X48 T2RSB Plus Motherboard Radeon 3650 512 GDDR2 @ 860/550 MHZ OC Last edited by Gameman; March 15th, 2009 at 23:57..

March 16th, 2009	#136 (permalink)
Squall-Leonhart Behind ur girlfriend :D Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 18,843	All GDDR5 has going for it is the ability to use higher clocks. Eve then the clocks need to be 2.5x that of DDR3 to reach the same level of performance from DDR3 on a 512bit bus. __________________ VBA-M \| Xtemu \| NGOHQ \| Post Impact Productions \| TNHW \| XBCD 0.2.6 \| Satanic666's Emulator Compiles Don't be a NOOB, READ THE NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct Need Help with ePSXe? This is your first stop!. If you don't post all the required information, you don't get help. Everytime someone posts a romsite, God kills a beautiful woman.

March 16th, 2009	#137 (permalink)
Phil Regular User ;) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Naples Florida Posts: 9,964	GDDR5 is a selling gimmick, nothing more __________________ A Mac is like an escort, you pay a ton and get nothing. A PC is like a hooker, it's a lot cheaper and gives you what you're after.. and if unlucky some diseases as well, that's why you gotta use protection. -CC

March 16th, 2009	#138 (permalink)
Gameman Professional OC'er Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Houston Posts: 1,391	GDDR5 is fine, but you don't start to begin to start to see it unless you buy ATI's Two Highest Models.... (4870 & 4870X2 ) Now if they had bothered to put it on the Radeon 4850 or the 4830, THEN it might own the 9800 GTX, and the 9800 GTX+, but otherwise forget it... Ain't gonna happen... __________________ I am the man that rules the world!!!!!!!!! - Sid Vicious E8600 Core 2 Duo Wolfdale 3.33GHZ @ 4.22 SUPER-Hertz!!!!!! Rampage Formula X48 R.O.G. Motherboard 2 GB Dominator Ram 1066 5-5-5-15 (2T) @ 1066 Mhz Stock Nvidia GTS 250 OC/9800GTX+OC 512 GDDR3 @ 813 MHZ ++OC 2nd Build E2160 Pentium Dual Core CPU @ 1.8 GHZ @ 3.40 SUPER-Hertz!!!! 2 GB Dominator 1066 @ 800 5-5-5-18 2T 1:1 DFI LanParty X48 T2RSB Plus Motherboard Radeon 3650 512 GDDR2 @ 860/550 MHZ OC

March 16th, 2009	#139 (permalink)
Phil Regular User ;) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Naples Florida Posts: 9,964	A 4850 will never "own" a 9800gtx....they are rather equal __________________ A Mac is like an escort, you pay a ton and get nothing. A PC is like a hooker, it's a lot cheaper and gives you what you're after.. and if unlucky some diseases as well, that's why you gotta use protection. -CC

March 16th, 2009	#140 (permalink)
LoneWolf she's my cherry pie Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Why do you want to know ? Posts: 1,255	I clearly understand your point guys thanks for telling me what was right well ive changed my mind to buy this babe http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16814130384