ATi vs Nvidia 2008

[Phil]

The price war will always benefit us consumers

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[runawayprisoner]

Apparently, a few of us don't seem to be aware of this, so... let me introduce HD4750.

Radeon HD 4750 RV740 review | preview |test

Price war? Pfft... that's price rape by ATi!! $100 for a card that can do 8x MSAA and goes almost as fast as a HD4850 is so crazy it's unbelievable.

I can almost see the whites of those at nVidia as they read that article...

Just for fun, there's 9600GT results in the article as well, and 9600GT only goes as low as $80 currently. That's already with rebates.

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[skoreanime]

Very spiffy. I remember reading up on this one on Fudzilla one day. I remember them saying it was going to be a good price/performance ratio...but damn.

This seriously takes the cake Wonder how it does in CrossFire...

[runawayprisoner]

Crossfire a pair of these and overclocking them may yield... incredible results. I think you can expect no less than HD4850X2 performance, which is to say... almost at GTX 285, for less than $200!

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[Phil]

This is getting ridiculous. Companies throwing in new cards every week, confusing price schemes, incredible rivalry, bad tech support.....



HECK YEAH, IM ALL FOR IT!!!!!

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[skoreanime]

Now it would perfect if a dark horse just jumped into the fray.

[Phil]

Larrabee perhaps??

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[LoneWolf]

or a new company comes up which pawns both Ati and nvidia in every thing

[Gossamer]

Originally Posted by DevinWolf

or a new company comes up which pawns both Ati and nvidia in every thing

I doubt that; The company would need extreme amounts of revenue just to stay afloat if it were to attempt the production load that ATI and Nvidia has.

They are already rooted as companies; with factories, employees and testers. Making an entire new company would mean the prices would be higher.

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[Phil]

It would be nearly suicidal for a new company to stay afloat in the gpu wars

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[LoneWolf]

but what if it is from a company like microsoft or google ?????

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

They would have the dough, but they don't have the infrastructure or the expertise being software giants rather than hardware giants.

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[Phil]

Or need really. MS for one would run head long into anti trust laws

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[skoreanime]

Microsoft and Google have no intention of fraying into the hardware market either. Their whole company is built around making software to run those hardware

I can see Intel jumping into the fray, as they have the resources to do so if they please. But they're definitely going to have to come out with something half decent first. Maybe a technology that will give bonuses if paired with an Intel chipset motherboard?...

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

software running hardware? I think you have that backwards skore

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[skoreanime]

It's the whole chicken and egg theory

I like to think of electronics like the yin and yang. They have to compliment each other to have synergy

[runawayprisoner]

So... are graphics cards built to comply with DirectX and OpenGL standards, plus game standards, or are DirectX and OpenGL libraries, or to put it in another context, games, built to comply with graphics card standards?

I think you already knew the answer...

There's no such thing as the chicken and egg theory in the computer industry. 0 comes before 1. Plain and simple. ;p

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[skoreanime]

The hardware guys are always pushing the software peeps, I won't deny that.

I just meant software is just as important as the hardware aspect.

And technically I'm right. What good is a video card if there's not driver for it ?

[SCHUMI_4EVER]

You missed his point skore. He was saying I am wrong, because graphics cards are built to comply with DirectX and OpenGL rather than the other way round.

However...in the case of OS's, usually it's the hardware pushing the OS, need to accept more RAM, need raise the limits for HDD recognition, need to raise the limits of CPU core recognition.

Games also whilst they push the hardware are built to at least try and comply with the hardware...what good would it be making a game and saying screw the hardware, it's gonna have to catch up?...well to know answer to that question you need to ask people over at Crytek, Bethesda or Rockstar...

The one complements the other, but it's the software that has to take into consideration the hardware, not the other way round, thus the hardware runs the show.

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[skoreanime]

In most cases, yes.

However, faulty hardware does come out time to time. Think the R600

But I'll agree the hardware runs the show, but the show can't go on without the stage backhands and that's the software part. Wow, I just said a wicked analogy, didn't I ?