ATi vs Nvidia 2008 - Page 19

Squall-Leonhart · April 27th, 2009

"HDMI devices are manufactured to adhere to various versions of the specification, where each version is given a number such as 1.0, 1.2, or 1.3a.[15] Each subsequent version of the specification uses the same kind of cable but increases the bandwidth and/or capabilities of what can be transmitted over the cable.[15] For example the previous maximum pixel clock rate of HDMI interface was 165 MHz which was sufficient for supporting 1080p at 60 Hz and WUXGA (1920×1200) at 60 Hz. HDMI 1.3 increased that to 340 MHz which allows for higher resolution, such as WQXGA (2560x1600), across a single digital link.[16] A HDMI connection can either be single link (Type A/C) or dual link (Type B) and can have a video pixel rate of 25 MHz to 340 MHz for a single link connection or 25 MHz to 680 MHz for a dual link connection. Video formats with rates below 25 MHz (e.g., 13.5 MHz for 480i/NTSC) are transmitted using a pixel-repetition scheme.[1]"

Both apparently.

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dimentionalrift · May 2nd, 2009

Me again...

Just read something I didn't know - apperantely the two cores I have on my HD4870X2 have not one but two internal connections, each with 10GiBs of bandwidth.
What surprised me was that with the latest driver version (9.4) only one of those connections is operational due to several interface problems...
Thing is that it actually raises a pretty good question - have we really witnessed the full potential of the ATI heavy-weight champion?

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Squall-Leonhart · May 2nd, 2009

only until their drivers work better (never)

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P_RePTiLe · May 2nd, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squall-Leonhart

only until their drivers work better (never)

Yeah, ati drivers are very bloody cumbersome.
One of the crap things being reliance on .net for the configuration-thingie's *shudders*

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skoreanime · May 2nd, 2009

Fudzilla - Geforce GTX 285 to be made available for Macs

One of my Apple fanatic friends cried tears of joy when I emailed this to him.

Squall-Leonhart · May 2nd, 2009

now you should link him to the GT300 rumours and make him die again.

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**Cid Highwind** · May 4th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by P_RePTiLe

Yeah, ati drivers are very bloody cumbersome.
One of the crap things being reliance on .net for the configuration-thingie's *shudders*

Alternatively you could go with ATi Tray Tools and just the drivers, and forfeit the CCC altogether.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · May 4th, 2009

gonna need ATItool as well though so that you can control that nasty fan speed.

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**Cid Highwind** · May 4th, 2009

Not really, unless you want advanced speed. But in CCC you can perfectly set the fanspeed with every profile. Of course, it did take them some time to implement it for the 4870 from what I remember.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · May 4th, 2009

But you just offered an alternative to running an ATI card without CCC?

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Dax · May 4th, 2009

.Net's not that bad..if you upgrade to Windows 7 when it comes out, you'll have .net 3.5, which is quite decent, and will be able to run a lot of programs for a long time. >.> [/offtopic]

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Gossamer · May 4th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

Alternatively you could go with ATi Tray Tools and just the drivers, and forfeit the CCC altogether.

Last I checked, Tray tools was great but didn't work for Vista x64.
I'm waiting for that little issue to be... resolved.

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Squall-Leonhart · May 4th, 2009

Nhancer 2.5 is built using .net 3.5

ITS FAST. way faster then what 2.0 was.

I think Vista SP2 installs .net 3.5 as well....

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Dax · May 4th, 2009

Indeed. 3.5 is nice.

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**Cid Highwind** · May 4th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by SCHUMI_4EVER

But you just offered an alternative to running an ATI card without CCC?

Sure, you can set the fanspeed in ATi Tray Tools as well. Why would you need CCC? The only reason why I have it installed is laziness and the fact that I like their video converter.

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Squall-Leonhart · May 4th, 2009

Nvidia driver + Rivatuner + Nhancer

ATI Tool for video card overclock stress testing.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · May 4th, 2009

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cid Highwind

Sure, you can set the fanspeed in ATi Tray Tools as well. Why would you need CCC? The only reason why I have it installed is laziness and the fact that I like their video converter.

It can control the fan? when was that feature added? cuz I looked and looked but never saw such an option so I had to resort to using ATITool to raise the deafult fan speed from it's ridiculous 5% on my X850XT.

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**Cid Highwind** · May 4th, 2009

I'm talking about ATi Tray Tools, a different app than ATiTool, with many more options.

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**SCHUMI_4EVER** · May 4th, 2009

I said I had to resort to using ATITool cuz I could not find anything...and by not find anything I meant I could not find anything in ATI Tray Tools, I ran both apps on my old system, but ATITool was the only one that allowed me fan control.

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skoreanime · May 28th, 2009

Nvidias ION platform seems to be gaining momentum now. Might get one to get that HTPC I've been wanting for awhile now

/hands rap some tissues

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April 27th, 2009	#361 (permalink)
Squall-Leonhart Behind ur girlfriend :D Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 18,932	"HDMI devices are manufactured to adhere to various versions of the specification, where each version is given a number such as 1.0, 1.2, or 1.3a.[15] Each subsequent version of the specification uses the same kind of cable but increases the bandwidth and/or capabilities of what can be transmitted over the cable.[15] For example the previous maximum pixel clock rate of HDMI interface was 165 MHz which was sufficient for supporting 1080p at 60 Hz and WUXGA (1920×1200) at 60 Hz. HDMI 1.3 increased that to 340 MHz which allows for higher resolution, such as WQXGA (2560x1600), across a single digital link.[16] A HDMI connection can either be single link (Type A/C) or dual link (Type B) and can have a video pixel rate of 25 MHz to 340 MHz for a single link connection or 25 MHz to 680 MHz for a dual link connection. Video formats with rates below 25 MHz (e.g., 13.5 MHz for 480i/NTSC) are transmitted using a pixel-repetition scheme.[1]" Both apparently. __________________ VBA-M \| Xtemu \| NGOHQ \| Post Impact Productions \| TNHW \| XBCD 0.2.6 \| Satanic666's Emulator Compiles Don't be a NOOB, READ THE NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct Need Help with ePSXe? This is your first stop!. If you don't post all the required information, you don't get help. Everytime someone posts a romsite, God kills a beautiful woman.

May 2nd, 2009	#362 (permalink)
dimentionalrift Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Israel Posts: 544	Me again... Just read something I didn't know - apperantely the two cores I have on my HD4870X2 have not one but two internal connections, each with 10GiBs of bandwidth. What surprised me was that with the latest driver version (9.4) only one of those connections is operational due to several interface problems... Thing is that it actually raises a pretty good question - have we really witnessed the full potential of the ATI heavy-weight champion? __________________ Step right up! Step right up everyone! Whether you're good or bad, happy or sad! Whether you're an emmotional wreck, or a blissful speck in this blackhole of an existence we call life! Step right up and witness something you will be soon to never forget! Feast your ears on the most deafening sounds of nature to ever be heard! Built for you by the master of...

May 2nd, 2009	#363 (permalink)
Squall-Leonhart Behind ur girlfriend :D Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 18,932	only until their drivers work better (never) __________________ VBA-M \| Xtemu \| NGOHQ \| Post Impact Productions \| TNHW \| XBCD 0.2.6 \| Satanic666's Emulator Compiles Don't be a NOOB, READ THE NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct Need Help with ePSXe? This is your first stop!. If you don't post all the required information, you don't get help. Everytime someone posts a romsite, God kills a beautiful woman.

May 2nd, 2009	#365 (permalink)
skoreanime Your resident reaper... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 6,031	Fudzilla - Geforce GTX 285 to be made available for Macs One of my Apple fanatic friends cried tears of joy when I emailed this to him.

May 2nd, 2009	#366 (permalink)
Squall-Leonhart Behind ur girlfriend :D Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 18,932	now you should link him to the GT300 rumours and make him die again. __________________ VBA-M \| Xtemu \| NGOHQ \| Post Impact Productions \| TNHW \| XBCD 0.2.6 \| Satanic666's Emulator Compiles Don't be a NOOB, READ THE NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct Need Help with ePSXe? This is your first stop!. If you don't post all the required information, you don't get help. Everytime someone posts a romsite, God kills a beautiful woman.

May 4th, 2009	#368 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,351	gonna need ATItool as well though so that you can control that nasty fan speed. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

May 4th, 2009	#369 (permalink)
Cid Highwind Human Metal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Holland / Hungary Posts: 13,550	Not really, unless you want advanced speed. But in CCC you can perfectly set the fanspeed with every profile. Of course, it did take them some time to implement it for the 4870 from what I remember. __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz GPU: Sapphire ATi HD4870 / 1024MB / Core: 801 / Mem: 1000 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 (rev 2.1) SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music RAM: 2GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 @ 4-4-4-12 ~ 800MHz HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, 32MB PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Geometry Wars: 198.400 Lumines: 999.999 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

May 4th, 2009	#370 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,351	But you just offered an alternative to running an ATI card without CCC? __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

May 4th, 2009	#371 (permalink)
Dax ライチュウ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 3,292	.Net's not that bad..if you upgrade to Windows 7 when it comes out, you'll have .net 3.5, which is quite decent, and will be able to run a lot of programs for a long time. >.> [/offtopic] __________________ My PC Specs\|My Consoles\|Emu SVNs\|Project OSX\|How to ask a Question

May 4th, 2009	#373 (permalink)
Squall-Leonhart Behind ur girlfriend :D Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 18,932	Nhancer 2.5 is built using .net 3.5 ITS FAST. way faster then what 2.0 was. I think Vista SP2 installs .net 3.5 as well.... __________________ VBA-M \| Xtemu \| NGOHQ \| Post Impact Productions \| TNHW \| XBCD 0.2.6 \| Satanic666's Emulator Compiles Don't be a NOOB, READ THE NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct Need Help with ePSXe? This is your first stop!. If you don't post all the required information, you don't get help. Everytime someone posts a romsite, God kills a beautiful woman.

May 4th, 2009	#374 (permalink)
Dax ライチュウ Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: USA Posts: 3,292	Indeed. 3.5 is nice. __________________ My PC Specs\|My Consoles\|Emu SVNs\|Project OSX\|How to ask a Question

May 4th, 2009	#376 (permalink)
Squall-Leonhart Behind ur girlfriend :D Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Sydney, Australia Posts: 18,932	Nvidia driver + Rivatuner + Nhancer ATI Tool for video card overclock stress testing. __________________ VBA-M \| Xtemu \| NGOHQ \| Post Impact Productions \| TNHW \| XBCD 0.2.6 \| Satanic666's Emulator Compiles Don't be a NOOB, READ THE NGEmu/EmuForums Rules of Conduct Need Help with ePSXe? This is your first stop!. If you don't post all the required information, you don't get help. Everytime someone posts a romsite, God kills a beautiful woman.

May 4th, 2009	#378 (permalink)
Cid Highwind Human Metal Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Holland / Hungary Posts: 13,550	I'm talking about ATi Tray Tools, a different app than ATiTool, with many more options. __________________ PC Specs: CPU: Intel Q8200 @ 2.8GHz GPU: Sapphire ATi HD4870 / 1024MB / Core: 801 / Mem: 1000 Mobo: Gigabyte EP35-DS3 (rev 2.1) SPU: Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music RAM: 2GB Kingston HyperX DDR2 1066 @ 4-4-4-12 ~ 800MHz HDD: 1TB Samsung Spinpoint, 32MB PSU: Hiper Type-R 580W Monitor: Iiyama B2403WS / 19201200 Geometry Wars: 198.400 Lumines: 999.999 Join the NGEmu Folding @ Home community NOW!*

May 4th, 2009	#379 (permalink)
SCHUMI_4EVER Hackin 'n Slashin Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Corrupt Rapist run South Africa Posts: 11,351	I said I had to resort to using ATITool cuz I could not find anything...and by not find anything I meant I could not find anything in ATI Tray Tools, I ran both apps on my old system, but ATITool was the only one that allowed me fan control. __________________ Intel Core2Quad Q9550 (2.83Ghz stock) \| ASUS P5Q \| 2x2GB Transcend JetRam DDR2-800 \| ASUS ENGTX260\HDTP\896M \| Windows Vista Home Premium 64bit SP1 The Champ has retired but may his Legacy live on FOREVER !!!! No$GBA DS FAQ 2.0 Get it right fools! The glass is HALF-EMPTY, not half-full!!! !!! WARNING: Emulation requires a brain !!! WARNING: Emulation =/= Piracy !!!

May 28th, 2009	#380 (permalink)
skoreanime Your resident reaper... Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 6,031	Nvidias ION platform seems to be gaining momentum now. Might get one to get that HTPC I've been wanting for awhile now /hands rap some tissues