ATi vs Nvidia 2008

[Phil]

i hear the cackling already..

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[saint_geser]

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

I vote for nVidia... even though I own a HD4870. Reason:
- CUDA
- PhysX
- Proper OpenGL!
- Proper GSDX performance!
- And if I'm in for some suicide runs, a single GTX 260 overclocked can break 20K in 3DMark06. ;p
- Low fan noise compared to HD48xx series.

No way! GTX 260/280 sounds like a helicopter taking off! 260 though is a little better, but nothing in comparison to 4xxx series

This year i'd go for ATI. Many of their releases impressed me a lot.

[runawayprisoner]

Originally Posted by saint_geser

No way! GTX 260/280 sounds like a helicopter taking off! 260 though is a little better, but nothing in comparison to 4xxx series

Clearly you've never cranked the fan of a 4850 up to 50%.

And the 4870 is even worse... it starts sounding like waves at sea when the fan is at 40%, but it runs relatively cool compared to 4850.

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[makotech222]

doesnt seem louder than my 9800gtx, the gtx260 that is.

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[runawayprisoner]

I know. And the HD4870 is really loud at fan settings above 40%.

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[Phil]

Ati is winning....

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[womzi]

i have 2gb ram
250gb harddisk
amd athlon64x2 4600+
ati radeon hd 4850
asus motherboard
still pcsx2 does not work
starts in beggining giving 20fps
then it starts declining
i cant paly the game at all due to destructions

plz help me

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[gamefreak94]

I find that hard to believe, I got 15 fps on Bully with my old P4, it was only a:

Compaq Evo D510C with:
2.53 GHz Northwood P4
512 MB RAM
Inno3D GeForce FX 5500 (256 MB) @ stock

I never tried playing FFX, but I think I would have got 20 fps or more with it. Speaking of games, check your game against the compatibility list on the website, if its rated as 'Intro' or 'menus', then no PC in the world can help with that! Also, check your configuration and make sure it is correct.

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[runawayprisoner]

This is to scare Phil. ;p



That was all stock, my friend. Now I wonder what would happen if I... put on an Accelero S1, two 100CFM fans, and... mmm... maybe up the voltage a bit?

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[Xblade]

Originally Posted by womzi

i have 2gb ram
250gb harddisk
amd athlon64x2 4600+
ati radeon hd 4850
asus motherboard
still pcsx2 does not work
starts in beggining giving 20fps
then it starts declining
i cant paly the game at all due to destructions

plz help me

Not that this is the right section but if you had looked at the guide on the official pcsx2.net site then you'd know why. Go in configure>cpu and enable all the check boxes you see.

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the PS3 needs to be a little more slimer??? the way I see it , its as big as a laptop lol
i remember psp slime was more slimey

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[Phil]

Rap.......you solicitous hustler. im odering a new mobo...

And im starting a second build called......you guessed it, GaMu 2 Rap edition

(but theres no way im using a ****** emachines case for this build

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[runawayprisoner]

Tough luck? Cuz I'm using the eMachines case. ;p But I think I'm backing the Q9450 down to 3.2GHz, and... I'll be waiting for when someone may want to buy it... or do a trade. Probably... a E8400 plus $120, or E8500 plus $100, or the Q9450 for $250. ;p

P.S.: Just goes to show you how cool this HD4870 runs, eh?

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[CrysisFX]

ATI for me, i love my 8800m gts laptop for games but for a price to preformace comparison the 4870 seems to blow away the gtx 280. at this given time i would estimate that drivers are only utilizing 75% of the 4870. not only that but ati support 4 card crossfire. even tho id never use 4 cards, if i was to build an insane gaming rigs for brags i would go ati. besides amds spider platform gets ddr3 speeds out of ddr2 and amd quad cors for 200 bux vs intels 1k$

[Lord Zedeck]

Originally Posted by gamefreak94

I find that hard to believe, I got 15 fps on Bully with my old P4, it was only a:

Compaq Evo D510C with:
2.53 GHz Northwood P4
512 MB RAM
Inno3D GeForce FX 5500 (256 MB) @ stock

I never tried playing FFX, but I think I would have got 20 fps or more with it. Speaking of games, check your game against the compatibility list on the website, if its rated as 'Intro' or 'menus', then no PC in the world can help with that! Also, check your configuration and make sure it is correct.

I'd say that's doubtful. After my old PC died and I got my current one, I got a replacement motherboard and CPU for the old one, and it was a Pentium 4 2.8GHz (HT, and 800MHz FSB versus the 533 of yours, and with the Pentium 4, the FSB mattered quite a bit), and a 6800GS AGP modified as an Ultra. With Final Fantasy X, it got 15-20FPS. Yours would probably get 10-15FPS.

Anyhow, on topic, I'm going to say ATi this time around. However, I'm still satisfied with my 8800GT, and the jump wouldn't be big enough, so I'll pass this round. There's another reason too. Noise and temperatures are something I look more at rather than just performance and price. The specific 8800GT I have has an aftermarket cooler by default, so it runs both cool and quiet (as in, silent idle or load and never above ~60C), and I've sort of become addicted in looking for both in video cards now. The ATI cards seem good and cheap, but run loud and/or hot, or so I hear. My old 8600GTS has a fan that runs full speed all the time (also an aftermarket one by default from MSI), and it's unbearably loud.

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[Cid Highwind]

Originally Posted by runawayprisoner

I know. And the HD4870 is really loud at fan settings above 40%.

Thankfully you don't need to go higher than 32% in order to have acceptable temperatures for a GPU. Unless you want to go for killer clocks...

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[runawayprisoner]

Yeah... and on another note, seems like the only real benefit of having PCI-E 2.0 for this card thus far... is just to have AA 8x with very minimal performance hit.

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[MrPink]

Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

Thankfully you don't need to go higher than 32% in order to have acceptable temperatures for a GPU. Unless you want to go for killer clocks...

What are acceptable temps for a video card? My 8800gtx idles at 44C after being on all day...after intense sessions of Mass Effect or any other game I don't break 60C (i have fan speed at 100% and an antec 900 with all fans on high). Should i try OC'ing it?

edit: in the winter i get sub 40C idle temps

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[runawayprisoner]

It depends on the GPU, but normally... loading at 80C is acceptable. Though we won't need to tell you that you'll need better cooling for other components.

For instance... the HD4870 is making my CPU idle at 55C (no joke), but on maximum load, the CPU does not exceed 65C, which is perfectly acceptable.

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[GamjaPotato]

Always been a fan of nvidia, although recent cards from ati are better...

[runawayprisoner]

Better is an understatement?

Windows Server 2008 w/ Crysis Vanilla (1.00) 1280 x 1024 DX10 all High no AA no AF



Broke 60fps!! Averaging at at least 45fps, and at most 50fps!

P.S.: Seems like Crysis is finally playable under Server 2008. Kudos to Microsoft for finally doing it right!!



CPU bench results. That's just plainly amazing. Not such a drastic performance drop at all. Going to install 1.21 patch now.

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